New Life For Ten Year Old DIY NAS Hardware

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I decided to upgrade my (unsupported hardware) NAS to Windows 11 Pro. All the later builds of 22H2 reject it for lacking TPM 2.0.  But, I had a Windows 11 21H2 ISO from November 2021, and Microsoft had a registry fix for TPM 1.2. I found a module on eBay a week or so ago. It was for an Asus motherboard and the Asus model numbers confirmed Intel chipsets. My NAS has an Intel motherboard, DH87RL with a TPM 1.2 header. The pinouts were the same, so I ordered it for $20 and change. It arrived last Friday.
I also had a Samsung 860 Evo 250GB eSATA SSD left unused from my desktop hardware upgrade, so I decided to swap that in for my no-longer-supported Intel 120GB eSATA SSD. The Samsung can use Rapid Mode via the latest Samsung Magician software (earlier versions only support AHCI, not RAID). I installed the SSD and the TPM 1.2 module, powered on and restored a full drive image from the Intel SSD.  I used BootIt UEFI for the restore and to resize the OS partition and setup a data partition. Windows 10 Pro 22H2 recognized the TPM module, and I did the registry fix, then ran a repair install with the Windows 11 21H2 ISO, OS Build 22000.318.
After the upgrade and “Hi.” rituals, I had a few Windows updates ready for download and install. After the updates, I ran another repair install with a Windows 11 22H2 ISO from October 2022, OS Build 22621.525. Again, after the upgrade and “Hi.” stuff, more Windows updates to download and install. The last two were KB5026446 and KB4023057, so I’m now running Version 22H2 OS Build 22621.1778, fully updated, and ‘healthy’.
Neither the early 22H2 ISO nor the KB5026446 update balked at the lack of TPM 2.0. I didn’t do any of the appraiserres.dll hacks or anything like that, just the one Microsoft issued registry fix for TPM 1.2. I’m noticing more zip from the Samsung Rapid Mode (it uses some RAM for cache); Sequential Read 559 MB/s vs 1214 MB/s, Sequential write 309 MB/s vs 1085 MB/s, Random Read 16845 IOPS vs 23193 IOPS, Random Write 14892 IOPS vs 15625 IOPS.
A NAS doesn’t need to be a barn burner, the RAID array can feed my network faster than my gigabit network can handle, and I couldn’t justify upgrading hardware if the finagled software upgrade would work, and it did so quite well.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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• This topic was modified 1 year, 10 months ago by bbearren.

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Could you have run Windows 11 22H2 ISO from October 2022, OS Build 22621.525 without running Windows 11 21H2 ISO, OS Build 22000.318 first?

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geekdom wrote:

Could you have run Windows 11 22H2 ISO from October 2022, OS Build 22621.525 without running Windows 11 21H2 ISO, OS Build 22000.318 first?

Not straight up; it kicked because of no TPM 2.0, which was my reason for looking for a TPM 1.2 module.  I could have done that using the appraiserres.dll hack, sure, but then I don’t know if I would have received KB5026446, because later builds and feature updates check hardware readiness.  I went the long way around to try to avoid that, and it worked.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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bbearren,

10 yrs old? What CPU is it running?

Where can I find the TPM 1.2 registry hack?

Thanks!

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

RG

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Hi RG!  Four core Intel Core i5 4670 CPU. Ways to install Windows 11 has the registry hack.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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Other ways to install Windows 11 (not recommended)
Source (your link — Ways to install Windows 11):
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ways-to-install-windows-11-e0edbbfb-cfc5-4011-868b-2ce77ac7c70e

Microsoft has improved documentation.

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geekdom wrote:

Other ways to install Windows 11 (not recommended) Source (your link — Ways to install Windows 11)

Indeed.  As in my reply to RG, that is my source for the registry fix.  I read all of it.

“Microsoft recommends against installing Windows 11 on a device that does not meet the Windows 11 minimum system requirements. If you choose to install Windows 11 on a device that does not meet these requirements, and you acknowledge and understand the risks, you can create the following registry key values and bypass the check for TPM 2.0 (at least TPM 1.2 is required) and the CPU family and model.

• Registry Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\MoSetup
• Name: AllowUpgradesWithUnsupportedTPMOrCPU
• Type: REG_DWORD
• Value: 1
• Note: Serious problems might occur if you modify the registry incorrectly by using Registry Editor or by using another method. These problems might require that you reinstall the operating system. Microsoft cannot guarantee that these problems can be solved. Modify the registry at your own risk.”

