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    I just don’t have to edit .pdf files but a couple times a year so I don’t really want to pay for a edit program, I now just use Adobe reader.

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    • #1530581

      A lot depends on the PDF. Some are images that can’t be edited, others are created from a word processor and can be.

      Check your word processor. Some can open, edit, and save PDF’s.

      There are also a few free online services that will convert a PDF to a word processing document. May or may not work for you depending on the PDF.

    • #1530587

      Not free, but cheap and recommended by our very own Paul T…does a lot for 20 bucks, splash out on it, everyone has to make a living.:cool:
      https://www.pdfill.com/

    • #1530635

      Adobe Acrobat Pro 8 is available as a free download. See: http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4683-adobe-acrobat-8-free.html (note the serial# mentioned there).

      Cheers,
      Paul Edstein
      [Fmr MS MVP - Word]

      • #1530690

        Adobe Acrobat Pro 8 is available as a free download. See: http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4683-adobe-acrobat-8-free.html (note the serial# mentioned there).

        Would you consider Acrobat Pro 8 safe, or does it have vulnerabilities which have been patched in future versions?

        Group "L" (Linux Mint)
        with Windows 10 running in a remote session on my file server
        • #1530737

          Would you consider Acrobat Pro 8 safe, or does it have vulnerabilities which have been patched in future versions?

          It safe enough for me to use – I bought mine years ago and I’m still using it. The download version is 8.0.0, but you can update it to 8.3.1 with the various security etc. updates from the Adobe website.

          Cheers,
          Paul Edstein
          [Fmr MS MVP - Word]

      • #1531285

        Adobe Acrobat Pro 8 is available as a free download. See: http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4683-adobe-acrobat-8-free.html (note the serial# mentioned there).

        This download does not run on 64 bit processors.

        • #1531303

          This download does not run on 64 bit processors.

          Will it run in 32-bit Windows installed on 64-bit hardware?

          Before you wonder "Am I doing things right," ask "Am I doing the right things?"
          • #1531350

            Will it run in 32-bit Windows installed on 64-bit hardware?

            Yes, I have Acrobat Pro 8.0 running on my Win 10 64-bit machine.

    • #1530719

      Just don’t use it as a browser plugin.

      🍻

      Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
    • #1530741

      Normally you would have to pay for this so how can this be free? Is it because it’s an older version?

      • #1530742

        Normally you would have to pay for this so how can this be free? Is it because it’s an older version?

        Presumably, though I don’t believe Adobe has published any particular reason. In any event, Adobe Acrobat Pro 8 has far more functionality, including OCR for example, than you’re likely to find in freeware/shareware products.

        Cheers,
        Paul Edstein
        [Fmr MS MVP - Word]

    • #1530743

      Quite some time ago ADOBE decided to give Adobe Photoshop CS2, Adobe Acrobat Pro 8, and a number of other programs away for a free download because they weren’t going to support those older programs any more. I downloaded the 2 I just mentioned and they work fine for my needs.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

      • #1531973

        Quite some time ago ADOBE decided to give Adobe Photoshop CS2, Adobe Acrobat Pro 8, and a number of other programs away for a free download because they weren’t going to support those older programs any more. I downloaded the 2 I just mentioned and they work fine for my needs.

        PageMaker is also readily available, but I don’t know what else.

        It helps to remember that there are a lot of people who might really have a use for some of these programs, which were widely used and ‘state of the art’ as it was at the time, some of whom would welcome them on financial grounds and some because they already know the software perfectly and would prefer to stick to what they know rather than learn something newer. Libraries and bookstores are full of publications that were prepared with these programs, and if you want to publish something yourself you’re off to the races, and you’ll have a nice set of fonts to go with it.

        • #1533525

          PageMaker is also readily available, but I don’t know what else.

          Hi dogberry, noticed your remark and searched high and low for PageMaker but cannot find it, do you have a link by any chance?

          • #1533537

            Hi dogberry, noticed your remark and searched high and low for PageMaker but cannot find it, do you have a link by any chance?

            Softonic is the source I found if you google it, but I can’t vouch for Softonic having no recollection of my ever having downloaded from it. As far as I know, it’s legit and widely recognized, and PageMaker is genuinely history (and came with lots of fonts, if memory serves me right). I recall attending shows where Adobe offered the trial version on CD and it got snapped up faster than anything else on the floor.

