Microsoft releases KB 4091290, a fix for the Win7/Server 2008R2 SCARD_E_NO_SERVICE bug

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Coming soon to Windows Update. KB 4091290 – This update addresses a known issue previously called out in KB4075211 where the LSM.EXE process and appli
[See the full post at: Microsoft releases KB 4091290, a fix for the Win7/Server 2008R2 SCARD_E_NO_SERVICE bug]

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!!! Yep and Group B DO NOT INSTALL !!!

Satya is trying to trick you into installing a full, unwanted spyware loaded Rollup that has been deliberately mis-named and falsely described on Windows and/or Microsoft Update and the Update Catalog to appear as “just” an “Update for Windows 7” that “just” fixes the SCARD_E_NO_SERVICE error issue.

Viper

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Meh, not that I doubt fully doubt that but did you unpack it and see?

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ViperJohn wrote:

!!! Yep and Group B DO NOT INSTALL !!! Satya is trying to trick you into installing a full, unwanted spyware loaded Rollup that has been deliberately mis-named and falsely described on Windows and/or Microsoft Update and the Update Catalog to appear as “just” an “Update for Windows 7” that “just” fixes the SCARD_E_NO_SERVICE error issue. Viper

I wear a tin foil hat at times nowadays but I really, really would like some proof of what you assert in your above statement.

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I think he is either talking about the beta version of the update, or how the tracking junk has been integrated into last cumulative updates. But this isn’t a new thing in the last couple of months so I’m not sure what they are talking about specifically.

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So, I’m guessing that since I have no smart card functionality enabled (as far as I’m aware) on my Win7 x64 machine, there’s no point installing this 235MB update?

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Looks that way: That’s what the Patch Lady says in her post on this very subject.

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I installed  KB4091290 along with it another showed up in the update history but didn`t install.  KB3139914.  Security update for windows 7 x64

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This update is listed on my computer as a Recommended update that is unticked by default.

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And ‘unticked by default’ can be extended to mean, according to established rules…

Since guidlines for GroupB enshrined in AKB2000003 includes:
Step B4: …
Click the links to look at the Important and Optional updates. Don’t check any unchecked boxes. If you see any entries marked “Monthly Quality Rollup,” uncheck the boxes — if you’re in Group B, you don’t want them. For heaven’s sake don’t ever check anything marked “Preview.” …

And likewise GroupA in AKB2000004 under:
Step A2: …
Back in the Control Panel, … follow these steps. Don’t check any unchecked boxes. …

Resulting in this update languishing on offer, uninstalled, until Microsoft rolls it up, or changes the metadata; AND the MSDefcon rises.

” Unless you have an immediate, pressing need to install a specific patch, don’t do it.”

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I installed KB 4091290 on two of my Win7 Machines.

One x86 and other x64.

The update installed Ok on the x86 but not on the x64  machine,

All seemed ok until I tried to use Internet Explorer. Had App Crash everytime started. I used System Restore to remove to update then all Ok again. So KB4091290 might not be ok on x64 Win 7 machines.

I trusted the advice from Susan Bradley.

ie “So if you are on Windows 7 and do not use a smart card to provide an additional two factor authentication into your machine, I would go ahead and install this update.”

Silly me, LOL

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MrBrian wrote:

This update is listed on my computer as a Recommended update that is unticked by default.

So is mine.  234.9 MB.

I have not installed Feb. rollup KB4074598 yet.  Waiting for defcon to go up to 3.
I do not have a smartcard whatever.

Dell Inspiron 660 (purchased in 2013) just replaced hard drive in November 2017 and had Windows 7 reloaded.
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP 1
Server 2008 R2 x64
Processor:  Intel i3-3240 (ivy bridge 3rd generation)
chipset Intel (R) 7 series/C216
chipset family SATA AHCI Controller -1 E02

After new hard drive installed went to

Group A

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I gave KB4091290 a try of install thru win7 update center.

The issues are yet same as reported for KB4075211 (Preview of Monthly Rollup) in my post below as anonymous:

https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/weird-hibernation-state-on-reboot-attributed-to-win7-patches/#post-170220

but both said dwm.exe errors in log and leftovers in taskbar of the already closed windows occurred less frequently than with KB4075211 installed and much less frequently that with its predecessors of 2018.

Anyhow it’s removed & put to hidden list, although it seems there is a slow progress of m$ here, and thus we have a tiny hope on maybe finally some rollup acceptable to be installed in March-April.

Rgds,

P.S. A bit of odd stuff – KB4091290 is listed in Win7 update center as 234.9MB but 234.6MB in m$ catalogue.

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I installed KB 4091290 on two of my Win7 Machines. One x86 and other x64. The update installed Ok on the x86 but not on the x64 machine, All seemed ok until I tried to use Internet Explorer. Had App Crash everytime started. I used System Restore to remove to update then all Ok again. So KB4091290 might not be ok on x64 Win 7 machines. I trusted the advice from Susan Bradley. ie “So if you are on Windows 7 and do not use a smart card to provide an additional two factor authentication into your machine, I would go ahead and install this update.” Silly me, LOL EDIT html to text (copy>paste?)

Do you use Avast? Latest version (18.2) caused IE crash. Now is fixed.

