Hello all, i’ve got a style problem. The document with the problem is attached. The section 2.1 formation must be a heading 2 but when i select the text and make it heading 2 it still is the style normal. What can i do about this?
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Style problem (Word 2000)
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AskWoody LoungerOctober 7, 2003 at 12:06 pm #394668Viewing 2 reply threadsAuthorReplies-
WSHansV
AskWoody LoungerOctober 7, 2003 at 12:30 pm #725395Heading 2 is a paragraph style. If you apply Heading 2 to a part of a paragraph, you are just applying the character settings of the style to the selected text, but the paragraph as a whole will keep its original style. If you click anywhere in the paragraph or select the entire paragraph (including the paragraph marker at the end) and apply Heading 2, this will become the style for the paragraph, but you will lose all manual formatting.
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WSHansV
AskWoody LoungerOctober 7, 2003 at 12:30 pm #725396Heading 2 is a paragraph style. If you apply Heading 2 to a part of a paragraph, you are just applying the character settings of the style to the selected text, but the paragraph as a whole will keep its original style. If you click anywhere in the paragraph or select the entire paragraph (including the paragraph marker at the end) and apply Heading 2, this will become the style for the paragraph, but you will lose all manual formatting.
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WSPhil Rabichow
AskWoody LoungerOctober 7, 2003 at 11:14 pm #725757A quick way to change a paragraph to a heading style is to press & hold the Alt+Shift keys & tap the left arrow key. This will change it to Heading 1. Alt+Shift+Right arrow will then demote the heading (to Heading 2, Heading 3, & so on).
Also, for the first 3 headings:
Alt+Ctrl+1 = Apply Heading 1
Alt+Ctrl+2 = Apply Heading 2
Alt+Ctrl+3 = Apply Heading 3Cheers,
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WSDiane
AskWoody LoungerOctober 8, 2003 at 3:23 pm #726055You can insert the no-width optional break from the Insert/Symbol/Special Characters to give a portion of the paragraph the heading 2 style while the remainder stays in normal or body text. But I looked at this document, and I don’t think the numbering is part of the heading 2 style, which it probably should be.
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WSPhil Rabichow
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WSDiane
AskWoody LoungerOctober 8, 2003 at 10:59 pm #726297No. You are not misunderstanding. It’s me. I am confusing my most recently acquired skills. In fact, it’s the hidden paragraph mark, a tip I got from you here originally (and used with great success in a policy and procedures manual, shortening the manual by some 20 pages). The no width optional break is another recent tip that I had used used extensively in a document that was filled with references to websites (and it worked out just wonderfully for allowing text to be justified without huge gaps). Sorry. I’ll try to check myself on what I want to say before I say it next time.
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WSDiane
AskWoody LoungerOctober 9, 2003 at 12:01 am #726320I used the no width optional break in a pleading which contained a lot of names of websites. Our pleadings are justified and we’re required to use 13 pt. font, so a couple of sites like http://www.wopr.com/cgi-bin/w3t within a short distance of each other caused the text to wrap to the next line, before its time, so to speak, and the lines were so spread out they looked ridiculous and were actually hard to read. I created a shortcut key and inserted the no width optional break at several spots within the website addresses so that they could break and wrap, keeping a better flow. I used this method rather than spaces because things get revised (and revised) and I didn’t want to end up with something like http://www.wopr . com / cig – bin/w3t scattered throughout the document when the revisions were done and I needed to get it out the door. I also used it after the slash in plaintiff/counterdefendant, also used frequently in this pleading and the cause of many more lines being spread too far. I try to use as many features as I can so that when the revisions are done and it’s getting late and a document has to be filed with the court, I don’t have too much goofy looking stuff to contend with. I have not used the no width non break either and right off-hand can’t think of how I would.
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WSPhil Rabichow
AskWoody LoungerOctober 9, 2003 at 11:52 pm #726959Hi Diane:
Thanks for the information. For some reason, on my machine, inserting a no-width optional break from Insert/Symbols/Special characters does nothing. I do have a shortcut key that inserts a no width space & that works to allow the text wrap. I wonder why a no width space works for me, but no a no width optional break. -
WSIanWilson
AskWoody LoungerOctober 12, 2003 at 3:13 pm #727778I had never heard of non-width breaks before this discussion, but now that I try it (to allow a break after using a / in a phrase like ‘either/or’), like Phil I find that it does not work for me. I have always wondered how to do that and have often resorted to using spaces either side of the / but that doesn’t look very good. So if anyone can help me (and Phil) work out why it doesn’t work for us (I am on Word 2000 SP3) I’d be grateful. Also, Phil, I can imagine what a no-width space is, but how do you get one?
