OneNote 2007 OCR problem

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I have just today discovered that OneNote has an OCR capability. I used the screen capture to transfer a clipping of text from a Google book and from a standard web page, to test the OCR function. When I right-clicked the selected clipping, and tried to copy the text from the picture, I was unable to paste the text to OneNote, Word or Notepad. The paste function appears to be working, but no text is transferred.
Office 2007 SP2 on Windows 7 Ultimate PC.
Many thanks
Dianne

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OneNote seems a little tricky to do this and I don’t know exactly what is happening. I captured a screen shot using OneNote’s Clip function and pasted it into a OneNote page and then ran Find command to see if it could find some of the words (yes) so I knew it recognised the text.

Next, I clicked on the graphic and the ‘graphic’ was selected, then I clicked on the text in the graphic and the selection object changed to the text on the graphic. Then I could right click and choose ‘Copy Text from Picture’ which then allowed my to paste the text elsewhere.

What exactly did you do to select the text?

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Thank you for replying so quickly. I followed the same steps as you used, and have tried again a couple of times to reassure myself that I was doing it properly. Still no luck.
The paste options box comes up when I do the paste action, and I have tried the all different choices (keep source formatting etc) but to no avail.
Dianne

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Is the text in the image super easy to read? Perhaps the OCR function is not recognising any of the image as text.

If you do a search for a word that appears in the image, does OneNote actually find it?

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The trial text is very clear (screenshot of one example attached). I suspect I am doing something wrong- the word search failed to find a word from the text.
Thank you for persisting with me on this problem.
Dianne

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I pasted that image into OneNote and the search found a word so I copied the text and pasted it here. As you can see, it is far from perfect but it should be at least recognisable. The resolution of your image is not fantastic and if the screen was zoomed closer before you did the original screen capture then the letters would be crisper and easier to OCR.

I don’t know what is going wrong with your version of OneNote to stop you being able to OCR any of it – sorry. I have version 12.0.4518.1014 if that helps.

The spoken case presentation is the concise summary of the history and physical c.xaminaitoc. Unlike
tue written version in a patient’s chart, the oral presentation is dynamic and ranges from a brief summ
ary grven by phone to a consultant to a more formal presefltatlofl to a large medical audience at an
acadcmie ,c,aion. Sucdntna.s and organization arc apcually imporwu. as the presenter has neither
the lusury of omitting important details nor time foe repetition. l3rcvity is of paramount imfrtancc
simply reading from the dun defeats the purpose of the exercise. Highlighted in thu chapeer ate the ess
ential components of the prcsernation: the chief complaint, the history of present illness (IWD. the
past medical histor>, the family and social history, the review ofsystems and, finally, the physical examin
ation findings.
The chief complaint should be as brief as possibk. in essence articulating the principal subicet under
consideration. Invariably, there is one overriding problem in the nsaoity of palierns. and a listener is
helped enormously by recognizing what is is at the stan. Indeed, from the first words of a presentation.
a listener is foirnulating possibk diagnoses. A lengthy chief complairn that indudes details of past hist
ory serves only to confuse the ltsicncr, and lengthen the presentation—a cardinal sin. The patient’s
owo words need be mentioned only if they illuminate the problem under consideration. The source is
always assumed to be the patient. and its content accurate if considered otherwise by the presenter, this
qualification must be made deaL The patient is bat identified as a man ne woman, which are more res
pectful designations than male oi female. Mentioning the patient’s occupation is ufcn hc4pful.
The HPI is the most important part of the exercise. If the problem is not undcrstood by the conclus
ion ola properly presented IIPI. it is unlikely to be understood ahcr extensive evaluation. Instead of
calendar dates, the duration of time prior to the episode of care should be specified. C.alendar dates req
uire a listener to remember the current date and subuact backwards to determine the length of the
problem, an unnecessary distraction.

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Once again, thank you.
The original screen capture is much clearer and letters larger and very crisp than appears in the screenshot I uploaded.
I am convinced that the error is in my technique and I will keep trying!
My OneNote version is 12.0.6425.1000
Regards
Dianne

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I’m wondering about this setting.

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I’m wondering about this setting.

I didn’t know this existed. In fact I started to fiddle around with OneNote 2010 Beta. I tried it out here and right clock, copy text from image, and paste it where ever i like! Works smooth as silk. Thanks every body.

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Catharine- I wasn’t aware of this setting. Interestingly, it is set to disabled, and when I select a language choice, it won’t stick, and the setting remains as “disabled.”
Thank you for giving me this lead.
Dianne

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Also, check out Tools, Options, Other and see what the check box “Text Recognition in Pictures” is set to.

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Text recognition in pictures is not disabled. Thank you once again.
Dianne

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I looooove OneNote – it makes me very sad when it doesn’t work properly.

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Agreed- it is such a boon. I haven’t had time to further explore its reluctance to deal with OCR on my setup, but will definitely to to master this feature soon.
Dianne

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just a guess this is a locked file in pdf format

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just a guess this is a locked file in pdf format

Ah the sweet mysteries of computing life! I went back to the test files which refused to cooperate and all behaved perfectly allowing text recognition and conversion. It’s odd how sometimes leaving a knotty computer problem alone, then coming back and doing exactly the same thing, yields the desired outcome!
Thanks for your response
Dianne

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In Office, it’s not just onenote that has OCR. Actually I never got around to trying onenote.

I recently learned that in the extra “Tools” that are installed with Office there is one called “Microsoft Office Document Imaging”. It opens TIF files and can OCR them. The few times I’ve tested it the OCR has been very good. The trick I particularly interested in was converting a PDF to TIF then using this tool to OCR it.

On the start menu, the shortcut to the tool is usually in a “Microsoft Office Tools” folder, in the Microsoft Office folder.

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In Office, it’s not just onenote that has OCR. Actually I never got around to trying onenote.

I recently learned that in the extra “Tools” that are installed with Office there is one called “Microsoft Office Document Imaging”. It opens TIF files and can OCR them. The few times I’ve tested it the OCR has been very good. The trick I particularly interested in was converting a PDF to TIF then using this tool to OCR it.

On the start menu, the shortcut to the tool is usually in a “Microsoft Office Tools” folder, in the Microsoft Office folder.

Thanks for the tip!!
Dianne

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