            On the other hand, in a different thread I mentioned Lotus Symphony, which I was unable to download (and that may even have been Softonic as well), and eventually discovered a notice that something, and probably that, had been yanked because of patent infringement, complete with a legal notification with a long list of names of heavy hitters including Google itself, the very company that had led me to the site, and that made my day in a backward sort of way. I was sorry to miss the suite ‘for review purposes’, but I have a million others fully licenced, and it was interesting to see the legal dust-up over Lotus having open-sourced it (if that is what it was about). I don’t know if it was Monopoly Money versus open source, or something else.

    • #1530763

      With Acrobat 8 can you add text etc to PDFs that are only images?

      cheers, Paul

    • #1530775

      Well, it’s not an image editor, if that’s what you mean, but it can overly a page with text in a textbox. If you want to actually edit the text, I’d consider OCRing the image, then exporting to Word, where to have full access to editing tools and can re-create the PDF.

      Cheers,
      Paul Edstein
      [Fmr MS MVP - Word]

    • #1530776

      Yes, I meant overlay.

      cheers, Paul

    • #1530969

      I use Foxit Reader: (http://ccm.net/download/download-6767-foxit-pdf-editor). From the name you’d assume that it is just a reader, but it’s a fully functional PDF editor/creator. I can download PDF forms, edit them and e-mail or print them. I can also scan documents as PDF files, single pages or multiple pages, which open directly in Foxit. Very convenient, and free, and it’s not a left-over program, it’s fully supported and updated.

      David

      • #1531023

        I use Foxit Reader: From the name you’d assume that it is just a reader, but it’s a fully functional PDF editor/creator.

        I knew about the scan but hadn’t spotted the editing ability, but I can’t add graphics so signatures are not possible.

        cheers, Paul

    • #1530987

      I use Foxit Reader: (http://ccm.net/download/download-6767-foxit-pdf-editor)


      @David

      The link you provided is for foxit editor. Is that an add on to the reader that has to be D/Led separately? I also notice that it is a trial version so there must be an expense for it.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1530998

      Sorry about that link, but I got the reader, then downloaded the editor from the Foxit Website, not some hooky Website. I have been using it for a couple of years and have never paid a penny for it. Long trial?? Maybe I should stop now lest someone in Foxit reads these posts!

      David

    • #1531247

      It depends completely on what you mean by “Edit”. If you haven’t used a PDF editor before, you might be in for a shock. PDF format is not designed to be editable.

      There are plenty of free options to manipulate whole pages – delete, reorder, rotate, etc. I use “PDF split and merge”.

      If you want to correct text there is no complete way to do it, except by going back to the source document. Any PDF text editing is limited to doing things like correcting spelling and other minor changes that do not require wholesale rearrangement of words. For bigger changes you should export the pdf to something like a word document, edit it in a proper text editor and then re-export to pdf.

      If you want to add fillable form items or insert javascript then you probably need a paid product. I gave up searching for cheap options and bought Foxit Phantom for this.

      If you want to turn a scanned image doc into searchable text then you might also need a paid version that includes OCR. Or do it outside a pdf editor.

      The Adobe release of old products was because they shut down their licence server and so people could no longer re-install products that they had purchased. Adobe’s line is that you can only install them if you have previously purchased them, so I would not like to encourage anybody to go against their copyright.

      • #1531249

        The Adobe release of old products was because they shut down their licence server and so people could no longer re-install products that they had purchased.

        Since few, if any people, would have bought Adobe Acrobat Pro 8 without installation media, I doubt the licence server status has anything to do with it. For starters, retiring the licence server wouldn’t necessitate releasing a universal license key, because any licensed user would already have one (my original key still works just fine). But that’s exactly what Adobe has done – plus they’ve provided it and authorised other sites to host the download files.

        Adobe’s line is that you can only install them if you have previously purchased them, so I would not like to encourage anybody to go against their copyright.

        Do you have an Adobe link for that?

        Cheers,
        Paul Edstein
        [Fmr MS MVP - Word]

    • #1531302

      I just don’t have to edit .pdf files but a couple times a year so I don’t really want to pay for a edit program, I now just use Adobe reader.

