The current state of big bugs in various versions of Windows

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More than a few odd things afoot, but there’s reason to be optimistic. Bottom line: I still wouldn’t stick my least favorite politician with the Anniv
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I still wouldn’t stick my least favorite politician with the Anniversary Update.

Lovely way of putting things.

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Heh heh heh. You noticed. 🙂

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I’ve been following your plotting of the whole WinX business (fiasco?) and started to wonder who is driving this from the bowels of M$. Life cannot be good for the worker bees who care about what they produce, assuming any of them are left.

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Well, except maybe Hillary…because then, she wouldn’t have to delete emails herself – Windows might do it for her (after a botched update)! Bah dum tiss…

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given the inevitability and just how long deferring updates will keep 1607 u/grade at bay and it seems M$ still wants to upgrade those older W10 ver. Heres a little something for you all to try. Rather than let 1607 loose on my working W10 part. i chose to install to a VHD and have been steadily working through the bugs & niggles pretty much for the last 3 weeks. Heres how installing from a USB and one or two other things are covered out there so i wont elaborate try this link https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO/ yes the giveaway is still on! (seems they cant give it away hehe)download the tool execute make the .iso for another machine, create a USB stick with the new .iso, while your waiting for all that create a “ei.cfg file” in notepad (lots of howtos out there) when the stick is made just throw the ei.cfg file in the sources folder and thats it. What you get (if you made the ei.cfg file with OEM & VL soecified) is a choice of 4 ver. home x2, Pro, Edu at install after booting in to a VHD (again howto make is out there from boot) and you too can have a merry month shaking out the bugs from 1607 all free of charge OBTW you may well get lucky and it will digitally activate as it does on every machine i have put it on except Edu which is VL. and you may ask did i get this info from? all from dear ole M$ web pages and “serendipity” 🙂

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I personally think it has to do with the exit of Bill Gates from the running of Microsoft. This totally goes against Gates’ philosophy of as much backward compatibility as possible, which in my opinion is what gave MS its absolute dominance on the corporate desktop.

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I should add that “no active partitions or bcd/EFI boot partitions were harmed during the making of this procedure” ie your not going to wreck anything thats working fine 🙂

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“There could be rocky times ahead.”
I thought we were already in rocky times. Maybe the times ahead will be bouldery.

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Does anyone else experience long load times on Woody’s articles on InfoWorld and occasional crashes related to long running scripts and Flash crashes or is it only me? I use primarily Firefox currently at ESR 45.3.0 and everything else is up to date. I haven’t seen any current reported bugs with Firefox and Flash, except for the ongoing issues with Flash. However this issue seems to be related to JavaScript code and third-party web sites and not so much Flash itself.
I avoid on purpose add-ons like NoScript and Adblock Plus. Actually Adblock Plus would not fix the issue, but NoScript would according to my tests.
I should mention that I have a current support ticket raised with InfoWorld and they have been very keen to resolve this and are currently investigating.

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Thanks Woody, this type of article is what a lot of us need to have everything in one place as current reference. I know there is a lot of effort involved to keep this list current, but it is all worth it! 🙂

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the quality went out of Ms when the founders left. It became the typical sw company bcoz in my opinion nadella is incapable of more. They say people raise to the level of their incompetence.

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That may be true and I agree. Unfortunately some of the loudest complains were that backward compatibility “holding” the Windows back. I have seen many time “experts” demand that the MS break the backward compatibility as it held back the “progress.” This is one area MS is actually listening since they share the progressive mindset. That and the ones who are happy with this capacity does not complain so…

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I could think of a few that I would

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HA!

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@ch100, I have not experienced the issues that you describe. I am running Firefox 47.0.1 (which says it’s up to date, even though 48.0.2 is the latest release), with NoScript and Adblock Plus. I don’t allow any scripts to run on Woody’s page or on the InfoWorld page, and I haven’t been required to in order to read the content there. I also disallow cookies by default, and haven’t needed to enable them on the aforementioned websites.

