Undocumented patches KB 3177723, KB 3179573 and KB 3179574 just appeared

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KB 3177723 is an “Important, High Priority, Non-Security, Update Rollup” for Win7, Win8.1, and a massive bunch of other versions (Windows RT 8.1, Wind
[See the full post at: Undocumented patches KB 3177723, KB 3179573 and KB 3179574 just appeared]

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Hi there! I was updating my w7 pro minutes ago and found these updates as well, no info at all. I put them on ice for a while. I’m waiting for some feedback!

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KB3177723
August 2016 DST and time zone update

KB3179573/KB3179574
August 2016 update rollup
do not replace July rollup

and the rollup is actually documented very well
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/22801
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/24717

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By the way, I’d like to THANK YOU. I refer to askwoody.com every month for my w7 updates. It’s always a journey, but since I installed the july roll up KB3172605, it’s definitely better! it used to take eternity to search and install! Thanks for your wonderful site!!!

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I just received these as well- As I know longer trust MS, having almost been a part of their dupe to install win 10 and the junk that is/was. As such, I would be most appreciative if you could give me more info on these updates when able.

thank you-
respectfully
mB

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Now releasing updates with no descriptions of what they do. Lovely. I waste my own time protecting my Win7 Ultimate that has been running problem free since 2010. Windows 8 obviously failed, now another “app” oriented tablet OS called Windows 10 is being shoved down our throat. Its allot like buying a car and loving it, and having car companies steal them back to give you another car that will cost you more money fill their already fat pockets. Of course since the grey-haired fatties that run this country “know” the car business, this won’t ever happen. Since these same grey-haired fatties don’t understand technology, ah, what the hell, as long as my pockets are lined with money from turning my liver-spotted check, go for it.

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Thanks!

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I’m getting ready to rollback to Win 7 Pro from Win 10 Pro 64-bit (w/o the AU installed).

For the rollback process to work, is the machine required to have an Internet connection?

I ask, as I don’t want any patches to sneak in before I can lock things down as best I can.

Thanks!

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You should be able to roll back without connecting to the internet.

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I had the very same questions I got 2 updates one says Important and other optional would like to know if you get more info please thanx very much.

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So where do you get the information that KB3177723 contains “August 2016 DST and time zone update”? Do you have any references for that?

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Abbodi has intuitive powers approaching that of Carnac the Magnificent…

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Thanks for the info. I wonder that the desc for 3177723 is so well guarded.

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KB 3177723 now exists (the link you have goes to it now), and it is indeed a time zone update, apparently. “High priority” because without it clocks would be wrong in an entire country, which I admit is significant.

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KB3177723
2016 – Egypt cancels DST

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The update history page will be only for rollup updates, not all updates

KB3177723 article is up now

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https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3177723

Found via DuckDuckGo.

Not listed when searched via Google.

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You have 30 days to roll back from the time of your upgrade to Win 10. Don’t forget to back up your data. Here’s a step by step explanation: http://www.cnet.com/how-to/windows-10-how-to-roll-back/

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Thanks @abbodi86.
Just feedback for Woody, not a recommendation to install, please wait for Woody’s MS-DEFCON. Patches for Windows 7 and Office 2013 installed here without visible problems.

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ERavn: it also shows when you highlight the patch and click the “More Information” link in the right-hand side of the page, Abbodi’s superhuman powers notwithstanding. 🙂

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I can see that KB3177723 supersedes KB3162835 – June 2016 DST and time zone update for Windows.
So what else can KB3177723 be? 🙂

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From https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/22801/windows-7-and-windows-server-2008-r2-update-history

“We recommend installing all updates for Windows that are available for your device.”

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Ach, Carnac the Magnificent exposed!

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Or you could try this:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3074096/microsoft-windows/hit-by-an-unexpected-windows-10-upgrade-heres-how-to-recover.html

One for the Home Team….

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Cool. Go Ducks!

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Applies to KB3177723 (removes the DST adjustment for Egypt Standard Time starting in 2016.)

Note When you apply this update, you may receive a message that resembles the following:

Update cannot be installed as a newer or same time zone update has already been installed on the system.

This message indicates that either you have already applied the correct update or Windows Updates or Microsoft Update has automatically installed this update. No additional action is required to update the Windows operating system.

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Further details for Windows updates KB3177723, KB3179573, and KB3179574 may be found in the kb articles mentioned above or in a blog post http://goo.gl/0uZEH7 I’ve compiled.

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I don’t see kb3179573 documented “very well”. When I look at https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/22801 and click on kb3179573, I see two key changes listed, with language clearly indicating that this is not the complete list.