      Have you tried LibreOffice? Start LibreOffice and open a PDF. Voila! editable.
      You can open a PDF and change some text, but don’t expect automatic line feed as PDFs aren’t made to be editable.

      http://www.libreoffice.org

    • #1531341

      Assumption: You are starting from Acrobat Professional 8.0 and you want the English update.
      Time to complete: 90 minutes

      Use the downloads at ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobat/win/8.x/ That is where you will find the complete list of all updates (patches).
      Download all of the patches before you begin installing. It will save you time because you have to reboot after almost every patch. You do not need all of the files offered. You do need the file(s) for English. See next step.
      Your first download is AcrobatUpd810_efgj_incr.msp (Note: the “efgj” means English-French-German-Japanese.)
      Your subsequent downloads are all AcrobatUpdNNN_all_incr.msp where NNN = the update number. For example: 811, 812, 813, etc. Regrettably, most of the updates are not chained and you have to reboot after almost every install. See below for the list of files I installed.
      Installed Files: AcrobatUpdNNN_…

      810_efgi_incr.msp
      811_all_incr.msp (note: open a pdf and Adobe will offer you a ‘E-license’ file at no cost)
      812 (note:there is a 64 bit fix file in misc folder)
      813
      816 (includes 814 and 815)
      817 (this is the final 81N update)
      820
      822 (includes 821) 823
      825 (includes 824)
      826 (this is the final 82N update)
      830
      831 (this is the final 83N update)
      Adobe registration servers are not available as this product is no longer supported.

    • #1531375

      I just don’t have to edit .pdf files but a couple times a year so I don’t really want to pay for a edit program, I now just use Adobe reader.

      I’m sorta of in the same boat you are in; I have to edit PDFs six or seven times a year. After too many times of frustration, I’m trying Foxit Phantom Standard which offers a free 30 day trial. Frankly, it has done everything I’ve asked of it and I will most likely be purchasing it at the end of the 30 day free trial. I know it isn’t free, but sometimes ya gotta bite the bullet. (Best of all it isn’t buying Adobe :^_^:)

    • #1531390

      Adobe Acrobat Pro 8 runs fine on 64-bit hardware and with 64-bit Windows installations – I’ve used it that way for years.

      Note 1: If you want to use Adobe Acrobat Pro 8 as a Print Driver, you’ll need to go to Start>Devices and Printers>Adobe PDF>Right-Click>Printer Properties>Advanced, then click the ‘Print Directly to Printer’ radio button.

      Regrettably, most of the updates are not chained and you have to reboot after almost every install.

      Note 2: If you install the updates, you need to install them in order and, contrary to what is claimed in the quoted post extract, although three of them will prompt to reboot, you don’t need to do so until all of the updates are installed. Your AV software may also mis-identify a print spooler in the last few updates as potential viruses – just tell it to accept them as legit.

      Cheers,
      Paul Edstein
      [Fmr MS MVP - Word]

      • #1531392

        Adobe Acrobat Pro 8 runs fine on 64-bit hardware and with 64-bit Windows installations – I’ve used it that way for years.

        with all due respects. after an upgrade to 8.12… ONLY. see reply #23. It appears there were 64 bit issues back in the olden days and 8.0 out of the box had issues. from the ftp site, one may acquire that fix…in order …and not singularly.

        • #1531405

          with all due respects. after an upgrade to 8.12… ONLY. see reply #23. It appears there were 64 bit issues back in the olden days and 8.0 out of the box had issues. from the ftp site, one may acquire that fix…in order …and not singularly.

          You’re quite wrong about that – with all due respect, you don’t know what you’re talking about that. Just as you’re wrong in post #23 about the supposed need to reboot between most of the updates. I’ve done the lot on a 64-bit Win 7 system without rebooting between any of them.

          Cheers,
          Paul Edstein
          [Fmr MS MVP - Word]

          • #1531418

            You’re quite wrong about that – with all due respect, you don’t know what you’re talking about that. Just as you’re wrong in post #23 about the supposed need to reboot between most of the updates. I’ve done the lot on a 64-bit Win 7 system without rebooting between any of them.

            Respectfully sir, thank you and I disagree. Have a very Happy All Hallows Eve and ‘be not the pumpkin’.

          • #1531423

            You’re quite wrong about that – with all due respect, you don’t know what you’re talking about that. Just as you’re wrong in post #23 about the supposed need to reboot between most of the updates. I’ve done the lot on a 64-bit Win 7 system without rebooting between any of them.

            I preformed the install on a 32 bit Win7 system just as I described, this afternoon. There are 3 re-boots required in the install process…as I recall. With all due respect, please check your notes. Thank you. Should U still disagree…it is no big deal…get over it. I have.