Ian
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WSCherylF
AskWoody LoungerOctober 12, 2003 at 7:53 pm #727812Nonprinting formatting marks must be showing to see the zero-width space symbol (looks like a gray box inside a gray box). Click the Show/Hide icon on the toolbar to toggle marks on/off. You must also select a Unicode font like Arial Unicode MS, then go to the subset General Punctuation (in Insert/Symbols).
Its most useful purpose is to split combination words after the slash or long web site addresses that extend beyond the current line.
Cheryl
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WSCherylF
AskWoody LoungerOctober 12, 2003 at 7:53 pm #727813Nonprinting formatting marks must be showing to see the zero-width space symbol (looks like a gray box inside a gray box). Click the Show/Hide icon on the toolbar to toggle marks on/off. You must also select a Unicode font like Arial Unicode MS, then go to the subset General Punctuation (in Insert/Symbols).
Its most useful purpose is to split combination words after the slash or long web site addresses that extend beyond the current line.
Cheryl
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WSPhil Rabichow
AskWoody LoungerOctober 12, 2003 at 8:16 pm #727818Hi Ian:
I do have a way to break lines at the forward slash. However, it was by using a no-width space, rather than a no-width optional break or no-width non break. The latter two special characters (Insert/Symbol/Special Characters) did nothing for me & I can’t figure out how to use them.What I did was to insert a no width space, select it, go to Tools/AutoCorrect & type a shortcut for it (I use sp*). Then whenever I want a break between something like either/or
I just type sp* after the slash & AutoCorrect takes over. However, I’ve forgotten the ANSI code that I used to insert the no-width space. -
WSDiane
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WSDarsha
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WSPhil Rabichow
AskWoody LoungerOctober 20, 2003 at 5:39 pm #731777Hi Darsha:
Here’s an article by Klaus Linke & Dave Rado, both Microsoft MVPs. click here.
Cheers, -
WSDiane
AskWoody LoungerOctober 21, 2003 at 3:22 pm #732413I read this article and then tried a Find/Replace with the no width optional break. It can be ignored. I searched my document for Plaintiffs/Counterdefendants and found all with and without the no width optional break. The break displays almost the same as the no width space. I’m wondering if they are not actually the same thing with Find/Replace working with the no width optional break as it does with an optional hyphen because it is on the Insert/Symbol menu rather than inserted using ASCI text.
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WSPhil Rabichow
AskWoody LoungerOctober 21, 2003 at 5:04 pm #732491Hi Diane:
Thanks for the information. You’re correct–Find/Replace ignores the 2 special characters, no width break & non break. I still haven’t seen a use for either, as neither one will paste into the Find box & neither will make plaintiff/defendant wrap after the slash. I figured out what I did to get my “no width” space. I inserted a space, then condensed it by some large amount & made it into an autocorrect entry. However, when you do that, you can’t search for plaintiff/defendant…you must search for plaintiff/ defendant.
Cheers, -
WSDiane
AskWoody LoungerOctober 21, 2003 at 5:17 pm #732505I may be confused but the no width optional break will make plaintiff/counterdefendant will wrap after the slash. And I was meaning to convey that you can search for plaintiff/counterdefendant and find all occurrences, those with and without the optional break. The article goes into a wild card method of searching because it will not find plaintiff/defendant with the ASCI no width space in it.
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WSPhil Rabichow
AskWoody LoungerOctober 21, 2003 at 7:58 pm #732627Well, there must be something different about my setup, but I don’t know what. Something is clearly being inserted when I insert the no width optional break & no break because the cursor will hesitate there when I press the arrow keys. And I can copy & paste it in the main document.. Oh, well…
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WSPhil Rabichow
AskWoody LoungerOctober 21, 2003 at 7:58 pm #732628Well, there must be something different about my setup, but I don’t know what. Something is clearly being inserted when I insert the no width optional break & no break because the cursor will hesitate there when I press the arrow keys. And I can copy & paste it in the main document.. Oh, well…
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WSDiane
AskWoody LoungerOctober 21, 2003 at 5:17 pm #732506I may be confused but the no width optional break will make plaintiff/counterdefendant will wrap after the slash. And I was meaning to convey that you can search for plaintiff/counterdefendant and find all occurrences, those with and without the optional break. The article goes into a wild card method of searching because it will not find plaintiff/defendant with the ASCI no width space in it.