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Dear Woody:

I, along with many of the posters here on your site, have been building/maintaining PCs and/or PC networks for some time. In my case, 30+ years. In all that time, there have been few problems I haven’t been able to fix, hardware or software, either on my own or with the assistance of others.

I’d just like to express my sincere thanks to you and your extended “team.”

Here’s something I posted a few days ago (ironically enough, on a site that supports Microsoft Flight Simulator in its many iterations:

“If it hasn’t already been mentioned, my advice is to go to http://www.askwoody.com and read about slow Windows Updates and how to get it fixed.

I was reformatting and updating 2 identical 2009 HP laptops from Win 7 Home Premium x64 non-SP1 recovery disks to Windows 10 before the freebie offer ran out.

I was almost to the point of crushing boulders barehanded before I stumbled on his site.

ETA: This guy is a regular contributor to infoworld.com and knows whereof he speaks (writes).”

Again, thanks for all your (and your compadres’) hard work in keeping some of us sane. 🙂

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Now that Microsoft has bundled patches, who knows what else could conceivably be included?

The old rules don’t apply anymore.

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I find all this so confusing (rollups, updates). So it sounds like I still should not be downloading these things. Is that right? I used to like working on my computer, it’s my hobby, I’m a senior. But now it seems I have to know a lot about them, which I don’t. I still have the GWX Control panel on my computer. Should I still have it there? I’m getting so frustrated I don’t know what to do. MS go away and leave my computer alone and let me live out my days playing and having fun. After all I paid for WIN 7 and it’s on my computer. I don’t want WIN 10.

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I think you only get 10 days to revert back to the previous OS if you install the AU.

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Correct – although it isn’t clear to me if 31 days or 10 days applies in the case of upgrading Win7 (or 8.1) directly to Win10 AU.

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Drop Everything!! Important! Important!
MS, are you F.kidding me? “Egypt cancels DST” is the big Important patch that couldn’t wait for Patch Tuesday, had to be released out of band? I do not think that word (important) means what you think it means.

Of course even MS shows they don’t think it’s important , because they are releasing it over a month late! Egypt canceled DST on July 4th, so they could have put the patch in the July 12th Patch Tuesday lump, or failing that, it would have been totally easy to get it in the August Patch Tuesday, right? And having failed at that, shows how little regard they have for this patch, meaning it should have waited for September.

“Out of band” patches are supposed to be those that are too important to wait for the next Patch Tuesday.

I don’t know why MS hates me so much, what did I ever do to them?

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Just watch the MS-DEFCON rating. When things are OK to patch, there will be full instructions.

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Click on the top link.

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Good summary!

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Thank you so much!

Early indications look good. Windows 7 Pro appears to be back ( and no network connection required ).

Salud 😉

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🙂 I was wondering that about Egypt, too.

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[whew]

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The misery never stops!

The rollback appeared complete (with zero connection to ANY network). The system rebooted back into Win 7 Pro.

OK! Great!

NOT!

I click “Shut Down” and now I’m looking at a screen saying ” Please do not power your off or unplug your machine. Installing update 10 of 10″

🙁

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It sounds like you’re talking about the link that I mentioned clicking on (August 16/kb3179573). If you’re talking about a different link, I don’t know which one.

BTW, thanks for all your help. I’ve been reading this site regularly since MS got pushy with WIN 10. It’s saved me a lot of hassle.

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Sorry – should’ve been more specific. On https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/22801/windows-7-and-windows-server-2008-r2-update-history

Click the down arrow next to the first line. Here’s what it says:

This update includes quality improvements. No new operating system features are being introduced in this update. Key changes include:

Improved performance on specific networks that have a high-bandwidth and low latency.
Addressed issue with users encountering a bugcheck, when trying to access a domain DFS namespace (for example, \contoso.comSYSVOL) on a computer that is configured to require mutual authentication (by using the UNC Hardened Access feature).

This problem may occur if the selected domain controller has security update KB3161561 installed, and if the SmbServerNameHardeningLevel registry entry is configured to a non-zero value on the domain controller.

For more info about how to get this update and a complete list of affected files, see KB3179573.

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… and what happens next … ?

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Yep. That’s the info I referenced. Only two changes mentioned, and the language indicates that there are other, unmentioned, changes.

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Installed KB3177723. No problem on my end; however, I’m still reluctant to install KB3179573. My rule is: always make a recent, full backup of your operating system. I never rely on system restore. In fifteen minutes, my PC is exactly as it was before. People should invest in reliable backup software. It’s worth every penny.

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WE recommend you don’t listen to (and believe everything from) Microsoft. 😉

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Woody, I clicked on the long link that you provided in your reply to wrangler below, and all I got was a blank page.