    • #1531427

      As I said, you do not need to reboot. Sure, there are prompts to do so, but that is quite different from whether you actually need to so and, since you haven’t tried it, you’re not in a position to comment…

      Cheers,
      Paul Edstein
      [Fmr MS MVP - Word]

      • #1531429

        As I said, you do not need to reboot. Sure, there are prompts to do so, but that is quite different from whether you actually need to so and, since you haven’t tried it, you’re not in a position to comment…

        Sir, I did install and I did re-boot and I checked the install at every stage…just as any wise user would do. As in open… and close a good file during the upgrade process and verify it could preform correctly. I followed the process requested by the install. It was successful. I now have Adobe 8.3 for no cost other than time… and blabber.

    • #1531430

      while U may be unfamiliar with failed installs and the time to correct due to a careful analysis of how the system may preform in an operational environment (with each update)_…In other words, U ain’t been there. I have. Go Rangers!.

    • #1531458

      How is it that a thread about free PDF editors does not mention Nitro Reader Free? (info ) Despite its name, this is also a powerful PDF editor with form filling and signature adding included as standard features.

      As a Linux iuser I have a few other free choices, but I am restricting my recommendation here to Windows programs.

      -- rc primak

      • #1531534

        I’ve used Acrobat for a long time. It has a plugin for Word which I make use of often. At various times I’ve had to upgrade Acrobat so it would work with new Office versions. The free Acrobat 8.x may or may not have the Office plugins, or the plugins may or may not support all versions of Office. This is just something to be aware of if you want to try using the free Acrobat.

        • #1531611

          The free Acrobat 8.x may or may not have the Office plugins, or the plugins may or may not support all versions of Office.

          The Acrobat 8 Pro Office plugins support everything from ~Office 2000 all the way up to at least Office 2013.

          Cheers,
          Paul Edstein
          [Fmr MS MVP - Word]

    • #1531586

      I just don’t have to edit .pdf files but a couple times a year so I don’t really want to pay for a edit program, I now just use Adobe reader.

      I also need to edit PDF’s on occasion. Some good info in this conversation but I have found Foxit Reader to be the main one I use and I keep notes for myself as follows –

      “Using Foxit Reader to fill in PDF documents

      To overwrite existing text use Typewriter to create a text box to cover the unwanted text. Type any required text into the box. Box can be modified in PROPERTIES (click inside box) to be opaque so that old text can’t show through. Go to FORMAT to adjust text qualities. (click inside box to adjust fill and line colour).”

      I’ve tried lots of others (LibreOffice 4, Kingsoft, PDF-Xchange, PDF Escape on line editor, Foxit Advanced PDF Editor(good but Watermarked), CutePDF, Blueberry PDF Form Filler, etc.) and sometimes it’s necessary to use more than one 3rd party program to achieve the result I want. Anyway there’s a few to try and you may find one to do the job you want. Be aware that a couple of those have some restrictions such as page limits or watermarks.

      Good luck

    • #1531708

      I use two pdf programs regularly. One is PDF OCR X. It reads pdf files and converts them to searchable files, handy when you scan documents to pdf format. It will recognize text even within pictures. You can save to multiple formats including pdf. The community edition is free, but somewhat limited. I have the enterprise edition which lets me do batches. Link: http://www.istonsoft.com/pdf-merger.html

      The other program I use regularly is PDF Merger. I have used it to scan a complete book of marriage license application information for genealogy research. My hand scanner saves each page of the book as a pdf. I use this program to combine them all into one large pdf file. This one does not have a free version, but it does have a trial. Link: http://www.istonsoft.com/pdf-merger.html

      I scan the book page by page with a hand scanner, use PDF Merger to combine them, then use the PDF OCR X to make the file searchable. Once I am done scanning the pages, these two programs make simple and quick work out of combining and making the file searchable. When done with all the volumes I plan on posting the files on our county genealogy society website. We are talking all marriage license information from 1800 to around 1990.

      • #1531795

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        macropod and DB2013 – Many thanks for your excellent work here. Really great! It’s just what I wanted for my “new” Win 7 Pro SP1 64-bit and Win 10 Pro 64-bit machines!

        A detail from my experience installing on Win 7 Pro SP1 64-bit that might help others, and an error message along the way:

        First, the initial install program APRO23_Win_ESD1_WWEFG.exe would not complete its initial unpacking – something stopped it and generated different error messages. So I right-clicked on the exe file, hit Properties, and at bottom right I saw a message that maybe the program would be blocked because it came from unknown sources. So I hit “Unblock”, re-ran it, and it sailed through to the end.

        Second, after “applying” AcrobatUpd812_all_incr.msp, I followed DB2013’s note about “a 64 bit fix file in misc folder” that I had downloaded along with everything else. So I tried to run it — FixTransforms64bit.exe — but got an error message two times. See the attached pdf (link below) for that error message. (And that pdf was made just now on my new Acrobat 8 by “printing” from the original Wordpad rtf file !!!!)

