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    My workbench PC w/ Win10 IP x64 is downloading “Windows 10 Insider Preview 14986”. 10% downloaded after about 10min (6Mbps ADSL) so I suspect it is an entirely new build.

    Will post back after it installs.

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    • #1587005

      Did this just show up for you? I haven’t had it show in Windows Update yet. I’m still on build 14965. I tried resetting Windows and checked on both slow and fast rings.
      Joe

      • #1587007

        Did this just show up for you?…

        Yes, it started downloading about 12:30PM today. It wasn’t showing last night.

    • #1587006

      “Windows 10 Insider Preview 14986” took about an hour to download and about 45min to install (three restarts).

      My settings seem to have been retained (default programs etc.) and networking is working as before.

      “Command Prompt” and “Command Prompt (Admin)” are gone from the Win10 logo right-click menu; there are now “Windows Powershell” and “Windows Powershell (Admin)”.

      The Win10 logo right-click menu on my Win10 Pro x64 PC, Build 14393.576:
      46248-W10_14393_RC-Menu

      The Win10 logo right-click menu on my Win10 IP x64 PC, Build 14986.1000:
      46249-W10_15986_RC-Menu

      “winver” now reports “Version 1607 (OS Build 14986.1000)”.

    • #1587008

      Thanks I’ll have to check mine again I didn’t have it yet this afternoon. It’s frustrating the way they dribble through. some people got it earlier this week.
      Joe

    • #1587009

      Thanks I’ll have to check mine again I didn’t have it yet this afternoon. It’s frustrating the way they dribble through. some people got it earlier this week.
      Joe

      About three months ago my Win10 IP x64 installation updated to a newer build after which it started either blue-screening or would lose display signal (the screen would go black and display a message “no input signal”. I did some googling and some troubleshooting re the VGA driver but there didn’t seem to be an easy fix so I downloaded the then-latest build to a USB thumbdrive and performed a clean-install. That seemed to work, but after I set W10 to “fast ring” it took about a week before it to downloaded/installed the latest “cumulative update” even though WSL members were reporting that the newer build was available for several days.

      About six weeks later W10 installed another “cumulative update”, after which there were 60+ “critical errors” most for “print spooler” listed in “Event Viewer” after W10 started up each time, and once again I spent some time searching/troubleshooting but gave up after I failed to find any fix. So I performed another clean-install of the latest build from thumbdrive, which seems to be stable. But again it took more than a week to download/install a newer “cumulative update” after I set W10 to the fast ring.

      These behaviours cause me to suspect that M$ servers are using some kind of system to give priority depending on how long the W10 system has been set to “fast ring”; so if you switch to “slow ring” then back to “fast ring” you might have to wait quite a few days before you see a result.

      • #1587019

        Coo, good morning.
        Yes ! I am now receiving 14986. I had it about 10 days ago, went back to 14955, as in 986, the Ethernet was dead. I have been trying to update/install since and to no avail. Methinks that their server was turned OFF to clear a bug, in the mean time. Further news later on, give me 1 hour or so.
        Have a great day. Jean.

    • #1587025

      Hey Y’all,

      I’ve been running 14986 for about a week now w/o issue. Just lucky I guess. :cheers:

      May the Forces of good computing be with you!

      RG

      PowerShell & VBA Rule!
      Computer Specs

      • #1587079

        Hey Y’all,

        I’ve been running 14986 for about a week now w/o issue. Just lucky I guess. :cheers:

        Hi RetiredGeek,

        One of my laptops is Windows 10 Home edition and I too have been running their Anniversary update version for close to two weeks now without any sort of the issues others seem to be complaining about on the web, both with installation and usability after install.

        I still *hate* the Windows 10 interface however and use Start10 to give me the functionality I’m used to and like in Windows 7, but I often need to revert to the Windows 10 standard interface when trouble shooting client machines.. Hate it when I have to do that :rolleyes:

        Cheers..

    • #1587039

      Coo & Geek, I got lucky too or maybe MS fixed this install of 14986. All is fine, LAN and AP are connecting now.

      Have a great weekend, here, there is a forecast of freezing rain. yeark ! Jean.

    • #1587123

      I post about its release on December 7 – http://windowssecrets.com/forums/showthread//178665-Insider-Preview-build-10-0-14986-1000-released-to-FAST-ring. Last preview release for 2016.*Should be released to slow*ring this week.

      --Joe

      • #1587125

        Thanks JoeP.
        I had a no connection problem even to the LAN, let alone the Web. The given cure, a restart, did not help. I worked at this for +/- 1 hour and gave up. Went back to previous OS. I was glad to see it Installing again today, works fine now.
        Do tell the “powers that be” that when the server is turned off, to let use know. I pounded my KB many times looking for “Check for Updates “, to no avail. This morning, as soon as I did this once again, it worked. My feeling about the server being OFF !

