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    My main desktop dual boots Windows 7 Ultimate and Windows 8.1 Pro. I use 8.1 predominantly, but also keep the Windows 7 side up to date, and there are a couple of programs on that side that don’t run on 8.1. The 8.1 side will be an easy enough upgrade to Windows 10, which I’ll do to take advantage of the free upgrade, but then I’ll make a drive image of 10, and restore my 8.1 drive image for continued use.

    The 7 Ultimate side, however, won’t directly upgrade. It’s carved up and spread over two separate HDD’s (Hybrid Disk Drive), so I’ll have to either put it back together (which can be done) and then upgrade, or upgrade just the 7 Ultimate partition, which will not save apps and settings, and then start re-installing stuff. Either way is a bit of work (there’s a lot of stuff). I have up-to-date drive images of the different partitions that contain 7 Ultimate, so I’m protected either way.

    The third option is to do it both ways, making drive images along the way, then decide which option works best for me. But it’s obvious with the new OS model MS is introducing with Windows 10, an OS upgrade could be released at any time, and a split-up system like I’m running now with 7 Ultimate simply won’t allow for an upgrade installation that keeps everything intact.

    It’s gonna prove interesting, regardless.

    Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
    We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
    We were all once "Average Users".

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    • #1515594

      bbarren,

      Cut Up Windows…Reminds me of the old addage “He who lives by the sword dies by the sword!” or “Death by a Thousand Cuts“. 😆 :cheers:

      May the Forces of good computing be with you!

      RG

      PowerShell & VBA Rule!
      Computer Specs

      • #1515660

        bbearren,

        Cut Up Windows…Reminds me of the old addage “He who lives by the sword dies by the sword!” or “Death by a Thousand Cuts“. 😆 :cheers:

        It’s not quite that bad.:p It’s a bit tedious, but I’ve done it before. There are advantages to the divisions, but the new OS model of Windows 10 kinda makes it obsolete.

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
        We were all once "Average Users".

        • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1515602

      Virtualize W7 and then it’s a no brainer.

      cheers, Paul

      • #1515661

        Virtualize W7 and then it’s a no brainer.

        Doesn’t run as well as it does on metal.

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
        We were all once "Average Users".

        • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1515665

      Does if the metal is good enough!

      cheers, Paul

      • #1515690

        Does if the metal is good enough!

        For me, Windows 10 on a dual core i3 runs better than Windows 10 in a VM on a quad core i5 (both run at 3.2GHz).

        YMMV

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
        We were all once "Average Users".

        • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1516953

      My Windows 7 OS partition is 60 GB with 24GB free, but in the end it was too cramped for the Windows 10 installation, and it aborted. I could move a bunch of stuff around and double the size of that partition, but that would take about as long as it will take to reinstall my programs and utilities, so I’m keepin’ it simple this time. I’m running the install from within Windows, but I’m not keeping anything.

      Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
      We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
      We were all once "Average Users".

      • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1516985

      Got Preview 10162 installed last night, updated, not activated (activation for preview builds no longer works), but wasn’t really concerned about that. There were some updates, etc. that it went through. I managed some personalizations by rebooting and hitting them quick before the “Activate Windows” warning kicked in.

      I left 10162 running overnight, and this morning I installed Revo Uninstaller Pro, Malwarebytes Premium, and Office 2010. It’s preparing to install TH1 Professional 10240, so I’m gonna let that finish before I do anymore installations.

      Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
      We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
      We were all once "Average Users".

      • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1516986

      This is just a curiousity, but I did a “keep nothing” install, which leaves a “Windows.old” folder behind, but saves no settings, etc. So in Edge, I elected to import Favorites from Internet Explorer, and it did. And it’s the right Favorites, Favorites Bar, everything, from my Windows 7 installation. Must have reached into the “Windows.old” bag, I guess.

      And not only are they the correct Favorites, when I click on a link from my Favorites or Favorites Bar, my saved usernames and passwords are pre-loaded for logon. Interesting.

      >>> edit – forgot to mention that it also picked up my background slideshow theme, also, which is composed of my personal photos. /edit <<<

      Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
      We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
      We were all once "Average Users".

      • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1517172

      Windows 10 Pro (10240) is now installed, not yet activated. But in Settings > Windows Update > Advanced options I’m still on the Fast Track for Preview Builds, and there are no restrictions of any kind that I can find. When I click on “Activate Windows” it says my Product Key is no good, and shows the last group of the 10162 Preview Build Product Key. I’m going to assume that it will sort itself out sooner or later. Not really concerned, though, because there’s no watermark, and everything works for now.