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Yes I do experience the problem w InfoWorld articles extreme slowness but on my phone

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Thank you for your reply Marty, your configuration is good, but not typical for most users. I had good results with NoScript enabled, however I think it is too much to configure while using it, so I generally don’t use it. I don’t use Adblock Plus on InfoWorld as this was recommended by Woody and is a tiny contribution for his effort to keep this highly useful blog alive. Adblock Plus does not resolve the issue as I said.
I found an acceptable workaround for now, to disable Flash by default and enable it only on authorised sites. It is better, although still not ideal. I tried various cookies configuration and in general I don’t accept third-party cookies, but it seems not to help. Most sites become unusable if first-party cookies are not accepted and I don’t use that configuration on principle, because accepting first-party cookies is compliant with the standards. Accepting third-party cookies is optional, although it seems that Google has coding ways around that configuration and breaches it.
I am confident that InfoWorld will optimise their site and resolve this issue one day, without us having to go through complex configuration to discard parts of what the site has to offer.

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and when do we expect …. da Comet Extinction time?

Long live the dinosaurs!

@woody
some one mention here… do you think M$ would have a possibility of new blood and another few decades? looking at G20 Alibaba is planning BIG apparently! maybe bill is an angel would pass the burden to his heirs?

still think they are ripen to be taken over… while there is still a price….
but our future (w/c/sh)ould become even more uncertain…

one of my games was taken over by EA and now its good as dead (unable to activate again) as EA help is not very responsive to transplanted-owner it seems… no profit from alien like me from another platform 🙁

Its a COOKBOOK!

hv a gd wkend ahead ppl 🙂

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In another few decades, I’m sure there will be lots of changes. In fact, I have a hard time envisioning what things will look like next year….

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@ch100: “Accepting third-party cookies is optional, although it seems that Google has coding ways around that configuration and breaches it.”

Do you have any more information about this for those of us who do everything we can to block Google?

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Woody;

“….who’s on first and what’s on second.”

M$ erratic behavior in the last year or so in re. Win7/8.1 updates could be explained by Hanlon’s razor is suppose.

IMHO M$ is trying to weasel out of supporting the users who have already paid for the product and are now just “spent brass”.

I dunno on third.

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🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTcRRaXV-fg

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@Jim
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/ie/2012/02/20/google-bypassing-user-privacy-settings/

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/02/time-make-amends-google-circumvents-privacy-settings-safari-users

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2046970/google-says-it-is-not-answerable-in-the-uk-in-safari-cookies-privacy-suit.html

In essence, there are default setting in browsers (IE and Safari in those situations of which I am aware) which are set to allow third-party cookies in certain conditions to provide a complete user experience for those legitimate sites which somehow use both types of cookies. Those extra safeguards are ignored by Google which bypassed them in the past and apparently stopped once they were made public.
IE is the only browser which uses a standard which Google claims that is no longer relevant. That standard was cutting edge at the time when IE implemented it and is still valid, but Google decided to ignore it on their web sites to the cost of privacy of the end-users.
Safari has a default setting on all devices which says “accept third-party cookies only from (previously) visited sites”. Google sites pretended dynamically in code that their sites have been visited which is not true, so their advertising cookies were accepted by the browser.

It appears that setting any browser on Never accept third-party cookies is safe, but this may impact the experience on some, mostly recent Microsoft sites, which legitimately make use of third-party cookies, which I don’t actually understand. I am not a web developer though. Mozilla help files for cookies and Windows 10 help makes reference to this information.

I am still not decided which setting is best, but believing in quality in general, I tend to follow Apple’s setting which is implemented in Firefox (not as default).

The unfortunate result is that IE and Edge in Windows 10 now come out of the box configured like Firefox and Chrome to accept all cookies.

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Just think about this:

If Microsoft’s behaviour with Windows 95 had been like with Windows 10 today, do you think M$ would have grown to be the desktop giant it is today?

I know the comparison is way flawed, and I’m talking about the behaviour Microsoft has with the product and update methods, not the features or stability. Win95 crashed too often, we all know that. 🙂

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Woody, we’ve got a new-ish bug on 1607 that impacts small business networks.

Users trying to create or rename folders on a server share from Win10-1607 getting errors, timeouts, or it works but take several minutes for one folder to take its new name.

Simple solution seems to be disabling the Windows Search service on the Server . . . ugh.

Full problem and description here:
https://networkdefend.blogspot.com/2016/09/fix-windows-10-error-0x8007003b-when.html

~ Group "Weekend" ~

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On September 2, 2016 at 9:49 am

@Woody says:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTcRRaXV-fg

“Who’s On First!”

I Raise You One.

“What It Was, Was Football.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FibbKyBTJX4

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