Clicking on “More information” for KB3179573 leads to a webpage that promises to give more information on another page, which in turn gives a hyperlink where we might finally “learn all” about the update — but I end up on a blank page there, too.

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Just a short addendum – some of my German blog readers reported printing issues on a print server with HP printer driver. Till now I haven’t found other users having this issue. But I’ve added a note with details to the blog post linked above. Maybe other users are facing the same issue.

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When Microsoft sends its updates, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending updates that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems to us. They’re bringing bugs. They’re bringing spies. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good updates.

I will build a great great luxurious (fire)wall in our computers and I’ll have Microsoft pay for that (fire)wall.

Make computers great again.

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🙂 🙂 🙂

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🙂

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Weird. What do you see here?

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/22801/windows-7-and-windows-server-2008-r2-update-history

I’m getting through on both Firefox and Chrome.

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ch100 knows that situation better than most….

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Oh I see what you’re saying. Yep, the docs are sparse. Microsoft has done this for years, though…

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Well, there are 2 issues here.
1. For those in Egypt is really important because time synchronisation causes so many problems in Windows and not only in Active Directory domains. Even Windows Update can be affected by bad time.
2. Being a rollup (cumulative) update, it is recommended to be installed by everyone to simplify the wuauserv/svchost.exe calculations performed while scanning in relation to superseded updates.
And a third consideration. Is it urgent for anyone who has no connection with Egypt? Can wait and should wait until MS-DEFCON clears it, but it is still recommended to be installed if it proves to be functional for the reason mentioned at item 2.

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🙂

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Ah, but the Egypt DST change is not part of the two update rollups. Another thing that strikes me as odd. Article coming in InfoWorld momentarily.

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Woody, when can we expect to find the latest MS-DEFCON ?

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I’m still at MS-DEFCON 2. We’ve had problems with three patches so far this month. I’m waiting to see if they settle down. I’m also trying to figure out what to recommend, given the big changes coming in October.

No big push to install updates this month, as long as you stay away from the Evil Three: IE, Flash and Acrobat Reader.

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https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3177723

A hot fix for Egypt’s sudden change of DST observance.

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There are also optional non-security rollup updates for July and August which I have not installed. Are we supposed to go back and get these older optional rollups in addition to the “important” 3177723? I’m beginning to think my next computer will be an Apple.

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It is a different rollup (cumulative update), the one for time zones! Apparently we will have to get used to them.
From Microsoft Catalog:
Classification: Update Rollups
This update replaces the following updates (under Package Details tab):
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2633952)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2756822)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2779562)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2794119)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2863058)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2890882)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2904266)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2922717)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2981580)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2998527)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3013410)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3049874)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3077715)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3112148)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3148851)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3153731)
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3162835)

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I use Foxit Reader, but I think did install the latest update for IE. Would you suggest that I uninstall it?

I use Firefox as my browser, but I was under the impression that I must keep IE updated. Not so?

David Vickery

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Yes, you must keep IE updated – sooner or later.

Foxit Reader is not as prone to infection as Acrobat Reader. No reason to uninstall it.

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Oy. Nice of them to mention that in the KB article….

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At this point I don’t see any reason to install any of the non-security patches.

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Just to confirm that you’re right Woody – I even got KB3177723 on a Windows XP Embedded (POS Ready 2009) as a Hi Priority (out-of-band) update (no mention of Security update). Size 523Kb. Now I’m ready for Egypt’s Time-Zone – if my computer ever leaves Canada. Ha !

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Woody, that was the same page that led me to a blank page when I clicked on the link for KB3179573. But I figured out what was going on: typically what I do is RIGHT-click on a link to open it in a new tab, so as not to lose the current page. Doing that is what leads to the blank page.

But LEFT-clicking on the link displays the text for KB3179573 on the same page.

However, I discovered this by sheer chance. There’s nothing on the page to suggest the presence of hidden text. Why can’t they use one of those little arrow/triangles that indicate to the reader that there is hidden text right on that page?

One last note: the KB3179573 page shows up in my Internet Explorer, but not in my Firefox.

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Important, high priority… Yeah right, for those that deal with egypt. As for the rest of us, it’s another for the ‘hide’ folder.

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As far as KB3179573, I bet they are trying to implement (or, at least, MS doing their part to assist with) net neutrality. Until my computer guy (and fellow huge opponent of net neutrality) tells me that it’s probably okay, I’m going to hide the “update”. This is one more step for me going the Linux route.