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WSPhil Rabichow
AskWoody LoungerOctober 21, 2003 at 5:04 pm #732492Hi Diane:
Thanks for the information. You’re correct–Find/Replace ignores the 2 special characters, no width break & non break. I still haven’t seen a use for either, as neither one will paste into the Find box & neither will make plaintiff/defendant wrap after the slash. I figured out what I did to get my “no width” space. I inserted a space, then condensed it by some large amount & made it into an autocorrect entry. However, when you do that, you can’t search for plaintiff/defendant…you must search for plaintiff/ defendant.
Cheers, -
WSDiane
AskWoody LoungerOctober 21, 2003 at 3:22 pm #732414I read this article and then tried a Find/Replace with the no width optional break. It can be ignored. I searched my document for Plaintiffs/Counterdefendants and found all with and without the no width optional break. The break displays almost the same as the no width space. I’m wondering if they are not actually the same thing with Find/Replace working with the no width optional break as it does with an optional hyphen because it is on the Insert/Symbol menu rather than inserted using ASCI text.
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WSPhil Rabichow
AskWoody LoungerOctober 20, 2003 at 5:39 pm #731778Hi Darsha:
Here’s an article by Klaus Linke & Dave Rado, both Microsoft MVPs. click here.
Cheers, -
WSDarsha
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WSPhil Rabichow
AskWoody LoungerOctober 12, 2003 at 8:16 pm #727819Hi Ian:
I do have a way to break lines at the forward slash. However, it was by using a no-width space, rather than a no-width optional break or no-width non break. The latter two special characters (Insert/Symbol/Special Characters) did nothing for me & I can’t figure out how to use them.What I did was to insert a no width space, select it, go to Tools/AutoCorrect & type a shortcut for it (I use sp*). Then whenever I want a break between something like either/or
I just type sp* after the slash & AutoCorrect takes over. However, I’ve forgotten the ANSI code that I used to insert the no-width space. -
WSIanWilson
AskWoody LoungerOctober 12, 2003 at 3:13 pm #727779I had never heard of non-width breaks before this discussion, but now that I try it (to allow a break after using a / in a phrase like ‘either/or’), like Phil I find that it does not work for me. I have always wondered how to do that and have often resorted to using spaces either side of the / but that doesn’t look very good. So if anyone can help me (and Phil) work out why it doesn’t work for us (I am on Word 2000 SP3) I’d be grateful. Also, Phil, I can imagine what a no-width space is, but how do you get one?
Ian
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WSPhil Rabichow
AskWoody LoungerOctober 9, 2003 at 11:52 pm #726960Hi Diane:
Thanks for the information. For some reason, on my machine, inserting a no-width optional break from Insert/Symbols/Special characters does nothing. I do have a shortcut key that inserts a no width space & that works to allow the text wrap. I wonder why a no width space works for me, but no a no width optional break. -
WSDiane
AskWoody LoungerOctober 9, 2003 at 12:01 am #726321I used the no width optional break in a pleading which contained a lot of names of websites. Our pleadings are justified and we’re required to use 13 pt. font, so a couple of sites like http://www.wopr.com/cgi-bin/w3t within a short distance of each other caused the text to wrap to the next line, before its time, so to speak, and the lines were so spread out they looked ridiculous and were actually hard to read. I created a shortcut key and inserted the no width optional break at several spots within the website addresses so that they could break and wrap, keeping a better flow. I used this method rather than spaces because things get revised (and revised) and I didn’t want to end up with something like http://www.wopr . com / cig – bin/w3t scattered throughout the document when the revisions were done and I needed to get it out the door. I also used it after the slash in plaintiff/counterdefendant, also used frequently in this pleading and the cause of many more lines being spread too far. I try to use as many features as I can so that when the revisions are done and it’s getting late and a document has to be filed with the court, I don’t have too much goofy looking stuff to contend with. I have not used the no width non break either and right off-hand can’t think of how I would.
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WSPhil Rabichow
AskWoody Lounger
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WSDiane
AskWoody LoungerOctober 8, 2003 at 10:59 pm #726298No. You are not misunderstanding. It’s me. I am confusing my most recently acquired skills. In fact, it’s the hidden paragraph mark, a tip I got from you here originally (and used with great success in a policy and procedures manual, shortening the manual by some 20 pages). The no width optional break is another recent tip that I had used used extensively in a document that was filled with references to websites (and it worked out just wonderfully for allowing text to be justified without huge gaps). Sorry. I’ll try to check myself on what I want to say before I say it next time.
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WSPhil Rabichow
AskWoody Lounger
WSDiane
AskWoody LoungerOctober 8, 2003 at 3:23 pm #726056You can insert the no-width optional break from the Insert/Symbol/Special Characters to give a portion of the paragraph the heading 2 style while the remainder stays in normal or body text. But I looked at this document, and I don’t think the numbering is part of the heading 2 style, which it probably should be.
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