-
Chris-t
AskWoody PlusI suppose I could change to IMAP, I have a few POP accounts in use. I believe I have to delete the POP accounts first and then redo them as IMAP. I’ve read that I shouldn’t lose any data. I hope that is right. The PST files are backed up anyway so I shouldn’t lose much even if it goes wrong.
-
Chris-t
AskWoody PlusThanks, so from what you say my current POP connection to Gmail in Outlook 2021 won’t work after Monday?
-
Chris-t
AskWoody PlusFast forward: I’m using Outlook 2021 Pro and have two ‘Comcast’ emails and two ‘Gmail’ emails. In an hour-long chat with Microsoft, the agent finally told me the issue only applies to “3rd-party” email clients (i.e. Thunderbird)
First, do they really mean that since I’m using a supported version of Outlook (2021), that my emails will continue to work after the Sept. deadline?
Yes, because the recent change only applied to Outlook.com accounts (inc. Hotmail/Live/MSN).
I was hoping to see an answer to this email too.
What’s the question?
You’ve just answered it. Thanks!
1 user thanked author for this post.
-
Chris-t
AskWoody PlusCan someone please confirm or deny info I received from Microsoft re the “Modern Authentication” changes coming up?
Didn’t get the email that y’all did, but got the random/frequent pop-up asking for password.Fast forward: I’m using Outlook 2021 Pro and have two ‘Comcast’ emails and two ‘Gmail’ emails. In an hour-long chat with Microsoft, the agent finally told me the issue only applies to “3rd-party” email clients (i.e. Thunderbird)
First, do they really mean that since I’m using a supported version of Outlook (2021), that my emails will continue to work after the Sept. deadline?
Second, being skeptical, I installed Thunderbird, and the “Authentication Method” allows the “OAuth2” setting. My Outlook doesn’t show that as an option…
Just because I’m paranoid, doesn’t mean ‘they’ are ‘NOT’ out to get me!
I was hoping to see an answer to this email too.
-
Chris-t
AskWoody PlusWhat I have ascertained so far is that Copilot is helpless without logging into the PC with a Microsoft account and using Edge to open Bing, which is the source of the AI
So, during update process Microsoft should check for Microsoft account and if there is none NOT install Copilot
I do have a Microsoft account but I choose not to login to my computer with it. If they only install it on computers with a Microsoft account I guess they would still install it on mine.
-
Chris-t
AskWoody PlusWhat I have ascertained so far is that Copilot is helpless without logging into the PC with a Microsoft account and using Edge to open Bing, which is the source of the AI. In my systems, including my recently resurrected and upgraded Dell Latitude E5420 there is no Edge, no Bing anything. As for the upcoming Office integration, I won’t be buying into that.
I use a local account to log into my computer so am I safe even if I continue using Edge? I like to keep it on my computer to check that websites I am involved with work right in that browser but I may do away with that luxury to avoid adverts on my desktop and other nasties if necessary.
-
Chris-t
AskWoody PlusAs I mentioned in my first post, Office 2021 doesn’t include OneNote so you either have a Windows Store version or one from a previous version of Office.
I guess one man’s ‘unintuitive and klunky’ is another’s ‘easy to use’ as I have always found it to be the simplest and most intuitive note taking App out there. I haven’t really noticed much of a change in how it works over the years. It just seems straightforward and right to me.
-
Chris-t
AskWoody PlusFunny this should be an article in today’s newsletter as I was looking at changing my Office programme to the latest version yesterday when I discovered it no longer has OneNote. I read that Microsoft are making big changes to it and it will eventually be offered as a stand alone App. I use it a lot and find it very useful. I thought I would try the version in their online store but had no end of trouble with it. Firstly it either wanted to use my Microsoft Account or an organisation account. I don’t have one of those. I really don’t like using my Microsoft account as there seems to be a problem that although it appears to recognise my email, it ties itself to my backup email instead. As this is on a purchased domain name that could disappear in the future I am not keen to continue using it. Also, it was able to import one of my OneNote notebooks it threw up an error when I tried to import my main one.