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This is a list of files included in KB3179573 for win 7&Server

x64 Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2
File name,File version,File size,Date,Time,Platform,
Tcpipreg.sys,”6.1.7601.23496″,”46,080″,”07-Jul-2016″,”15:08″,”x64″,
Inetcomm.dll,”6.1.7601.23491″,”976,896″,”01-Jul-2016″,”15:31″,”x64″,
Inetres.dll,”6.1.7601.23491″,”84,480″,”01-Jul-2016″,”15:31″,”x64″,
Netio.sys,”6.1.7601.23496″,”377,576″,”07-Jul-2016″,”15:36″,”x64″,
Srvnet.sys,”6.1.7601.23491″,”168,960″,”01-Jul-2016″,”14:56″,”x64″,
Srv.sys,”6.1.7601.23491″,”464,896″,”01-Jul-2016″,”14:56″,”x64″,
Srv2.sys,”6.1.7601.23491″,”405,504″,”01-Jul-2016″,”14:56″,”x64″,
Fwpkclnt.sys,”6.1.7601.23496″,”287,976″,”07-Jul-2016″,”15:36″,”x64″,
Tcpip.sys,”6.1.7601.23496″,”1,896,168″,”07-Jul-2016″,”15:36″,”x64″,
Inetcomm.dll,”6.1.7601.23491″,”741,888″,”01-Jul-2016″,”15:13″,”x86″,
Inetres.dll,”6.1.7601.23491″,”84,480″,”01-Jul-2016″,”15:13″,”x86″,
full list is there:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/F/7/C/F7C0C84C-EFEC-4A5D-B2BD-A8DCED10732C/3179573.csv

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AHA! Odd. I’ll remember that.

IE vs Firefox… yeah, I hear ya… I still can’t open many sites in microsoft.com from a link, while using Chrome.

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Unfortunately not mentioned in the KB article. It was the same behaviour few months ago with the Azerbaidjan time zone update, or the Russian time zones update. They were all rollups including the previous time zones and for those avoiding those patches adding overhead to the slow scanning issue.

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Sunuvagun. So it’s been that way all along! I had no idea….

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The functional result of those timezone patches may be incremental and not required for most regular users, but it may or may not count when it comes to Windows Update. Based on what I know, I would say it is safer to have them installed.

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… installed when the time comes, no urgency obviously.

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According to MS Knowledge base (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3177723)KB3177723 resolves the following:

Egypt has permanently canceled its observation of daylight savings time (DST). The DST adjustment for this year was scheduled to begin on Friday, July 8, 2016, at midnight (24:00). This change affects the following time zone.

Time zone key name Display name
Egypt Standard Time (UTC+02:00) Cairo

This update applies to the following operating systems:

Windows Server 2012 R2
Windows Server 2012
Windows 8.1
Windows Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1 (SP1)
Windows 7 SP1
Windows Server 2008 Service Pack 2 (SP2)
Windows Vista SP2

Unbelievable!

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Hello woody,

Turned off all updates to my Win 7SP1 in January following the debacle of Win 10 upgrades, Telemetry, et al.

Still using the PC and NO problems as at 14th August.

As a retired engineer, I learnt early that if it isn’t broken, don’t fix it & so I didn’t.

So as you say, do not install ANY optional or recommended updates unless you have a specific issue.

Having said that, thought I should reconsider my decision to not install Security updates. First I ran WU, got tired of waiting so turned it off again & had another few days of peace. Secondly, sat down in front of the PC & manually compiled a list of Security Updates for my PC using 2 sites:

MS Security Bulletin Summary:-

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/security/dn631938.aspx

MS Update Catalogue:-

http://test.catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/DownloadInformation.aspx

Took a while to understand, but swiftly developed a method that worked for me. Took me 2 x 8 hour days to create a (surprisingly short) list which I validated by running WU overnight. The lists were identical.

So why such a short list after 7 months of no security updates being installed. It’s simple – so many of “this months” updates supersede “last months”.

So what have I learnt:

1 Only install Security Updates, but wait one month before so doing.
2 As such you do not install superseded updates, plus MS have time to enter update details on the above 2 sites.
3 This lets you manually compile your updates (around 2 hours), removes the search for monthly fixes to long running WU & reduces adding to the number of superseded updates already on your system.

I can now return to enjoying my retirement.

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Hello Woody,

I found your website in June of this year and have been following it, on and off, since then. Thanks to you, I learned about the telemetry update(s) that MS sneaked in and uninstalled them. Anyway, I’m not sure if this the right place to ask my question, but here it goes.

With the exception of the occasionally MS Office and IE updates, I haven’t updated my computer since May. I wanted to know if you, or any of your knowledgeable readers, could tell me which updates are safe to install? These are the updates that are showing up:

Security Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems
KB3161561
KB3161958
KB3164033
KB3164035
KB3167679
KS3168965
KB3170455
KD3177725
KB3178034

Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems
KB3161102
KB3172605
KB3179573

Any help would be greatly appreciated. And thank you for your time.