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Robboj wrote:

I installed KB 4091290 on two of my Win7 Machines. One x86 and other x64. The update installed Ok on the x86 but not on the x64 machine, All seemed ok until I tried to use Internet Explorer. Had App Crash everytime started. I used System Restore to remove to update then all Ok again. So KB4091290 might not be ok on x64 Win 7 machines. I trusted the advice from Susan Bradley. ie “So if you are on Windows 7 and do not use a smart card to provide an additional two factor authentication into your machine, I would go ahead and install this update.” Silly me, LOL EDIT html to text (copy>paste?)

Do you use Avast? Latest version (18.2) caused IE crash. Now is fixed.

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No I use AVG.

After reading your post and doing some other research I decided to try and install again on my Win7 64bit machine.

This time the update installed fine, so all good.

The problem seems to be that my machine decided to update AVG program version at the same time as the update was running.

Looks like time that I took Woody’s advice and disabled my anti virus BEFORE updating.

Lesson learned.

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AVG is AVAST, is the same program only GUI is different. Problem was in Behaviour shield, but now is fixed and doesnt matter if you install this patch or not.

https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=216700.0

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So istalled on my Win 7 64 bit without any problem and IE work perfectly.

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For those who didn’t hide KB4075211 (February 2018 Windows preview monthly rollup): Do you see KB4091290 listed when using Windows Update? The reason I ask is because the metadata-supersedence relationship between these two updates seems to be the opposite of Microsoft’s documentation.

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I have not received the “preview”, but I have KB4091290 that showed up recently and unchecked in Windows Update, and is still unchecked. I am not installing this one until I hear more about it.

The other patches I have received are the ones for Office 2010 and the MS Malware Removal Tool; this month’s E11 security only update, I’ve got from the MS Catalogue. I am keeping an open mind about when to install those.

My PC: Windows 7 Pro, x64 with an Intel I7 “sandy bridge” quad processor.

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Thanks to those that responded :).

Here is the behavior that I saw a few days ago on Windows 7 x64: If KB4075211 is hidden, then KB4091290 is listed after the next update check in Windows Update. If KB4075211 is not hidden (assuming not installed either), then KB4091290 is not listed after the next update check in Windows Update. Therefore, if one wants to install KB4091290 via Windows Update, one may have to hide KB4075211 first.

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@Mr.Brian:  I  had KB4075211 appearing in the “Optional Updates”,  unchecked.  I hid it because it was listed as a Preview.

It’s listed as Preview of Monthly Quality Rollup for win 7 for x64 based systems.  I have not checked the Updates after this last check.     Should I have not hidden it?

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It’s fine to hide KB4075211 if you have no intention of installing it. I hid it.

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@Mr.Brian:  Thank you so much for the reply.    Your guidance is sincerely appreciated, as always.  Outstanding!    🙂

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MrBrian wrote:

For those who didn’t hide KB4075211 (February 2018 Windows preview monthly rollup): Do you see KB4091290 listed when using Windows Update? The reason I ask is because the metadata-supersedence relationship between these two updates seems to be the opposite of Microsoft’s documentation.

MrBrian
Before I installed the January rollup (on 2/6/18), I hid the preview you are refering to. After installing the rollup, I then unhid the preview and when Feb. patches came out I did a windows update check. The preview disappeared and Kb4074598 and Windows Malicious Software tools for Feb came up checked.
When I read the post here about KB4091290 popping up in windows update, I did another windows update check and it was there, unchecked.
Not sure if that is what you were looking for.

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Um…this patch is nowhere to be found on my WSUS server so it is impossible to deploy the patch using the same technology as the buggy patch!?!

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@MrBrian says in #172164  just above

If KB4075211 is not hidden (assuming not installed either), then KB4091290 is not listed after the next update check in Windows Update.

So it would seem you should hide KB4075211 then check again

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Is this bug also an issue with the February security only update, besides the rollup and the preview? The problem discussed here seems to affect the monthly rollup, and the preview of next month’s.

Have there been already any serious complaints about the February security only update?

 

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The issue is listed at https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4074587.

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Mr Brian, thanks.

But that link is for a site that has, among other things, a link to another page with the description of a later update, KB4091290 that has a fix for the handle leak bug in the original February Security Only update KB4074587 .

But it is not clear to me if that later update is a Security Only one or a new, improved Monthly Security and Quality Rollup, or a Preview of next month’s S&Q Rollup, or something else, because this detail is not mentioned in that MS site or in the MS Catalog. Sort of: “this is an update of some kind, with the handle leak fixed, take it or leave it” proposal. Being hard Group B myself, I don’t install previews, rollups, or John Doe updates.

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Abbodi86 mentioned previously that KB4091290 can be considered a rollup. The March Windows security-only update might also fix the issue.

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I was afraid of something like that. Missed Abbodi86 posting.

Thanks again.

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February 13, 2018—KB4074587 (Security-only update) no longer lists this issue.

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This ‘fix’ interferes with LibreOffice Calc on my x64 win 7 system – causing it to crash.

I uninstalled it (the kb), and everything works again!

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Replying and unticking seems to be the only way to switch off getting replies by email. So, thanks and goodbye.

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