Windows 10 Breaks Scheduled IDrive Process Already in Progress

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With Windows 10 “Power & sleep settings” set to turn off the computer at 2 hours, any non-Windows, 3rd-party software process is killed without preamble. It doesn’t matter whether or not the 3rd-party software is a big or little publisher.

This is ridonculous. The 3rd-party processes were started long before the 2 hour countdown. Is there a hidden setting by Microsoft in “Power & sleep settings” which will prevent this baloney? Thank you.

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Hello, Ask Woodyites,

Coming up on 48 hours after I’ve posted this, there are no replies. My past experience with Ask Woody suggests that there might not be any forthcoming. I’ve already implemented a cumbersome workaround as a pseudo-solution.

/s/ The Rowdy Mystic, a.k.a He-Who-Sometimes-Goes-by-Tongue-in-Cheek Names

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Try setting Hybrid Sleep mode to on.

I never shut down my PC and only shut down the screen after 15 min.

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Mr. Austin

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Alex5723 wrote:

Try setting Hybrid Sleep mode to on.

Thanks. I didn’t know about that setting. And the “Windows computer closes all apps when going to Standby or Sleep” article link you sent has steps I hadn’t heard of.

Before I step through the article’s suggestions I see that Hybrid sleep is already enabled. The 240 mins (4 hours) I’d set is to keep the computer awake while the IDrive job finishes. IDrive support said it doesn’t have a better setting or workaround for this one.

Human, who sports only naturally-occurring DNA ~ oneironaut ~ broadcaster

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I too have some scheduled tasks like Acronis image updates, Shadow copy…so sleep and hib are off.

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So, Alex, at that page link you provided were command line batch file scripts for SFC and DISM. I ran them and they completed successfully, although I generally steer around DOS although I know a few very basic things about it.  After they completed I rebooted the machine, and then changed its Sleep setting to 2 hours instead of 4. And when iDrive ran (unattended), it took two cloud upload hours (slow upload speeds are normal for our asymmetric internet connection) and the machine didn’t shut down. So after those repairs, Windows worked one time in row, and that’s a good sign. Additional testing is needed.

Aside but related… methinks when Microsoft knew that Windows 11 was on the horizon it (Microsoft) stopped caring about Windows 10. That Windows 10 couldn’t do what it’s supposed to do, and keep itself awake for good software processes is unacceptable. Likewise, there were reports here on Ask Woody that the Create a Restore Point functions were breaking on enough machines to make it suspicious for me. One of my machines could no longer create restore points. So I simply abandoned using that function, and took up other strategies of daily disc imaging and file history backup using products which are not Microsoft’s. Need solved.

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Alex5723

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Local processes on the (formerly affected) machine are now testing OK again. Two different jobs ran which took 2 1/2 and 4 1/2 hours, and then the machine went properly to sleep without interrupting the jobs. Merci, Alex!

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An update:  I run several versions of automated backups on the machine. I’m now trying the SFC/DISM routine using the batch file method the article suggests.

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Mr. Austin wrote:

changed its Sleep setting to 2 hours instead of 4

Why do you need sleep at all ?
There are processes that should run all the time (like updating a/v software every 1-2 hours..)
Sleep has no benefits and it consumes storage space.

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That’s a good question for me to hear. It got me thinking about why I do it this way. I want the computer to sleep because:

1. It is meant to work for me according to what I find reasonable
2. Storage space is a non-issue on my computers
3. Microsoft never sold its software as needing to be on all the time. And other publishers and manufacturers don’t ask for that. I take everything Microsoft says (and other publishers) with a generous sack of salt
4. I’m unwilling to accept software from publishers which say it must run updates every hour or two, and it sounds very fishy that I’d allow the pasture fence to be open. I remember, for only one example, when Sony root-kitted people’s C drives. I also run automated software to prevent Windows from ‘phoning home’ without my authorization
5. I’m unwilling to have the computer on all the time because it consumes electricity which is not free
6. Its electricity has external, widespread environmental costs which are especially significant. Human-caused externalities which include, but are by no means limited to the heinous destruction caused by public power utilities’ egregiously destructive mismanagements. By letting the computer sleep I minimize the effects of those external environmental costs
7. When the computer is off (sleeping) there is one less hole in my pasture fences I need to pay attention to. Other ranchers’ “livestock” are less likely to wander in through holes in my pasture fences, inviting my livestock to wander off and party. I like my computer livestock, my cattle, horses, sheep, and goats to be pastured according to my rules.

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Why not just turn it OFF, power down. A fresh boot is good for the system. (others may disagree )

Just because you don't know where you are going doesn't mean any road will get you there.

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The computer is already, automatically turned off according to schedules thoughtfully defined by yours truly.

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Just now I did a remote session with IDrive. The man downloaded and installed a fresh IDrive client software package, checked and started the Microsoft Software Shadow Copy Provider service and the Volume Shadow Copy service (as well as the IDriveService), and over-wrote the existing client software package. He then restarted IDrive, and it launched successfully and began its backup. I’ll later see if it finishes.

This Acorn woodpecker outside my studio approved all of this – as she landed when I started this post update

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I have never and would never let anyone remote access to my devices even if they were the CEOs of Apple, Microsoft, Google…
Want to help ? send instructions, links to files…

About a month ago I had some problems with HitmanPro Alert false positive a couple of apps I use.
I have exchanged mail with support, got instructions by mail, a link to a new beta version…
Problem solved.

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Mr. Austin

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Yeah. I feel you on that. This was a rare exception for me. I was talking with the guy by phone while I watched what was going on. I’ve very thoughtfully implemented traffic cop software on the systems I manage which also have my back.

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Mr. Austin wrote:

This Acorn woodpecker outside my studio approved all of this – as she landed when I started this post update

When Walter Lantz created his Woody Woodpecker character, Acorn woodpeckers were said to be written as his inspiration for Woody’s (very ‘bipolar’) voice. Lots of them live around us, and they don’t sound even remotely as frenetic as Woody. They live in extended family groups, and they’re very gregarious. Our gallery sold original, one-of-a-kind production cels from under Lantz’s cameras. Woody’s voice was often done by Mel Blanc, and our gallery knew his son, Noel, especially well.

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cyberSAR

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Not sure what breed of woodpeckers we have here but dang they are noisy and can really tear up a tree! I give them a pass as I always liked Woody Woodpecker I wonder though, do they get headaches?

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I’d never looked this up. But because you asked, ‘tongue-in-cheek’, I found, “Why Don’t Woodpeckers Get Headaches?” It says, “Woodpeckers’ hyoid bones act like seatbelts for their brains.” Wow! Who’da thunk it .

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