Tasks for the weekend – May 22, 2021 – Status of 21H1

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(Youtube here) The May 2021 version of Windows 10 21H1 has been released and Microsoft is doing a “dribble out”. You will see it if you click on check
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Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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RoadieToo, CyGuy, The Surfing Pensioner

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Dell Inspiron 5379. Black screen with no progress following update. No issues following subsequent hard restart.

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I can confirm this story.  It’s now being offered to me voluntarily.  Think I’ll wait a few weeks before I bite the bullet.   lol

 

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Is the Registry Key nonetheless necessary if…

1. PRO users have TargetReleaseVersion set?
2. HOME users have Metered connection set?

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I originally intended my post for Susan but certainly replies are welcome from any of the Ask Woody gurus.

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The registry key is the “targetreleaseversion” setting.  Even on Home I prefer this registry key as it ensures you won’t even be offered the later version.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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CyGuy

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The registry key is more useful for Home users. As a Pro user, I use the TRV in Group Policy. When ready to make the switch, I’ll just change the TRV value from “20H2” to “21H1”. The registry key is still useful, nonetheless, but not so much for Pro users who use GP settings already as it’s then redundant 🙂

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Windows - commercial by definition and now function...

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In my “seeker” experience with 5 PCs so far, two were offered the update and the others were not offered the update. This would suggest MS is not dribbling this out to seekers. It could be they’ve got some unannounced blocks in place.

However, on the three not offered the update, setting TRV to 21H1 in Group Policy and then re-seeking initiated the immediate download and update. Total update time including reboot was between two and five minutes. This would suggest that if blocks are in place, TRV overrides them. That doesn’t seem likely though stranger things have happened with Feature Updates!

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Susan, you mention you always have to repair the Quickbooks PDF printer. I never thought to check my Quicken pdf printer. What do you do to fix yours if I find similar?

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Troubleshoot PDF and Print problems with QuickBook… (intuit.com)  That’s what I have to run.  I’m not seeing a similar tool for Quicken – Alerts & Known Product Issues — Quicken nor have I heard post install issues with Quicken.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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Well, since you mentioned I checked and get Printer not activated – error 30. I’ll check your link, but Goggling did not find much of interest – at least yet.

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Got it:

https://www.quicken.com/support/error-codes-20-and-30-when-printing-quicken-pdf-printer

Only works from inside Quicken. Cannot even print a test page from Win 10. Got to be inside Quicken and it works.

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On my 10+ year old Dell XPS 15, the 21H1 update was offered nearly the moment of release. Installed and not seeing any issues.

On my 4 year old Inspirion 7353 – which ‘suffered’ the Conexant driver nonsense, but did finally get to 20H2 a few weeks ago, has not been offered the 21H1 update yet. Conexant driver issues are not noted by MS, and not public block is shown. But I wonder if I am going to have to go through these for every new update going forward …

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So Microsoft dribbles out Windows 10 updates. Okay. I didn’t get it … yet.

I tried imagining how they go about it:
Customers are divided in groups. Group 1 gets the update. After an interval group 2 gets the update. Then after a second interval a third group gets the update. And so on, interval 3 > group 4 – interval 4 > group 5 – interval 5 > group 6 – etc.

So how long is an interval?

How often do I attempt “Check updates”? Every day? Every week? Every 2 weeks? Every month? Every 2nd or every 4th Tuesday?

As the saying goes: the uncertainty is killing me!

1 Desktop Win 11
1 Laptop Win 10
Both tweaked to look, behave and feel like Windows 95
(except for the marine blue desktop, rgb(0, 3, 98)

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Be careful what you wish for. MS Updates may well “kill” you quicker than you think. Be patient, be uncertain and be happy.

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Why not set TVR to 21H1 ?

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Alex5723 wrote:

Why not set TVR to 21H1 ?

Do you mean TRV (“TargetReleaseVersion”)?

I don’t have that key.

I assume that key accepts only a particular specified version.

But any newer version offered would be accepted if that key is absent.

Am I wrong then?

1 Desktop Win 11
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Both tweaked to look, behave and feel like Windows 95
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…………..And I always thought bored techs on the M/S update team pinged out new feature updates in the direction of diddleydum thousand unsuspecting little bods with every third cup of coffee……………….Then listened for the screams.

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E Pericoloso Sporgersi wrote:

Do you mean TRV (“TargetReleaseVersion”)?

I don’t have that key.

Sorry, TRV.

In W10 pro its done in GP.
For home use : 21H1 reg

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]
“TargetReleaseVersion”=dword:00000001
“TargetReleaseVersionInfo”=”21H1”

Courtesy of @sb

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E Pericoloso Sporgersi

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Alex5723 wrote:

For home use : 21H1 reg

Sure, I understand that.

But if Windows Update simply does NOT offer me 21H1, then that key is no use, is it?

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Windows Update will provide the Feature Update after the registry tweak. However, it won’t provide the choice whether or not to “Download and install.” After the tweak, if you click on “Check for updates,” the download will begin immediately.

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E Pericoloso Sporgersi

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You’re right. I was wrong.
After I inserted the 21H1 reg key, 21H1 was installed. Very quickly too.

Thanks guys.

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Both tweaked to look, behave and feel like Windows 95
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Alex5723

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Keep in mind that with the key set to 21H1, Windows Update will not offer newer Feature Updates. You will have to edit or delete the key in the future should you choose to upgrade via Windows Update.

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No problem. I already ran reset reg.

1 Desktop Win 11
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Both tweaked to look, behave and feel like Windows 95
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anonymous wrote:

Windows Update will not offer newer Feature Updates.

We have 6+ month of wait for the next feature update.

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That’s right. Plenty of time to forget that registry key you set six months earlier and now wondering why that **** MS isn’t offering me my upgrade!

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Don’t worry, I’ll remind you 🙂

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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Gave my ultra-slow 32-bit a punt @ 21H1.
Impressive 30-minutes | GOOD-2-GO !
Windows 10 Home. Version 21H1. OS build 19043.985.
LIVING ON THE WILD SIDE !

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hello, using win 10 pro here

gonna set the TRV to 20H2

and is it safe to install the monthly security update now( since i saw that its still ms defcon 2)

if not what other setting that i need to do to delay the update

i already pause my windows update since my last update on 1st May

 

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See AKB2000016 Guide to Windows Update Settings for Win10.

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OK; broke down and installed the update.  Very quick.  Even installed the optional update that followed (that includes the temp app next to time).  I know some folk poo poo’ed this but I actually like it.  Of course I was a big fan of widgets back in the day too until M$ deemed it a security problem.   lol

 

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I installed the update today from Win 10 Pro 2004 with the September updates installed. Absolutely no problems and everything seems to be OK. Fingers crossed, touch wood, etc. I didn’t time it, but I’d say that download was less than a minute and update was about the same.

This was on a workstation I built in 2017. Core i7, 32GB. SQL Server, Visual Studio, etc. Printing is via ethernet to router and WiFi to Epson wf-3640.

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