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    The attached page was originally set up using MS Publisher and its mail merge. This requires MS Access which my Office Small Business Edition does not have. However, MS Word can do a mail merge using input from Excel which is where my data is stored and should provide the same results as Publisher. The only merge field is shown as “Elizabeth” in the attached Word doc.

    Therefore I decided to make the two-fold card using Word. Since the folds are “on center” in both directions I thought that I would set up a 4 x 4 table with appropriate dimensions to have the four resulting panels produced by centered cells.

    The paper is 8.5″ x 11.0″ with all four borders set to 0.25″.

    Table column widths are set to 3.75″ – 0.25″ – 0.25″ – 3.75″ so that the fold falls between the two 0.25″ columns. The total width of 8.0″ plus the margins gives 8.5″.

    Table row heights are set to 5.00″ – 0.25″ – 0.25″ – 5.00″ so that the fold falls between the two 0.25″ rows. The total height of 10.5″ plus the margins gives 11.0″.

    This should position the large cells on the center of their respective pages after folding and thus make it easy to do each layout. As you can see from the attachment this results in the “correct” fit for width but not for height which overflows to a second page.

    The only way I can find to fit the table onto one page is to reduce the total sum of the cell heights and margins to 10.99 but that results in a second blank page being printed and the printing is off center vertically.

    Can someone tell me what settings to change to achieve the results I want for one page printing?

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    • #884131

      Hi,

      The problem may be due to the fact that you haven’t taken the thickness of your table borders into account. You can work around this by setting the bottom margin to 0.

      Cheers

      Cheers,
      Paul Edstein
      [Fmr MS MVP - Word]

      • #884169

        Thanks for the quick reply. There were two problems.

        1. The table borders were set while I was experimenting in my search for an answer and I forgot blush to remove them. sorry

        2. The table seems to require a paragraph mark after it question so when I set the bottom margin to zero AND tell page setup to ignore trying to print beyond the printers limits it worked.

        Thank you for sending me in the right direction. thankyou

        • #884195

          FYI, when you want to get rid of an extra page that is caused by the paragraph mark after a table (& yes, it is required), you can either:
          1. Select & format the paragraph mark as hidden & then turn off showing hidden text. You must also make sure under Tools/Options/Print that you aren’t printing hidden text.
          2. Format the paragraph mark with a font size of 1 (by clicking in the font size window on the formatting toolbar, typing 1 & pressing .
          3. Or do both.
          Cheers,

          • #884661

            Thanks Phil,

            I think that your #1 is best because then I do not have to override the printer bottom margin and then forget that I did it and probably print off the paper in the future. I did not realize that you can hide a paragraph mark ! bingo

          • #884662

            Thanks Phil,

            I think that your #1 is best because then I do not have to override the printer bottom margin and then forget that I did it and probably print off the paper in the future. I did not realize that you can hide a paragraph mark ! bingo

        • #884196

          FYI, when you want to get rid of an extra page that is caused by the paragraph mark after a table (& yes, it is required), you can either:
          1. Select & format the paragraph mark as hidden & then turn off showing hidden text. You must also make sure under Tools/Options/Print that you aren’t printing hidden text.
          2. Format the paragraph mark with a font size of 1 (by clicking in the font size window on the formatting toolbar, typing 1 & pressing .
          3. Or do both.
          Cheers,

      • #884170

        Thanks for the quick reply. There were two problems.

        1. The table borders were set while I was experimenting in my search for an answer and I forgot blush to remove them. sorry

        2. The table seems to require a paragraph mark after it question so when I set the bottom margin to zero AND tell page setup to ignore trying to print beyond the printers limits it worked.

        Thank you for sending me in the right direction. thankyou

    • #884132

      Hi,

      The problem may be due to the fact that you haven’t taken the thickness of your table borders into account. You can work around this by setting the bottom margin to 0.

      Cheers

      Cheers,
      Paul Edstein
      [Fmr MS MVP - Word]

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