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WINDOWS 11 By Susan Bradley The other day, a reader took me to task for my doom-and-gloom perspective about Windows 11. He said he was on the Windows
[See the full post at: Should we rush to install Windows 11?]
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
I was on Insider program as well. MS completely ignored the feedback about the vertical taskbar – they had new emojis to work on. Also, officially, my CPU is not supported (although it’s an i7 and I have both Secure Boot and TPM on). My soundcard is also officially not supported
There is nothing special about W11 I’d really want – so back to Windows 10 for me.
We will consider deploying Windows 11 only when all of our hardware and core software are fully compatible with the new operating system.
As of now, a number of our PCs do not support Windows 11.
As of today, the system requirements for Microsoft Office Home & Business 2019 and MathWork’s MATLAB R2021b include Windows 11.
However, WordPerfect Office 2021 and Dragon Naturally Speakings’ system requirements are silent with respect to Windows 11.
So, moving to Widows 11 is on hold until such time as it can be used on all of equipment and with all of our software.
Hi Susan,
With so many of us not ready to buy new computers and another four years before Win 10 is officially scrapped, will Patch Watch and DefCon be somehow divided between 10 and 11 so us 10-types do n0t fret about 11 problems?
Also, a one-liner like “21H2–not yet!” or “21H2—Go for it!” added to all of your Patch Watch and Update articles would be appreciated by your more obsessive followers (like me) who are eager to upgrade as soon as it’s judged safe. Thanks!
susan bradley wrote:
“Right now we’re releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10.”
b wrote:
At that time, Windows 10 was the last version.
Im not native english speaker, I am confused now. Please explain meaning of the word last.
If I follow your logic, the sentence should have been:
Right now we’re releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the latest version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10.
Why Microsoft did not disprove this rumor, that Windows 10 is the last version of Windows ever? Which is how basically everybody understood that.
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I’m not sure, what do you think the TPM is used for?
That’s the rub. We don’t really know yet. Microsoft knows. Intel knows.
So it must be very, very important. I’m sure we’ll find out soon.
My soundcard is also officially not supported.
I don’t know what it is about sound cards, but for some reason they go unsupported by Windows very quickly. I had a very nice sound setup in my 2003-era DIY build, but none of that hardware worked in Onyx, my 2015 build. Creative was no help at all.
So, moving to Widows 11 is on hold until such time as it can be used on all of equipment and with all of our software.
We couldn’t agree more.
Ultimately, the question is a economic, a matter of cost and benefit.
Is there anything compelling about Windows 11, of something that’s not in Windows 10? Not that I can see. Maybe there’s some sort of future-proofing that may be useful at some point in the future, but I don’t see anything now that offsets the costs of conversion/upgrade.
My experience of Microsoft products (both Windows and Office) is that while there may be long-term benefits for Enterprise users, for everybody else, new releases are something that Microsoft needs to sell more than users need to buy.
If Microsoft has moved to treating SOHO and Home users with Windows 10 as gamma testers, then it seems that their primary intent is getting Win 11 into circulation so that the gamma testers can flush out the issues before Microsoft makes a more serious push for Enterprise adoption sometime in 2022. I think that’s even more of a motivation than in trying to push sales of computers that are replacements of older equipment that won’t support the minimum hardware requirements.
I’m not sure, what do you think the TPM is used for?
That’s the rub. We don’t really know yet. Microsoft knows. Intel knows.
So it must be very, very important. I’m sure we’ll find out soon.
Microsoft did explain the use of TPM and other new requirements.
https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/windows-11-security-tpm-and-vbs-hacking-demo/
Microsoft did explain the use of TPM and other new requirements.
I watched that video. I followed those explanations and understood them, but the video was very much a developer-level talk. 95% of users probably wouldn’t get it.
Think about it this way. You’ve been running Windows 10 for four years and you’ve never been the victim of an attack. Does that video make you feel that Windows 11 will be any more secure? If you don’t understand this technical stuff, the answer is no. You’d need to take it on faith – this hyper-technical stuff is going way over your head.
One other thing I recall from the video was the exhortation to turn on things in Windows 10 to enjoy the same level of protections. I thought that was very presumptuous, very self-serving. One second, it’s saying, “Your processor won’t run Windows 11 because of X” and the next second, it’s saying, “Turn things on in Windows 10.”
Microsoft has yet to provide a consumer-level explanation of what I keep calling the processor line in the sand. Just because a bunch of tech-heads like us generally grasp what’s going on does not mean the broader audience will.
Susan,
To paraphrase Mark Twain,
“Most governments and software/hardware companies are liars, and you should never believe anything they tell you.”
OK, back to my cave. <sigh>
Win7 Pro SP1 64-bit, Dell Latitude E6330 ("The Tank"), Intel CORE i5 "Ivy Bridge", 12GB RAM, Group "0Patch", Multiple Air-Gapped backup drives in different locations. Linux Mint Newbie
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"The more kinks you put in the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the pipes." -Scotty
Right up there with “Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason!”
For a delightful ten minutes . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmEY88jfPMc
Alex5723
Our expertise is using computers and software to conduct market analysis.
We look to program developers (the experts) to tell us the system requirements for the software.
Using work arounds to install and test the compatibility of an operating system (Windows 11) will contribute nothing to our analysis and is a waste of our time and resources.
We can wait for the end of life of Windows 10, if necessary, with no negative impact on our business – unless there is a driving reason to convert sooner.
Will Windows 11 contribute to a significant improvement in the speed of our systems or provide greater system stability or security?
One thought I haven’t seen yet is that my role as an independent consultant is that my clients trust me to keep their systems running trouble-free. They like to be able to be efficient with their workflow and if I recommend a change that causes disruption to their comfortable workflow, I might be the one who would be out of a job.
What we’re seeing now is a flood of updates to Windows 11. What usually happens when M$ “fixes” one thing? Right, they break something else. And what does that mean? Right, disruption.
So I’m telling my clients that there is no reason to “upgrade” to Win11 yet. And yeah, I don’t consider the changes that M$ has made to the user interface to be upgrades. It’s “who moved my cheese” all over again. Remember that scenario with Vista, and then Win8? Sure, the changes in Win11 are not as drastic as the changes in Win8, but I gotta tell you that some of the people that work in the offices that I support might be good at the job they do, but they aren’t so good at figuring out where M$ moved the cheese. If an icon isn’t where it used to be, I get a phone call. Yes, I can connect remotely, but I’ve got more interesting projects that I would rather be working on.
As Susan said, “So play with Windows 11 if you like, but I do not consider it stable enough for everyday use”. And that applies especially for my nitwit clients.
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