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    #144087

    Those are the “Patch Thursday” fixes I talked about last week. Microsoft blew it, and now they’re covering their tracks by not only pulling the patche
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    • #144098

      So what about the machines that already got the patches? Microsoft pushes them out, but do they ever rescind those updates? Windows today equals messy updates and patches. Its like they cobble together the OS like a patchwork quilt full of one off squares. Just a ugly mess it is.

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      • #144099

        Precisely.

        Also, what about the people who are installing Security-only patches, get stung, then try to fix the situation by staying on the Security-only “Group B” approach?

        Windows patching has turned into an ugly joke.

        I’m edging closer to that Old Yeller moment.

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        • #144186

          I’m struggling to see the point here. As a longstanding “Group B” adherent, I have yet to “get stung” by any patch. That’s precisely why I stick with the approach. When it stops working for me, I shall consider alternatives – but it’s worked for over two years now.

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      • #144109

        So what about the machines that already got the patches? Microsoft pushes them out, but do they ever rescind those updates?

        Okay. I had a shower and I’m less grumpy now.

        Bottom line: If you got tricked into installing the patches, uninstall them. If you didn’t manually download and install these specific patches, don’t worry about it. Until Microsoft “fixes” things again.

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    • #144108

      I was wondering why the patch notes disappeared.

    • #144143

      Credit where credit is due, Thanks again to Woody, abbodi86 and MrBrian for highlighting this last week. None were installed on our systems.

      Windows - commercial by definition and now function...
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    • #144164

      Microsoft releases buggy patches.  Mysteriously, patches disappear along with KB articles.  Nothing is heard from Redmond.

       

      Big yawn, another patch debacle.  What else is new?

    • #144170

      I’m edging closer to that Old Yeller moment.

      If Windows has lost “Woody” of “Woody on Windows,” the end must be near.

      Someone else made a similar comment the other day about Ed Bott, though it also must be said that neither of you are “lost” yet per se… but to say that MS is trying your patience is probably a bit of an understatement.  As for me, I think I am close to being all out of outrage; when I hear of some other thing happening, I just kind of think that things are going as expected.  But then I am someone who harbors more than a little bit of suspicion that this is not Microsoft’s plans going haywire as much as Microsoft’s plans (to scuttle Windows over time but to monetize it in the short term) going as intended.

      If this is true, then each individual disaster is probably genuinely accidental, but the circumstances that lead to so many disasters taking place (lack of testing, for example) are not.  It’s a dismal way to think, but what other choice is there?  To believe that MS, the company that supposedly has its groove back, has suddenly descended into Keystone-cops slapstick level incompetence when it comes to what used to be its primary product?  I will admit I didn’t read his book, but I have my doubts that Nadella would have written those words if any department within Microsoft was, despite his best efforts, fumbling and bumbling even halfway to the level that would be required to generate this two-year-long-and-no-end-in-sight ongoing trainwreck.

      I’ve lived in Windows-land for more than a quarter of a century, and while it’s been bumpy at times, I’ve always thought I’d rather be here than anywhere else.  I bristled at the “I’m a Mac” commercials, where I found the PC guy charismatic and endearing compared to the hipster doofus slacker Mac characterization.  Windows has at times been a pain in the rump, but it was my pain in the rump.

      Now I’m faced with accepting… this, or else moving on to the only other alternative, which is Linux (or FreeBSD, but I might as well go with the biggest of the OSS bit players).  I’m not going to buy Apple hardware, so unless they start selling OSX as a standalone product (I doubt they’d still call it MacOS then), that’s a no-go, and mobiles are not my thing.  I do like Linux, but I do recognize that it falls short in a lot of areas (though I must also say it is far better than Windows in some others).  I’d like to migrate by choice if there is to be a migration, but it’s more like I am being forced out.

       

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      • #144238

        When well known people (Woody, Ed Bott, Paul Thurrott, etc.) who cover MS and Windows are getting fed up with MS someone very high up in the C-suite should be screaming b***** murder and fix the problems. But the sorry excuses even for a PHB are off in la-la-land and are not listening. When the Windows press seems to talk about this months comedy of errors call patching every month as well as related stupidities it feeds a growing unease with Windows’ future. People do not like change but if they feel they must they will make it; inertia only works for so long.

        It seems that MS is following IBM’s path. IBM was the dominant mainframe supplier for about 40 years. Initially IBM actually tried to meet customer needs but towards the end of the era tended to rely on customer inertia rather than loyalty. MS so has had a run of about 35 years and seem to be relying on inertia not loyalty. The original IBM loyalists got old (hence the 40 years) and retired while the newer generation was not particularly loyal to IBM. They were more receptive to other solutions and did not care if it was by IBM or someone else. Paralleling IBM, the original Windows loyalists are now in the twilight of their careers if not retiring and the new generation is not particularly loyal to Windows.

        Back in IBM’s heyday the line was ‘No one got fired for choosing IBM’ mirrored by the ubiquity of Windows later. Now IBM is just another large, semi-sleazy vendor among many; choose your poison. MS is facing competition from the cloud and renewed competition form other OSes. The cloud poses problems for MS as all it really requires is a good browser with the OS being irrelevant. Other OSes have traction in various segments and variants seem to breaking into Windows’ turf. MS is facing becoming at best another semi-sleazy cloud/SaaS provider among many if they continue on their current path.

    • #144171

      It’s not apparent at this moment exactly when Microsoft pulled the patches

      I noticed them pulled on Friday 🙂

      https://askwoody.com/forums/topic/ms-fixes-external-database-bug-with-patches-that-have-even-more-bugs-kb-4052234-kb-4052235-kb-4052233-kb-4052232-kb-4052231/#post-143709

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    • #144184

      lol so if you’re a poor mook who downloaded these and ended up breaking stuff, you go to look them up to see what the patches contained, what changed and try to find out which broke what, and…you can’t as they removed the KB articles. HAHAHA.

    • #144688

      I recommend that those who installed any of these updates to uninstall them as soon as possible because these are the consequences if you don’t.

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