        What do you both think about that error message? What does it mean that I could not run it?

        (Just noticed that FixTransforms64bit.exe also has an “Unblock” button. Should I “Unblock” and try to run FixTransforms64bit.exe now, or is it too late since I’ve applied all the updates through 831?)

        Thanks!

        42260-Errors-installing-Acrobat-8

      • #1532021

        I use two pdf programs regularly. One is PDF OCR X. It reads pdf files and converts them to searchable files, handy when you scan documents to pdf format. It will recognize text even within pictures. .

        I found PDF OCR X won’t run on XP but Win 7 is OK but a much better free program is “Free OCR” link – http://www.paperfile.net/ . It accepts direct from your scanner or can input an existing PDF file with output to Word or RTF and it will do all pages.

        • #1532022

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          macropod and DB2013 and dogberry – This thread is great – I’m really digging my Acrobat 8 on my new PCs.

          Now, my old XP PC has Adobe Photoshop Elements from 2001. It’s so old, it doesn’t even have a version number, and I think it uses .inf files only – nothing in the Registry. I like it because it scans real good off the WiFi printer and makes low-size jpg files. But I don’t think I can install it on my new Win 7 Pro SP1 64-bit or Win 10 Pro 64-bit machines even if I try.

          Do you guys have a newer version of Photoshop or Photoshop Elements you can lay on us like the Acrobat 8, with the registration key and everything?

          Wowee-zowee !!! Thanks.

          (PS – My old XP has Acrobat 5 !!!)

    • #1531797

      As I’ve had no need to use anything to do with DB2013’s “64 bit fix file”, it seems quite unnecessary to me. Indeed, I’d never even heard of it before DB2013 came along. The fact you’ve been able to install all the updates through to 831 seems to confirm that it’s not something you need to worry about.

      Cheers,
      Paul Edstein
      [Fmr MS MVP - Word]

    • #1531802

      Going through some old software and found a disc from some time ago with Adobe Acrobat 8.0.0 with serial number, installed without issue and just got it all updated to 8.3.1. The required restarts didn’t occur until installing 8.2.2 and later but didn’t take long.

      Before you wonder "Am I doing things right," ask "Am I doing the right things?"
    • #1531806

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      Just installed on Win 10 Pro 64-bit. Successful. But got the same error message when I tried to run FixTransforms64bit.exe, even though I Unblocked it first and tried to run it as Administrator.

    • #1531807

      But why are you trying to run FixTransforms64bit.exe?

      Cheers,
      Paul Edstein
      [Fmr MS MVP - Word]

      • #1531808

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        Paul – I don’t know – I … JUST … DON’T … KNOW …

        • #1531828

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          Paul – I don’t know – I … JUST … DON’T … KNOW …

          I didn’t install it and have no problems. It may have been included in a later update, most times such things do happen. Several years ago there was a difference in 64-bit programs, as I recall one was with AMD CPUs and the other with Itanium.

          Before you wonder "Am I doing things right," ask "Am I doing the right things?"
    • #1531822

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      It’s cause DB2013 said I should. It’s his fault.

    • #1531826

      Ignore it – bad advice IMHO.

      Cheers,
      Paul Edstein
      [Fmr MS MVP - Word]

    • #1532094

      From Techspot

      http://www.techspot.com/downloads/3689-adobe-photoshop-cs2.html

      I managed to get it from Adobe, too many links visited to figure out which one.
      I have not tried it yet. Heck knowing me I may never …;)

      :cheers:

      🍻

      Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
    • #1532123

      wavy – thanks for suggestion. But on your linked page at techspot, I see “License: Commercial”, where for the Acrobat 8 it was “License: Freeware”.

      I think that means that the 2013 Photoshop CS2 is not free.

      Let me be the first to admit – I’m a cheap guy. Might there be a free version of Photoshop somewhen between my original Photoshop Elements from WW II and your very snazzy CS2 from 2013?

      Thanks.

      • #1532129

        It does have the keys on that page.

        I also found

        http://www.techspot.com/downloads/4948-adobe-creative-suite-free.html

        again w/ a key.

        🍻

        Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
      • #1532139

        wavy – thanks for suggestion. But on your linked page at techspot, I see “License: Commercial”, where for the Acrobat 8 it was “License: Freeware”.

        I think that means that the 2013 Photoshop CS2 is not free.