      Plenty of piddlin’ left to do, but there’s no rush. The dual boot worked out just as it did on my laptop, still using the same bootmgr and menu, just has Windows 10 as the default at the top of the menu. 8.1 Pro still boots and runs as usual. Since I’m starting fresh, I’m installing my programs and utilities monitored through Revo Uninstaller Pro, which makes an uninstall a breeze. Everything that allows for a selection of installation location is going on another partition on a separate drive, which keeps my OS partition small and image files quick and easy. I’m moving all my user folders the MS approved way through the Location tab in Properties to another partition on another drive, also.

      Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
      We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
      We were all once "Average Users".

      • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1517860

      Long story short, my Windows 7 Ultimate Product Key is now a blocked key. I have no idea when that happened; I have been updating it for about 5 years, including the WGA updates, and it has never failed. Of course, that makes the upgrade to Windows 10 possible as far as installation, but impossible as far as activation. There are some hacks out there that could work, but I like to keep legit, so I decided to forego those. I broke out my PayPal account and bought Windows 10 Pro from the Store for $199.

      That simple transaction made my Windows 10 installation Genuine and Activated. Magic Jelly Beans Key Finder now reports the following (edited):

      Windows 10 Pro
      Product Part No.: [TH]X19-9
      Installed from ‘Full Packaged Product’ media.
      Product ID: xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx match to CD Key data
      CD Key: XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX
      Computer Name: XXXXXXXXX
      Registered Owner: Admin
      Registered Organization:

      From an elevated Command Prompt, slmgr /dlv reports, among other things, “RETAIL channel”. So I guess that makes my Windows 10 Pro a Retail Full Packaged Product installation.

      Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
      We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
      We were all once "Average Users".

      • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1517895

      bbearren,

      That’s some Expensive FREE Update! It will be a cold day you know where before MS gets any money out of me for a FREE upgrade! Win 7 & 8.1 work just fine. :cheers:

      May the Forces of good computing be with you!

      RG

      PowerShell & VBA Rule!
      Computer Specs

    • #1517899

      I can’t disagree with your logic there, RG, but on the flip side, I’ve apparently been running “pirated” software for who knows how long? My Windows 7 Ultimate, it turns out, at some point became no longer legitimate, and ineligible for a free upgrade. I don’t really feel comfortable with the idea of skirting the legalities.

      I may not be the only one…

      Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
      We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
      We were all once "Average Users".

      • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1517901

      bbearren,

      When I have the Windows 7 Hologram DVD and complete package with Key and MS tells me it is not Legitimate … “Houston (or in this case Redmond) we have a problem”…a big one! :cheers:

      May the Forces of good computing be with you!

      RG

      PowerShell & VBA Rule!
      Computer Specs

      • #1518050

        bbearren,

        When I have the Windows 7 Hologram DVD and complete package with Key and MS tells me it is not Legitimate … “Houston (or in this case Redmond) we have a problem”…a big one! :cheers:

        That’s the thing, RG. It was legitimate when I bought it over 5 years ago. At some point in time, the Product Key got blocked by MS. No explanation of why. Got no idea when. And no recourse. It’s Microsoft’s game, they make the rules.

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
        We were all once "Average Users".

        • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
        • #1518063

          And no recourse. It’s Microsoft’s game, they make the rules.

          bbarren,

          It may be their game but it’s my wallet! 😆 If they ever go to a true subscription model I’m off to Linux! As they say “Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me”. I’ll have new computers, that will come with “legitimate” Windows 10, long before support for my current OSes runs out so I’ll just putter along as there is NOTHING in W10 that I NEED! :cheers:

          May the Forces of good computing be with you!

          RG

          PowerShell & VBA Rule!
          Computer Specs

          • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1518022

      @RetiredGeek: I would be interested to know whether or not you eventually get MS Money working under Win 10. When I tested an early version of Win10 TP, Money was found to be incompatible. Some revisions further down the line, however, and it worked just fine; and on the basis of that I decided to “reserve my copy of Windows 10”. (My system has been found “compatible” by the Reserve Win 10 process). My system has not yet been “updated” to Win 10, so I have yet to see what will actually happen. I suppose, if one were prepared to go to the trouble, one could run Win 8.1 in a Virtual Machine under Win 10 in order to have access to Money? (Overkill, perhaps?)