I chose. I have also been tinkerin’ in the registry for some twenty odd years, I always have up to date drive images at the ready, and I am unconcerned.

Should I choose, I can return to Windows 10 Pro 22H2 in about three minutes. FUD is not my concern.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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Backups rule. What I find refreshing is Microsoft’s new and improved documentation with practical, useful fixes.

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A bit THANK YOU goes out to @bbearren!

Using the registry key I successfully upgraded my Win 10 Pro 22H2 main driver to Win 11 22H2 Pro very easily and didn’t lose a thing, well at least not after I installed StartAllBack (mostly to get my taskbar toolbars back).

FYI: The machine is a Dell XPS 8920 with an i7 7700 and a TPM v1.2 module.

The one caveat is if you want to do the in place upgrade, like I did, you have to create a Win 11 USB drive using the media creation tool. You do NOT run this drive but rather from Win 10 you open the drive and run the Setup.exe you’ll find there.

The process took a couple of hours until I got every thing right but as I said everything transferred w/o issue. Including all my installed programs and the links of the Documents, Photos, Music, Videos, and Download folders to their relocated home on my G: drive.

Note: When you run the Setup.exe file it will recognize that your hardware is unsupported and give you a warning page that you have to accept, but once accepted the installation will proceed w/o problems.

For those of you who don’t like to mess around in the registry here’s a .reg file that you can run to insert the necessary entry. You can edit the file with notepad just to make sure there isn’t any funny stuff in there!
Win11ByPass

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

RG

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RetiredGeek wrote:

The one caveat is if you want to do the in place upgrade, like I did, you have to create a Win 11 USB drive using the media creation tool. You do NOT run this drive but rather from Win 10 you open the drive and run the Setup.exe you’ll find there.

@RetiredGeek, I rarely use thumb drives any more, nor the media creation tool.  Takes too much time.  I mount the ISO, copy the contents to a folder in a separate partition, and run Setup.exe from that location.

Also, after the initial “Hi.” routine finished and my desktop opened, a popup from my StartIsBack++ informed me that I needed an upgrade, and included a link.  I clicked on the link and StartAllBack downloaded in short order and presented the configuration screen.  All my settings were the same.  I was pleasantly surprised.

Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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Hey Y’all,

Just a little more info about running W11 on under powered hardware:

Before Testing For RoboFormn Startup - On 5/21/2023
DELLXPS8920's System is Compacted: False
7:31:56 PM
7:32:36 PM
Elapsed Reboot Time: 00:00:40.6945663

After Testing for Roboform Startup - On 5/21/2023
DELLXPS8920's System is Compacted: False
7:38:47 PM
7:39:54 PM
Elapsed Reboot Time: 00:01:07.5822798

After Win 11 22H2 Install - 1 - On 6/7/2023
DELLXPS8920's System is Compacted: False
8:47:02 PM
8:48:06 PM
Elapsed Reboot Time: 00:01:04.9493334

After Installing Windows 11 - 2 - On 6/7/2023
DELLXPS8920's System is Compacted: False
8:55:34 PM
8:56:25 PM
Elapsed Reboot Time: 00:00:51.5018334

After Installing Win 11 - 3 - On 6/7/2023
DELLXPS8920's System is Compacted: False
9:47:22 PM
9:48:11 PM
Elapsed Reboot Time: 00:00:49.9022349

After Installing Win 11 - 4 - On 6/7/2023
DELLXPS8920's System is Compacted: False
9:51:03 PM
9:51:49 PM
Elapsed Reboot Time: 00:00:46.1995287

The above times were generated using my Restart-Timer.ps1 program so there is no human error with the timing. You’ll see the two entries at the top were from Win 10 when I changed the program to test for the presence of the RoboFormIcon.exe program, one of the last things to load! Previously it was just recording the time when the desktop was ready to accept input, thus the increase in time. The last four entries were various restarts as I fixed things that the install had changed.

So I don’t think 46 seconds is too bad!

May the Forces of good computing be with you!

RG

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Always create a fresh drive image before making system changes/Windows updates; you may need to start over!

We all have our own reasons for doing the things that we do with our systems; we don't need anyone's approval, and we don't all have to do the same things.

We were all once "Average Users".

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