        Let me be the first to admit – I’m a cheap guy. Might there be a free version of Photoshop somewhen between my original Photoshop Elements from WW II and your very snazzy CS2 from 2013?

        Thanks.

        The link is correct, the download was last updated Jan. 2013, CS2 is MUCH earlier. The key is right on the page.
        42297-Photoshop

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
        All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1532128

      I did know know it was that new. I think I got mine from an adobe page not a redirect. I see what I got is from 2007. I have no clue if the keys from Techspot will work for what I got . Maybe I will use the DL link from Techspot and dl again

      🍻

      Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
    • #1532149

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      wavy and lumpy – forgive my denseness. If the license is “commercial” but there’s a key on the page, that means it’s actually freeware? Thanks.

    • #1532151

      I’m not sure why it has a commercial listing. Possibly because it was originally commercial software.
      Click the D/L button and if you see a charge, just close it.
      I originally followed a CNET link a couple of years ago to D/L it.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1532163

      This may be a trial version, and if it’s the trial version I’m thinking of it has a lovely surprise inside: a full set of Arno Pro fonts (which you have to search for). The trial expires after a certain number of days, probably 30, but you get to keep the fonts. I may be wrong about the version, so caveat emptor.

    • #1532314

      The serial # in the screenshot I posted is the exact same serial # I have with the CS2 that I downloaded a couple of years ago.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1533971

      Thanks dogberry, resolved, I now found yr source but Adobe decided to remove the offer. Pity to have missed it.

      • #1534019

        Thanks dogberry, resolved, I now found yr source but Adobe decided to remove the offer. Pity to have missed it.

        Krebs On Security blog had a pieceyesterday on the touchy subject of questionable sources and one Big Name.

        Google (another Big Name) is where most of us find ‘free’ software, but we have no idea whether the source is reputable or not, although ‘free’ itself often means there are strings attached. With the one thing I did look for a download for, several different sources stated that it had been released as freeware (I can’t recall whether it was ‘open source’ or not, which would make a big difference). It might be a hassle for Google to try very hard to filter software downloads when they have so much stronger stuff to filter.

        All of these programs came on CDs or floppies ‘or something’. I have OS2/Warp3, unopened, I think, Windows 95 complete with two different keychains – collectors’ items, I’m sure, and so on. Downloading is boring, but yard sales are exercise and adventure.

        Scribus is an open source program that might interest you.

        • #1534274

          All of these programs came on CDs or floppies ‘or something’. I have OS2/Warp3, unopened, I think, Windows 95 complete with two different keychains – collectors’ items, I’m sure, and so on. Downloading is boring, but yard sales are exercise and adventure.

          .

          OMG a hoarder! 😉

          :cheers:

          🍻

          Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.
        • #1534528

          Scribus is an open source program that might interest you.

          Thanks dogberry I do have Scribus but an old version of Pagemaker is the one I require because I received a large qty of p65 files from a lady that used to be into DTP.
          I want to play with these files and nothing else can open them. I read somewhere that I can change extension .p65 to .pmd and a later version of Pagemaker will open them.
          I’ll just have to go on searching.

    • #1534542

      I am very happy that this thread has let me install the free Acrobat 8 on my dual-booting Win 7 Pro SP1 and Win 10 Pro (both 64-bit) PC. BUT three problems:

      A) In Win 7, autoruns was indicating that pdfshell.dll was a missing file. So, per advice in the Adobe forums, I did a repair of Acrobat twice. First from the Acrobat Help dropdown menu, and second time from Win 7’s Programs and Features. That fixed the missing pdfshell.dll, but I now have my other problem in Win 7. (Pdfshell.dll was not missing in Win 10.)

      B) Now, in Win 7, I just tried to print something from a browser Print This window. (Never had a problem printing from that window before, which is from my bank – used it a million times.) In the Windows print window, I selected Adobe PDF as my printer (which is Acrobat 8), but the Properties button did nothing. I could not select B&W vs color or Portrait vs Landscape. When I went to print, it printed to a pdf which I saved, but I could no longer make those choices.

      C) Third issue — in Win 10, in Task Manager, in the Startup tab, Acrotray is showing (good), but if you expand it, there is another startup item called “N”. That’s right, just the letter “N”. Cannot find “N” as a file anywhere on my machine, and it does NOT show later in the running processes. What is this? See a related thread on the Adobe forum here (which has a screenshot of the issue): https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1820234

      Any thoughts on these two remaining problems B) and C)? Thanks.

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