      My Rig: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core CPU; ASUS Cross Hair VIII Formula Mobo; Win 11 Pro (64 bit)-(UEFI-booted); 32GB RAM; 2TB Corsair Force Series MP600 Pro 2TB PCIe Gen 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD. 1TB SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 NVME SSD; MSI GeForce RTX 3090 VENTUS 3X 24G OC; Microsoft 365 Home; Condusiv SSDKeeper Professional; Acronis Cyberprotect, VMWare Workstation Pro V17.5. HP 1TB USB SSD External Backup Drive). Dell G-Sync G3223Q 144Hz Monitor.

    • #1518116

      Right RG, and I don’t really need Windows 10, but knowing my Windows 7 is no longer valid, I have no other viable Windows license for my dual boot. 98 or Win2K won’t run on my hardware, and I want to keep my dual boot.

      Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
      We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
      We were all once "Average Users".

      • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1518130

      bbearren,

      I know you have good backups (Images) so have you tried going back to 7 and see what it reports about being genuine? When My Win 7 Laptop wouldn’t Validate w/10 it was back to 7 via Macrium Reflect and guess what?
      41498-Genuine-Windows-7
      Notice the bottom right corner! :cheers:

      May the Forces of good computing be with you!

      RG

      PowerShell & VBA Rule!
      Computer Specs

      • #1518383

        bbearren,

        I know you have good backups (Images) so have you tried going back to 7 and see what it reports about being genuine? When My Win 7 Laptop wouldn’t Validate w/10 it was back to 7 via Macrium Reflect and guess what?
        41498-Genuine-Windows-7
        Notice the bottom right corner! :cheers:

        Indeed, I do have a pre-upgrade drive image of Windows 7 Ultimate, with all the latest Windows Updates and defragged, and it would no doubt show as Activated. But I still get back to the rub that my Windows 7 Ultimate Product Key is no longer valid; that key has been blocked. I could roll back to Windows 7 Ultimate, but I would have that nagging feeling in the back of my head that I would be running a “pirated” version of Windows. And as I was told via an email exchange with MS Support concerning a client’s PC a couple of years ago, “Activation does not mean validation”.

        OTOH my Inspiron 580, upgraded to Windows 10 Insiders Preview over Windows 7 Professional, now shows via slmgr /dlv that it has a valid license via “Product Key Channel: RETAIL”. On that machine, my Windows 7 Professional license is valid, and the upgrade to Windows 10 is valid, licensed, and activated. I’m quite comfortable with that. I’m not comfortable with the invalid Windows 7 Ultimate license on my main desktop any longer.

        Here in The Lounge we stress the compliance with Windows EULA and discourage the use of hacks to get around validation/activation. And the free upgrade to Windows 10 is for valid Windows 7 SP1/Windows 8.1. I’m keeping Windows 8.1 Pro in my dual boot, and I want to keep my dual boot due to the many advantages on multiple levels of dual booting Windows, so lacking a legal upgrade path (and having a no-longer-legal Windows 7 Ultimate) I opted for the purchase of Window 10 Pro.

        I’ve tried Linux on many occasions, and have a “Live Ubuntu” DVD that I boot from time to time to tinker with, but Linux is just not “my” OS. I’m only semi-retired, and the contract work I do from time to time requires Office (updating Excel files and the like). The Linux Office clone doesn’t cut it in that environment.

        To sum up, I don’t “need” Windows 10 on my main desktop, but I want it there so that I can migrate my “work” environment to Windows 10 over time via my dual boot environment. The “Free” upgrade still works; it just isn’t applicable to unlicensed Windows installations of those appropriate versions. My Windows 7 Ultimate license turns out to be invalid, even though it was activated. Windows 10 Upgrade can’t use it, and I personally can’t use it any longer.

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
        We were all once "Average Users".

        • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
        • #1518386

          Hello, Bruce.

          Quote :”Activation does not mean validation”.

          Getting a stump in semantics here. What is the difference ?

          I still have not found a positive indication that I got W-10 RTM (?) installed here. Besides the new keys, the new name, no RT affixed to Win-10, I also got an update on the 28th that took a long time to complete, Security Update for Windows 10 (KB3074683), that to me seems to indicate that this was it. This new install has not shown the Genuine flag but says it is Activated. Go search !

          Has anybody found a confirmation of this install ? All best wishes. Jean.

          • #1518441

            Hello, Bruce.

            Quote: “Activation does not mean validation”.

            Getting a stump in semantics here. What is the difference ?[/quote]
            Hi Jean. That quote is from a long email exchange I had with MS Support about Windows 7 2 or 3 years ago over an activation issue with a client’s PC. It was explained that there are ways the OS can be hacked so that it will activate on the MS servers even with an invalid Product Key, so “Activation does not mean validation”. Only checking whether the Product Key is valid will actually tell whether the license is valid.

