What to tell someone who was unceremoniously upgrade to Win10 this weekend

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Woody, you absolutely nailed this one. It’s too bad Malwaresoft has no intention of listening to anyone about their sleazy tactics.

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BTW Paul Thurrott is saying today that reserving a future Win10 digital entitlement by upgrading and then rolling back may not be without issues… See https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/67333/confronting-achilles-heel-free-windows-10-upgrade-strategy.html

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Disconcerting. If Paul can’t wrangle an official response out of Microsoft, nobody can.

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One wonders if Microsoft is noticing the preliminary KB2952664 is installed and then sees that KB3123862 and KB3035583 are hidden.
Microsoft then takes KB3123862 out of hiding when running and installing updates and then runs KB3035583. You are now eligible to “upgrade” to Windows 10. So the upgrade runs.

Only GWX Control Panel Monitor is preventing this behavior.

I have had Microsoft take a couple of my hidden updates at times and install them on my machine. Those hidden updates were due to conflicts between Windows 7 and the Nvidia card I am using. It is definitely very lousy behavior from Microsuck. (Sucks time and money)

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Got a 404 on that link.

One below works.

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/67333/confronting-achilles-heel-free-windows-10-upgrade

On the product key issue for Windows 7, users may use NirSoft’s ProduKey which queries the registry and will return the keys for IE, Office, and Windows 7. Description states it works on Windows 8, as well. Antivirus software may report a false positive with ProduKey. I use Panda and got no flag.

ProduKey is described in the howtogeek article. Download links via the NirSoft page link at bottom. It’s a small program that doesn’t require installation.

http://www.howtogeek.com/206329/how-to-find-your-lost-windows-or-office-product-keys

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/product_cd_key_viewer.html

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The only reason that is holding me back from upgrading to Windows 10 is that there is no way to set Windows Update client not to automatically install the drivers that are incompatible with my 7 years old desktop PC.
If I could install the old drivers without Windows Update client automatically installing newer versions of those drivers that are incompatible with my old hardware then I would be fine with upgrading.

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See

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3053701/microsoft-windows/block-windows-10-forced-updates-without-breaking-your-machine-part-2.html

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Yep, but if you can’t boot to your brand-new Win10 machine, yer kinda up a creek….

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One of my Windows 7 machines (Ultimate) was unceremoniously upgraded to Win10. It’s a 6 year old Alienware M11x R2. It worked at first, then I began having issues. Log ins, normally went through a sleep period before I could get to the log in screen. Then I had a couple shut downs – so much for WinX stability on this computer. There is also no Windows 10 driver for the 1394 port.

I decided to go back to Windows 7, so I followed the steps to take it back. When that process completed, Windows 7 refused to start. Numerous boot attempts later, I realized that I would need to format the hard disk and load everything from scratch. The Alienware website was clear that the M11x R2 was not tested with Windows 10.

Rather than reformat the drive, I replaced it with a Samsung 850 PRO SSD with 32 level V-NAND. I followed this with a clean install of Windows 7 Ultimate and reloaded my other software.

With the V-NAND SSD, this computer now cold boots in less than 50 seconds and performs much better than it did with the spinning disk. I am positive that I do not want this computer to “upgrade” to Windows 10 again!

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Do you remember the details of the rolled-back Win7 refusing to start?

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“What to tell someone who was unceremoniously upgraded to Win10 this weekend … You probably clicked on something you shouldn’t have”

Probably? When (eventually) faced with a dialog box headed, “Great, we’ll get the upgrade started”, they clicked “Accept”!

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As noted in the article, that EULA dialog box is far from a full disclosure.

You can see the reaction to this uptick in installation aggressiveness, all over the web, even the broader media. Microsoft may have raked in 50 million more upgrades. But at what cost to the company’s reputation?

Microsoft needs many more carrots, fewer sticks.

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Wow, just read the last few entries on your blog and the associated articles. I’ve already opted out of running Windows at home 90% of the time, running Linux instead. Now, after reading the horror stories of people who were upgraded without consent, it’s to the point when if I do boot under Windows, to simply do the work I need to do and get out. I’ve got GWX Control Panel on it, but with the crap MS is pulling now, I wonder if we can even trust that.

Thanks for keeping us in the loop, Woody.

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