You couldn’t make this stuff up. The beta test version of Win10, known as 20H1, will ultimately emerge as Win10 version 2004, build 19033. It’s appare
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AskWoody LoungerNovember 27, 2019 at 12:28 pm #2011970April Fools’ Day joke, perhaps? 🙂
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AskWoody LoungerNovember 27, 2019 at 12:40 pm #2011975I don’t understand why they don’t just drop the whole YYMM format for the Version and stick with the Build number as the Version.Build. They’ve stuck with the same Build prefix since v1803 (17134), v1809 (17763), etc. It would be so much easier to say it’s Version 17134, Build 864 (17134.864).
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ManagerNovember 27, 2019 at 5:09 pm #2012075Which brings me back to my original recommendation:
- Win 10 = RTM version (1507)
- Win 10.1 = version 1511
- Win 10.2 = version 1607
- Win 10.3 = version 1703
- Win 10.4 = version 1709
- Win 10.5 = version 1803
- Win 10.6 = version 1809
- Win 10.7 = version 1903
- Win 10.7 SP 1 = version 1909
- Win 10.8 = version 2004
I think I first proposed that numbering system in early 2015.
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AskWoody_MVPNovember 27, 2019 at 10:31 pm #2012191They cannot predict which build will be the final (RTM) for each version
Why do they need to predict it? 1909 was 19H2 until last month, and by then it was 18363.
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AskWoody PlusNovember 27, 2019 at 2:05 pm #2012025Windows 10 has been out for over four years and they’re still coming out with “Beta” versions? I’m sorry, but this is not my idea of a serious OS. It seems more like a play toy for those who wish to to play around with.
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AskWoody LoungerNovember 27, 2019 at 3:58 pm #2012054Windows 10 has been out for over four years and they’re still coming out with “Beta” versions?
Would you rather they release them directly to the general public instead?
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AskWoody LoungerNovember 27, 2019 at 5:02 pm #2012074With the release of Windows 10 it would appear that MS has lost sight of what an operating system is supposed to do which is manage your hardware and run software (programs).
While the OS is doing that job, it should stay quietly in the background and not be bothering you with never ending updates, ads. etc., etc.
And, don’t get me started about Candy Crush and the rest of the ever increasing ‘bloat’ that’s been added to Windows 10 since it’s release over 4 years ago. Regular readers should know, like I do, how to avoid most of the bloat. For now, at least.
As quite a few people have said during the last 4 years, Windows 10 is more of an advertising platform than an operating system. I’m sure it will only get worse from here on – especially after Windows 7 reaches end of support next January.
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AskWoody LoungerNovember 27, 2019 at 7:46 pm #2012141Windows 10 has been out for over four years and they’re still coming out with “Beta” versions? I’m sorry, but this is not my idea of a serious OS. It seems more like a play toy for those who wish to to play around with.
Windows 10 is doing exactly the same thing that Mac OS X and Linux distributions have been doing for almost 20 years: Incremental improvements on a regular basis. Windows was always the sole outlier with every release being significantly different visually and functionally.
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AskWoody LoungerNovember 28, 2019 at 8:07 am #2012348Windows was always the sole outlier with every release being significantly different visually and functionally.
Not really, I remember a bunch of Windows releases looking mostly the same as their predecessor… and also visually and functionally converged user interface on very different kernels in the 3.x / NT 3.x and 9x/NT4 eras.
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AskWoody PlusNovember 28, 2019 at 11:43 am #2012416There are no advertisements on my Linux Mint, and there are no games – unless I decide to pick what I want and install it with Software Installer. No frou frou, just an operating system with what you need.
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AskWoody LoungerNovember 28, 2019 at 12:01 am #2012225No piece of software, including Windows itself, is ever completely bug free. As bugs are found, they are corrected, requiring an update. Similarly, external threats may develop after the OS is in use, possibly also requiring a security update.
Unfortunately, sometimes the updates introduce new bugs or incompatibilities.
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GuestNovember 28, 2019 at 4:09 am #2012264Oh Adobe could give them lessons. “Robohelp 2019” released “totally ready for production despite having 1/4 or the features of RH2017”. So they bundled RH 2017 (with maybe a few tweaks and patches, as far as we can tell) with it, relabelled as “Robohelp 2019 Classic”. That’s not going to cause any confusion when people ask for help, is it?
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AskWoody PlusNovember 28, 2019 at 12:37 pm #2012442There’s clearly a lot of heavy weight expertise on this site; many of you may work for Microsoft now, or have in the past, and certainly have spent careers supporting systems of various sorts.
Do any of you know where we are going,
when we will get there,
and how will we know we have arrived?
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AskWoody LoungerNovember 28, 2019 at 8:36 pm #2012595Windows was always the sole outlier with every release being significantly different visually and functionally.
Not really, I remember a bunch of Windows releases looking mostly the same as their predecessor… and also visually and functionally converged user interface on very different kernels in the 3.x / NT 3.x and 9x/NT4 eras.
Then you misremember. NT 3.1/3.5 looked like Windows 3.1. NT 4 looked like Windows 95, with the Start menu, Task Bar, and the whole “desktop” metaphor. NT 4 itself changed quite significantly with the post-SP3 Shell Update, which added stuff like the tree navigation to Explorer. A lot changed with Windows 2000, like the addition of Management Console, the new Windows Explorer with the left-side info panel & browser-like interface, and the big move away from the spatial file interface that originated with 95 & NT 4. And then everything changed again with Windows XP with the two-column start menu, green/blue colour theme, categories in Control Panel, rounded buttons, balloon pop-ups, and much greater use of gradients.
And so on and so forth.
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AskWoody LoungerNovember 29, 2019 at 1:13 am #2012648Then you misremember. NT 3.1/3.5 looked like Windows 3.1. NT 4 looked like Windows 95
Yes, exactly as I meant. Windows 3.1 / 3.11 and NT 3.x were about 5 numbered releases (and more if you count server and workstation separately and also on other hardware architectures, like NT on PowerPC and Alpha) with a consistend look and feel between very different internals.
Similarly Windows 9x and NT 4 were another set of releases coordinated to look mostly alike with different internals, even with the gradual differences between original 95 and 98SE and also NT with the various service packs…
Really not counting ME/2k and XP into this at all. Though, even 7 configured for traditional mode still wasn’t too different for end users coming from NT4.
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AskWoody_MVPNovember 29, 2019 at 11:54 am #2012757there are recent rumors that “version 2004” may be RTM’ed on December 17 as reported by these recent articles:
https://news.softpedia.com/news/windows-10-version-2004-could-reach-rtm-on-december-17-528365.shtml
https://borncity.com/win/2019/11/29/windows-10-v2004-freigabe-am-17-dezember-2019/
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