            [Quote]I still have not found a positive indication that I got W-10 RTM (?) installed here. Besides the new keys, the new name, no RT affixed to Win-10, I also got an update on the 28th that took a long time to complete, Security Update for Windows 10 (KB3074683), that to me seems to indicate that this was it. This new install has not shown the Genuine flag but says it is Activated. Go search !

            Has anybody found a confirmation of this install ? All best wishes. Jean.

            Open an elevated Command Prompt, type (without the quotes) “slmgr /dlv” and hit Enter. You’ll get a VBS dialog box with details about the license. If you see “Product Key Channel: RETAIL” that’s a good indicator. It means your license has been validated through the Retail Channel rather than the Insider Preview Channel. And RTM was going to roll out via the Retail Channel.

            Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
            We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
            We were all once "Average Users".

            • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
            • #1518841

              Hi Bear. ( Bruce )
              I did it and it worked. No elevated required.
              OK, I am now satisfied that I got the true OS, I still think that it is 10240 in nicer habits. Thanks for your input and fine instructions, easy to follow for a simple mind.
              All best wishes. Jean.

    • #1518137

      My Windows 7 has the same report as yours but it recently started showing a brief “This copy of Windows is not valid” message with every boot. I also have no Get Windows 10 icon. I have no idea what is going on but my insider copy on the same desktop shows activated Windows 10 at the same build as the one my upgraded laptop has so I plan to use that until it gets blocked.

      Jerry

    • #1518454

      bbearren,

      An interesting aside on this my Dell Laptop Win 7 HP shows the channel as OEM_SLP and my Dell Desktop Win 8.1 Pro (used free 8.1 Pro upgrade from 8.0) shows Retail!

      Also, the Windows Scripting Host was disabled on my 8.1 Pro machine and I had to enable it in the registry…here’s how. :cheers:

      May the Forces of good computing be with you!

      RG

      PowerShell & VBA Rule!
      Computer Specs

    • #1518458

      bbearren

      I really really hope you find the time and sort this out and get use of BOTH licenses, even if it means selling one to someone. MS makes quite enough $$ no need to donate, Maybe wait a while for the help lines to free up. just MHO
      :cheers:

      🍻

      Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
      • #1518752

        bbearren

        I really really hope you find the time and sort this out and get use of BOTH licenses, even if it means selling one to someone. MS makes quite enough $$ no need to donate, Maybe wait a while for the help lines to free up. just MHO
        :cheers:

        Nothing is lost. I have a drive image set I created immediately before I started the Windows 10 installation, so I have the ability to restore Windows 7 Ultimate. Part of the difficulty may have been in the fact that Windows 7 is sliced and diced, so a direct upgrade install was not possible. I had decided to forego the reconstructive surgery and just upgrade without saving anything. I may restore that image and double-check activation on that installation (going through the Microsoft servers for activation which will check the validity of the Product Key buried in the registry), and if that checks out as valid, I could go ahead and do the reconstruction and do an upgrade install that saves settings.

        If that were to be successful, I would then be in possession of a Windows 10 Full Package Retail Product Key that I could use anywhere. OTH if it still came out as an invalid Windows 7 installation, I can live with that, too.

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
        We were all once "Average Users".

        • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
        • #1518976

          Nothing is lost.
          If that were to be successful, I would then be in possession of a Windows 10 Full Package Retail Product Key that I could use anywhere. OTH if it still came out as an invalid Windows 7 installation, I can live with that, too.

          :)::cheers:

          🍻

          Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
          • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
        • #1520145

          Nothing is lost. I have a drive image set I created immediately before I started the Windows 10 installation, so I have the ability to restore Windows 7 Ultimate. Part of the difficulty may have been in the fact that Windows 7 is sliced and diced, so a direct upgrade install was not possible. I had decided to forego the reconstructive surgery and just upgrade without saving anything. I may restore that image and double-check activation on that installation (going through the Microsoft servers for activation which will check the validity of the Product Key buried in the registry), and if that checks out as valid, I could go ahead and do the reconstruction and do an upgrade install that saves settings.

          If that were to be successful, I would then be in possession of a Windows 10 Full Package Retail Product Key that I could use anywhere. OTH if it still came out as an invalid Windows 7 installation, I can live with that, too.

          I’ve made some images in preparation for making some more room for reconstructing my Windows 7 all into one partition. The ISO is downloaded and the Media Creation Tool is loading my USB drive as I type this. I’ll see what I can come up with this time. I’ve already brought ProgramData and Users back to the Windows 7 partition, and that’s in the image file I made before I started.

