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    I’m not sure if my problem is a Windows problem but suspect that is the case because a number of unrelated installed programs have been affected by a recent change.

    I am running 64 bit WIN 10 Pro ver 22H2 on a Dell XPS 8950 desktop with a 12th Gen Intel Core i5-12600K  3.70 GHz processor.  I have a 4T SSD C: drive.  An analysis showed the drive to be 90% in use, which was highly suspect, as I have a separate 6T HD data drive.  My initial attempt to free up space included:

    • Uninstalling unused programs
    • Using AOMEI Partition Assistant to move seldom used programs to another drive, leaving only a link that made Windows operate as if the program was still on the C: drive

    Surprisingly this only increased free space by a few percentage points.  I therefore used the same program to reverse the process and return all of the moved files back to the C: drive.

    I was then able to drill down to see the size of all files still on the C: drive.  I found that a file labeled HandyBackup was using 3T of my C: drive.  I use HandyBackup ver 8.0 to do a daily data backup with files stored on a third drive (2T NVMe SSD).

    In a recent Ask Woody newsletter (9/25/23), Deanna McElveen praised a program, Uninstalr, for its versatility.  I was intrigued, especially by the program’s ability to find and remove leftover references to previously uninstalled programs.  I used this program to uninstall a few leftover references as well as to uninstall the massive file labeled HandyBackup.  The removal was successful.

    A few days later I started having trouble with programs that were previously installed and previously working as expected.  Several of these installed programs refused to open or gave error messages when trying to open.  I’ve had to reinstall these programs.  Some of the re-installs proceeded correctly but many did not.  I then began to suspect that the file labled HandyBackup was not solely the actual HandyBackup program but contained some essential Windows files.

    I examined the error messages from some of these failing programs to see any information that might help.  One such error message pointed to a file that was missing (ose.exe).  I secured a copy  and stored it in the appropriate Windows directory.  This did not help.  Other error messages gave me hints as to other missing files.  In an attempt to restore any and all missing Windows files, I have re-installed WIN 10 with an option to not delete personal files.  This did not help.

    I am at a loss as to what to try next.  I am writing to many of the companies that provided the software that is now no longer working to see if they have any suggestions.  I would also appreciate any suggestions from Ask Woody readers who have taken the time to wade through this story.

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    • #2593294

      Uninstalr,

      Uninstalr is not to be trusted. It caused BSOD on my PC. Others had too problems after running the software.

      There is nothing you can do after the app botched your PC except for
      restoring your PC from (full image) backup. Hope you have one.

      https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/uninstalr-worlds-best-cup-of-coffee/

    • #2593320

      Use TreeView free to find out what is using the space on your drive.

      To fix Windows, install over the top – after making an image backup of course (Aomei works well).
      Got a misbehaving Windows 10? reinstall

      cheers, Paul

    • #2593381

      I would do a repair install over the top.

      Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

      • #2593389

        The OP will have to reinstall all his apps.

        • #2593490

          Not so. Reinstall over the top retains your apps, but some may be corrupt for other reasons and require reinstall.

          cheers, Paul

          • #2593573

            I appreciate all of the Ask Woody folks who have taken the time to read and respond to my post.  As I had mentioned, I did reinstall Win 10 Pro including all updates through 22H2.  Paul T:  I had already found the file hogging my C: drive and uninstalled/deleted it, which, I believe, is the source of my problems.  I confess, I am not sure of what it means to “reinstall over the top”. If this recommendation is for other than the WIN 10 reinstall I have already performed without success, I would appreciate further information.  Thanks again to all who have replied.

    • #2593599

      See my reply post as a guest.

    • #2593761

      I am not sure of what it means to “reinstall over the top”.

      See the link in my post above (#2593320).

      cheers, Paul

    • #2593813

      I ran into a similar problem after trying Uninstalr and discovered the problem was it removed a bunch of references to Microsoft Visual C++ libraries that were being used by programs I’d previously uninstalled but were still need by “other” programs.

      In my case, I had a recent “full image backup” and was able to fix things by restoring it over the now messed up version.

      If you don’t have such an image to restore things back to where they were before they got messed up, then, if the option is available (not all installed programs have it), you can try to “repair” the misbehaving programs.

      Open Programs and Features (WinKey + R enter appwiz.cpl and hit return) and then right-click a program that’s not launching properly.

      If “repair” is one of the available options for that program, select it and see if that restored full functionality.

      If there’s no “repair” option, you can also try simply “reinstalling” the program over the existing copy (i.e. do not uninstall it first.)

      Good luck!

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      Thank you all for your comments and suggestions.  I finally decided to re-install WIN10 “over the top”.   Paul T:  Unfortunately I could not find a way to keep my installed programs.  The reinstall did keep my personal files.  I keep all of the original setup files and activation keys for my installed programs so generally it has not been a problem re-installing the apps.  Some required updates from the original installation versions.  Some required securing new keys.  Other than being time consuming I have been able to reinstall most of my previously installed programs (and realized I had a lot of “let’s see what they can do” applications I am not reinstalling).

      I still have one issue I could use some help resolving.  I have several legacy VB6 programs that I need to maintain.  I have been transitioning to VB.Net but there is still one program complicated enough that I have been taking my time in attempting to convert.  As I’m sure all of you know, VB6 does not get along well with WIN10 Pro.  I have had to reinstall VB6 several times when I upgraded machines and C:\ drives.  I had a work around to install VB6 that allowed my to reinstall the program in the past.  That work around has failed me this time.  In my search I have found several references to a VB6Installer touted as a quick and simple way to do the reinstall.   Unfortunately the author’s website no longer provides a download or activation.  My original workaround included deletion of files and registry entries from previous install attempts and adding a zero byte file to abort a Java install.  Does anyone have a suggestion as to another VB6 reinstall workaround.  Thanks for your time,

      • #2595081

        I’d start a new thread for that question.

        cheers, Paul

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