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    A friend of mine sent me this note: I send out my travel newsletter on a regular basis. I have about 50 names on a group in my Gmail account. For year
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    • #106135

      The best solution most of my mass-mailing correspondents have used is a Groups solution of some sort.

      Yes, it’s a pain to set up, a bit of admin work to maintain, but both Yahoo and GMail routinely ding or ban email addresses without their Groups features if they send out more than about five emails at once and/or if there are five or more email Spam reports of the same mailings about twice in a row.

      Even at this WordPress site, if I edit a Forum Post more than once in some undetermined time frame, I risk the post ending up trapped in the spam filters. And that’s just one copy.

      Spam filters are automated things, so the rules are the rules, and there is little chance of a successful appeal. I have not seen whether the new GMail Mute feature has helped with false Spam reports. I suspect it has not helped.

      In other words, unless your mailing list is very short, or unless your mailings are very infrequent, you will run afoul of the Spam reporting features of these services unless the mailings come from a Groups account.

      The only other workaround is to upgrade to a Business Class GMail account, which may or may not cost money, depending on whether or not yours is a qualifying not for profit organization.

      -- rc primak

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    • #106144

      Nowadays if you send out a batch of eMail at once you’ll be labeled a spammer in a hurry, however unjustified it may be. As RC has said, it’s the spammers’ faults that legitimate mass mailings are treated with suspicion. It’s not just Google doing that.

      Not that it has helped much, based on the amount of spam still having to be trashed by anti-spam software at the receiving ends.

      Sure seems like humans mess up whatever nice things we invent, doesn’t it?

      -Noel

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    • #106241

      I am thinking about the Error IconDelivery Incomplete message. I tried clicking on the See https://support.google.com/<wbr />mail/answer/69585 for more information link, but this link repeatedly times out. Anyway, I am thinking about the icon vulnerabilities which were discovered a good while back in Windows. I wonder if Woody’s friend’s computer is infected with malware which is using the known icon vulnerabilities to spread malware. Perhaps this could be the reason why the sender’s address is being blocked by Gmail?

    • #106273

      Last June I sent a group email to my former church group using Gmail via Thunderbird. I have done this infrequently over the last 6 years, as the back-up email person. I broke the full list into groups of about 30 addresses. Neither I nor the regular email person have had messages rejected as spam, possibly because all the recipients actively requested being on the list. In the past, some messages contained graphics and inline photo images, others were plain text.

      Question for @Bob Primak: When did Google start getting snarky about using the Groups feature?

      Thanks,

      Tom

       

      • #107321

        Looks like the change was kind of gradual, but became noticeable about two to three years ago. It’s been getting worse ever since. Something in their spam algorithms has changed.

        -- rc primak

    • #106402

      Your friend may want to move the newsletter to MailChimp, it’s completely free if you have less than 2000 list members. With other solutions, there are some setup hoops to jump through with SPF/DKIM/DMARC DNS records, but MailChimp takes care of all that for you. Nice GUI for the newsletter editor.

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