          After I expand that partition and restore my Windows 7 partition image, I’ll get both Program Files folders back, do all the necessary registry editing, and see if the WX installer is willing to upgrade and save my settings.

          Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
          We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
          We were all once "Average Users".

          • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1518717

      bbarren,

      I have successfully upgraded my Win 7 HP laptop to Win 10 Home (core) and it auto activated! Here’s what slmgr reports:
      41525-W7toW10-License-Status
      :cheers:

      May the Forces of good computing be with you!

      RG

      PowerShell & VBA Rule!
      Computer Specs

      • #1519162

        bbarren,

        I have successfully upgraded my Win 7 HP laptop to Win 10 Home (core) and it auto activated! Here’s what slmgr reports:
        41525-W7toW10-License-Status
        :cheers:

        RG, here’s a CMD string you can run from an elevated Command Prompt that will tell you more than you want to know about activation of your installation:

        Licensingdiag.exe -report %userprofile%desktopreport.txt

        It will put report.txt on your desktop, which will open in Notepad. If by chance you have changed the location of your desktop using the Properties > Location tab, you’ll need to put in the complete path (not %userprofile%) in order for this to work.

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
        We were all once "Average Users".

        • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1519114

      Rearm count 1001? Does that mean you have can extend the trial period of your OS 1001 times before activating it? ie 30 030 days(!!!)

      My Rig: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core CPU; ASUS Cross Hair VIII Formula Mobo; Win 11 Pro (64 bit)-(UEFI-booted); 32GB RAM; 2TB Corsair Force Series MP600 Pro 2TB PCIe Gen 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD. 1TB SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 NVME SSD; MSI GeForce RTX 3090 VENTUS 3X 24G OC; Microsoft 365 Home; Condusiv SSDKeeper Professional; Acronis Cyberprotect, VMWare Workstation Pro V17.5. HP 1TB USB SSD External Backup Drive). Dell G-Sync G3223Q 144Hz Monitor.

      • #1519139

        Rearm count 1001? Does that mean you have can extend the trial period of your OS 1001 times before activating it? ie 30 030 days(!!!)

        If you’re referring to RG’s post and graphic, his Windows 10 is activated. It is not in a trial period, it is a licensed, activated installation of Windows 10.

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
        We were all once "Average Users".

        • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1519143

      @bbearren. Thanks, that is clear to me; my query was what does the 1001 mean? (I have seen single-digit rearm counts before, but not in the thousands …!

      My Rig: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core CPU; ASUS Cross Hair VIII Formula Mobo; Win 11 Pro (64 bit)-(UEFI-booted); 32GB RAM; 2TB Corsair Force Series MP600 Pro 2TB PCIe Gen 4.0 M.2 NVMe SSD. 1TB SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 NVME SSD; MSI GeForce RTX 3090 VENTUS 3X 24G OC; Microsoft 365 Home; Condusiv SSDKeeper Professional; Acronis Cyberprotect, VMWare Workstation Pro V17.5. HP 1TB USB SSD External Backup Drive). Dell G-Sync G3223Q 144Hz Monitor.

      • #1519163

        @bbearren. Thanks, that is clear to me; my query was what does the 1001 mean? (I have seen single-digit rearm counts before, but not in the thousands …!

        I don’t have an answer for that one. I have the same info on both my installations of Windows 10, rearm count 1001.

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
        We were all once "Average Users".

        • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1519167

      Hey Y’all,

      Maybe that’s MS code for Licensed Copy? :cheers:

      May the Forces of good computing be with you!

      RG

      PowerShell & VBA Rule!
      Computer Specs

      • #1519173

        Hey Y’all,

        Maybe that’s MS code for Licensed Copy? :cheers:

        You may very well be right, RG. I just checked my 8.1 Pro and it has the same rearm count.

        Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!
        We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.
        We were all once "Average Users".

        • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by bbearren.
    • #1519175

      Rearming seems to be something to do with pre-activation versions of Windows. A count of 1 means 1 X 30-day period.

      A rearm count of 3 means you have “3 more times to extend the activation grace period. Which means you can do without activating for 90 more days.”

      I suspect that once activated, the count is set to 1001 (1001 X 30 days) leaving the software available for 30 030 days (82 years!!!) before needing to be activated!

      See here:

      http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install/what-is-the-meaning-of-the-term-rearm-count/203d0add-50dd-45b0-be3b-23f9ac55c560?auth=1

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