        Note : This on one machine, JoeP. The first two ran fine. Go search !

        Fun this is when it works right. Jean.

    • #1587130

      Well I tried installing and it keeps crashing shortly after boot. I downloaded an ISO for 14965 from MS. If I try a clean install will it validate automatically?
      Joe

      • #1587192

        …If I try a clean install will it validate automatically?…

        Yes, it should.

        • #1587695

          Late to the party with a response, but I’ve had all kinds of bad luck with 14986! It has tried to install about 20 times, but fails and reverts to 14971. I did manage to catch it at the point of failure a couple of times. It would get to about 17/18% of the install, then throw a blue screen, with a watchdog error & number that was not helpful when I searched for a solution.

          I have tried numerous suggestions in the Windows Tech Preview forum, and seem to have mucked something up, as it now won’t try to install. It tries to download the file, but fails right away with a report that says something like ‘Ooops, something went wrong, we couldn’t install some updates…’ and gives another unhelpful error message/number that leads me down more blind alleys.

          I’ve tried fixits, regedits and a lot of other suggestions, but am basically holding out for now until another build comes along. If that fails, maybe it’s time to do a clean install from an image. I’ve been thinking about doing that, anyway, because that particular machine was one that we upgraded from XP to Windows 8 via the $29 deal a few years ago, and it automatically downloaded and installed 32-bit version of 8, which carried through when I started playing with the Win 10 Tech Preview back in 2014. I’d like to turn it into a 64-bit version — this may be the impetus…

          • #1587706

            Which anti virus program are you using on that machine – they can sometimes be the cause of update failures just as they can be because of the DNS servers you are using.

            I tend to use Google’s 8.8.8.8 / 8.8.4.4 instead of my ISP’s default.

            I’ve also responded to your other post which has a similar vein.

    • #1587331

      I figured it out. Now I see that 14986 is in automatic updates. Is there any way to block it since I had problems with it before and just finished clean install 14965 yesterday. I’d like to wait until the next release before I upgrade again.
      Joe

    • #1587717

      Thanks for your response, Sudo15 — you’re a real asset to the community. I’ll answer your questions, even though I don’t think either is particularly relevant to my situation, unfortunately.

      1) On all of my current, still-Microsoft-supported machines, ranging from Windows 8.1 to 10, I’m simply using Windows Defender. I do cross-check for malware occasionally, using Malwaretbytes Free Edition, which doesn’t stay resident, and a couple of other tools that also must be run independently/non-concurrently of Defender.

      2) I’m using whatever Comcast/Xfinity sets up as DNS servers these days. I used to use OpenDNS, and, occasionally, Google’s servers, but a replacement modem from Comcast 2 or 3 years ago refused to let me assign my own DNS servers, despite being apparently able to change them from within the Windows settings. There were several complaints/articles about it at the time, and I just let it go. Maybe it’s now possible to do that — I don’t really know.

      But I doubt that this is an issue, because the machine on which I’m running the Tech Preview has never had a problem getting updates. It has had trouble with installing updates a couple of times, though. I went through this sometime in 2015 or so, when one of the builds repeatedly failed, and eventually seemed to resolve on its own with a subsequent build number. I’m hoping that happens again, whenever M/S pushes out the next build to the Fast ring. My guess is that I broke something in Windows with my attempts to fix it, and it that it has nothing to do with DNS.

      I should also mention that I have 5 other Windows 10 machines running using the default Comcast/Xfinity servers and they all update just fine…

      (Going now to respond to your reply in the other thread…)

    • #1587727

      When you set your own choice of DNS servers in the computer, that overrides the router settings.

      • #1587728

        When you set your own choice of DNS servers in the computer, that overrides the router settings.

        That was my understanding, and the way it worked when I had a separate cable modem and router. Then I was given a ‘gateway’, which is a fancy term for a modem & router built into one box, and my DNS settings were ignored. I would configure my network settings for OpenDNS, and then visit their test page, which conclusively demonstrated that the OpenDNS servers were not being used, by failing the 3 tests that were baked into the site to test functionality. A net search at the time indicated that Comcast had found out a way to circumvent machine-defined DNS settings.

        That was several years ago and a different O/S, but I don’t remember the particulars.

        However, it may be worth trying this again, now that I have yet another newer modem and several Win 10 machines…

    • #1587731

      An ipconfig /all will show which DNS servers are being used, but that’s the first time I’ve heard of an ISP being able to override a computer setting.

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