• System File Checker (WinXP SR1 – IE6)

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    In response to a few questions here and/or on WinXP it was suggested that I setup WinXP to run sfc upon boot. I went as directed to somewhere in MMC and togged it to run each boot. The weirdness is that it needs the CD every time to update some file(s) in the dll cache. Shouldn’t that be fixed one time and be done unless something is messing it up every day? What could it be?

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    • #668192

      What you say Bryan makes perfect sense, but I don’t believe it does this. All the articles say it makes a hierarchical search for files, and a number of them say it doesn’t have to resort to the CD-ROM if there is room for the files on your hard drive, and most people have room. But it always seems to go for the CD-Rom on any machine I’ve run it on with plenty of space on the drive. I would untog it in the MMC or Group Policy Editor portion of the MMC. I’m not sure why you would need to or want to run it every boot. I guess your approach is that it should rarely need to take much time and be a quick scan and check. This makes good theoretical sense–you want to always be running with your files, dlls intact in practice it not only prompts you for the CD-ROM but takes me no less than 10-15 minutes.

      Logically, time is going to vary depending on how many applications, documents, and files each machine has. How long does it take you? Is it doing a quick scan in seconds but just annoying you for the CD-ROM?

      I agree what you are doing in an ideal world is an improvement that should possibly be built in to XP or later Longhorn which would theoretically make for smooth running and less crashes if it can be set up to run very quickly and not to keep prompting you for the CD[/i] but I don’t think it will do this–why is a good question–and I would untog it and just run it every once in a while.

      I thought about getting it to run faster and stop annoying me with the CD-Prompt–because to make it run I have to keep clicking the “retry” button on my machine, even with different clean installs which would qualify as a genuine annoyance–you can’t go away and come back–and to first get it to run I had to expand the CD-ROM and click on the I386folder–so I put this question a while back to Kelly Theriot an MVP who is very good at tweaks and has Kelly’s Korner and Kelly came back with this. This tweak and reg modification from Kelly may enable you to do exactly what you want–have it scan fast on boot and eliminate the annoying and time consuming CD-ROM prompt:

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      As for SFC and Driver Cache/i386: Change your source path:

      Start/Run/Regedit
      HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionSetup

      In the right pane, double click SourcePath and type in exactly, the path towhere the cab files can be found. (The folder to where the cab files have been copied to). Registry, exit. If you are using XP SP1: The updated files are in the folder WindowsServicepackFiles. The .inf files that tell SFC where to get copies from are modified so that for relevant files it goes there first.

      HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionSetup.
      In the right pane, change the value of ServicePackSourcePath for those
      having SP1 on CD and wanting to route it separately. As per article: Q263499 if the CD Roms are allocated, this registry edit corrects that: Enable CD AutoPlay for Pro or Home (Line 10) Kelly’s Tweak’s.
      Seems I left a part out. %systemroot%system32dllcache Using %systemroot% tells Windows to find the drive Windows is installed in/on. Not all users install to C:. I use it for my scripts. The % is used as a system variable.

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      SMBP

      • #668400

        Thanks for the reply. I’d set it up to run this way because of a response here to my IE6 script de###### and other error message(s) question a couple of months ago. Running it actually fixed it for a while, but now it really doesn’t help. I’m going to stop it from running upon boot.

        • #668427

          Your idea that it should be run smoothly and efficiently so it could become a routine quick check is a very good one I think for Microsoft and the way I posted above is supposed to make it faster and to ensure it doesn’t keep asking for the CD– by redirecting the file search– but right now I have to keep prodding the “retry”–it runs some–and then stops and I prod the retry and the Windows File Protection progress bar runs a little further and always asks for the CD–and if I click details it says I have the wrong CD–a known glitch that generated a KB which has you go to the MMC and make sure a default snapin is set the way it defaults to anyway.

          The KB doesn’t really help anything except to tell you they officially acknowledge this glitch. I ignore the message that I have the wrong CD when I know it’s the right one–and in about 10-15 minutes I’ve run it. It isn’t perfect in that there is literature that criticizes that it doesn’t find every file and correct every file, but I find that it is very helpful and pretty effective and can fix some major problems in IE/OE/sometimes XP and it used to go after fixing Office files, but now Office has its own version of this file verification system which started in 2000 I think and evolved, but is definitely in Office XP. Nothing wrong with running it on boot, but if it takes you 10-15 minutes most people want a boot time that is in seconds.

          SMBP

        • #668547

          Hi, Bryan ~

          The ‘script de######’ is not really intended for average users and can be disabled by checking ‘Disable script debugging’ on the ‘Advanced’ tab of your IE ‘Internet Options…’. That will rid you of those annoying notices.

        • #668552

          The script debugging is a feature in IE6 intended as a troubleshooting tool for web developers, and unless you’re working the kinks out of a scripted website, it serves no purpose other than to slow your browsing. To get it out of your way, you check one box, and take the check out of the one below it on the Advanced tab of Tools>Internet Options.

          SMBP

          • #668838

            > The script debugging is a feature new to IE in IE6…

            FYI, it is an option in IE 5.x, too.

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