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At this point, the June and July security patches should be OK, but other than that I wouldn’t install anything. I’m still trying to figure out how the current round of updates will morph as we head to the complete change in October.

That said, I think KB2952664 (which isn’t on your list) is well worth avoiding.

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It is not clear what the effects of the Recommended and Optional updates have over the performance of Windows Update scanning which tends to be slow sometimes. I am in favour of installing them all for the additional features that they bring, but they are not technically required and many people are concerned with the Telemetry additions that they install. The Telemetry can be controlled for most of it and it is documented by Microsoft and the procedures have been posted here many times. At minimum, CEIP should be disabled. Some people consider that additional Scheduled Tasks need to be disabled too. The problem is that this is not clearly documented and one has to dig deep to find out and this raises suspicions. Microsoft is interested in keeeping it enabled as it allows them to tune Windows and Office based on feedback from a large number of users.
All Important Updates have to be installed though to be in a supported state. There is some confusion about what Important Updates mean. They are those under Security (all of them) and some of the Updates. If you do not select “Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates”, everything under important is required. That selction can be switched on and off without rescanning and you will notice the difference.
There is no point in choosing numbers now (this can change at any time and it will certainly be flagged here if this is the case), except for one specific update which I have currently installed but it is still recommended to keep it under control at least for a while. This is the one that Woody mentioned, KB2952664 which is not harmful by itself, but is/was the prerequisite for about everything related to Windows 10 upgrade additional patches, now withdrawn.

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Thank you, Woody.

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KB3179574 causes my wife’s keyboard to go into Dvorak mode, bizarrely. Lenovo Z580 Win8.1 – key pressed generates multiple chars, eg “e” generates “er”

Difficulty quoting password to logon; this can be resolved by revealing password & back-keying

Cannot resolve using keyboard dialogues.

Resolved only using System Restore, but now I can’t apply that bucket of patches

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Hi DocJ,

A while back, a lot of patches were identified as containing Windows 10 preparation or telemetry etc. KB 3107998 was on some of these lists, so perhaps you deleted it. It said it removed USB blockers on Lenovo PC’s.

Suggest you check it out.

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Hi Old Dog
Thanks so far, and an apology for inaccuracy. Maintaining too many PCs at once – duh!

Affected PC is HP Pavilion (nothing to do with Lenovo) running 8.1, so KB 3107998 is irrelevant. Mea culpa as they said in Roman times

Doesn’t seem related to Updates after all, that took me on the wrong track

Double-char problem (& some keys invoke web page) occurs after particularly slow startups & lasts for 20 mins then suddenly clears. Not sure if this sequence always takes place

We use Norton security to delay startup items for 5 mins, but can’t see any items in there that are relevant

Standard keyboard set to English(UK), no plug-ins, no other languages, nothing fancy

Haven’t confirmed whether problem occurs after “Shutdown+Start” or just “Restart” – have been “strongly advised” by PC owner not to turn it off for now

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@Woody: In re: KB3179573:

Since everything has changed because of the new MS rules (the Group A & Group B thing), I am wondering about the KB3179573. I had a note that it fixed a June Security Patch, however is “optional” and not checked.

Looking at all of the various items included in this “roll-up” patch is it okay to check it and install it now? It’s the only update I have remaining to install from the August updates.

I think the “advice” has changed and just would like to verify it.

Thank you for your help, as always. 🙂

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If you figure you’re going to be in “Group A,” yeah, you might as well install them all now. If you’re thinking about “Group B,” though, only install the security patches.

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Thank you, Woody, I appreciate the guidance. I’m like many others and not really quite decided which option I will decide upon. Thank you again for your help. 🙂

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I’d like to see some info on the latest good freeware designed to backup entire drives (bit image backup), not the sloppiness that MS Backup does.

I am using one such utility now, but always want to seesomething better, of course.

FZ

“Welcome to computing 101: you will most likely lose.”

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Not sure what you’re after when you say “good”, but Clonezilla Live has been around for years and images have worked for me in the past. I normally use True Image on my windows machines, but past the 2013 version it’s pretty awful.

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I’m using Macrium Reflect – the free version. It works well, creates compressed images, and does “differential” (like daily) backups. Also, I often “mount” an older backup image, which appears as a new drive letter, and I can retrieve an older copy of a file that I may need.

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Here’s one more to consider. Shadowprotect4 produced by Storagecraft. Differential, incremental, full, automated scheduling, lot of capability.

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