This has put me off OneNote a bit…. that was until I started looking at the alternatives. I tried Evernote which has an inferior layout in my opinion. I really like how OneNote does things but if it’s going to be more difficult to even use it then I am not so sure. I dislike software that insists on storing your files in the cloud. I am happy to backup to the cloud but not have my main files there. It would mean no access to my notes without the Internet. The fact that my Microsoft account appears to be in some spiraling tangle with no easy way to fix it also puts me off.
1 user thanked author for this post.
-
Chris-t
AskWoody PlusAfter all that I was offered it this morning via Windows Update.
1 user thanked author for this post.
-
Chris-t
AskWoody PlusI was hoping for a comment regarding my having ‘None’ in RedReason in the registry but still not being offered 22H2.
1 user thanked author for this post.
-
Chris-t
AskWoody PlusHmm I have ‘None’ in RedReason but I am not being offered the update.
-
Chris-t
AskWoody PlusThanks both. I think I’ll wait at least until the next big Windows 11 update before doing it. It looks as though combined taskbar buttons must be the default in Windows 10 because that’s what I seem to have. I can see that uncombined ones might be easier so I’ll look at that. If I do prefer it I may have to get the third party software you mention, Sky.
-
Chris-t
AskWoody Plusyes, I am getting this suddenly this evening. I am glad it’s not just me. It seemed to happen around the same time my ESET antivirus programme updated itself so I thought it was that I have even uninstalled ESET to no avail.
![]() |
Patch reliability is unclear. Unless you have an immediate, pressing need to install a specific patch, don't do it. |
SIGN IN | Not a member? | REGISTER | PLUS MEMBERSHIP |

Plus Membership
Donations from Plus members keep this site going. You can identify the people who support AskWoody by the Plus badge on their avatars.
AskWoody Plus members not only get access to all of the contents of this site -- including Susan Bradley's frequently updated Patch Watch listing -- they also receive weekly AskWoody Plus Newsletters (formerly Windows Secrets Newsletter) and AskWoody Plus Alerts, emails when there are important breaking developments.
Get Plus!
Welcome to our unique respite from the madness.
It's easy to post questions about Windows 11, Windows 10, Win8.1, Win7, Surface, Office, or browse through our Forums. Post anonymously or register for greater privileges. Keep it civil, please: Decorous Lounge rules strictly enforced. Questions? Contact Customer Support.
Search Newsletters
Search Forums
View the Forum
Search for Topics
Recent Topics
-
Identify a dynamic range to then be used in another formula (Awaiting moderation)
by
BigDaddy07
1 hour, 55 minutes ago -
InfoStealer Malware Data Breach Exposed 184 Million Logins and Passwords
by
Alex5723
10 hours, 44 minutes ago -
How well does your browser block trackers?
by
n0ads
5 hours, 33 minutes ago -
You can’t handle me
by
Susan Bradley
1 hour, 26 minutes ago -
Chrome Can Now Change Your Weak Passwords for You
by
Alex5723
6 hours, 24 minutes ago -
Microsoft: Over 394,000 Windows PCs infected by Lumma malware, affects Chrome..
by
Alex5723
22 hours, 7 minutes ago -
Signal vs Microsoft’s Recall ; By Default, Signal Doesn’t Recall
by
Alex5723
1 hour, 36 minutes ago -
Internet Archive : This is where all of The Internet is stored
by
Alex5723
22 hours, 30 minutes ago -
iPhone 7 Plus and the iPhone 8 on Vantage list
by
Alex5723
22 hours, 36 minutes ago -
Lumma malware takedown
by
EyesOnWindows
10 hours, 51 minutes ago -
“kill switches” found in Chinese made power inverters
by
Alex5723
1 day, 7 hours ago -
Windows 11 – InControl vs pausing Windows updates
by
Kathy Stevens
1 day, 7 hours ago -
Meet Gemini in Chrome
by
Alex5723
1 day, 11 hours ago -
DuckDuckGo’s Duck.ai added GPT-4o mini
by
Alex5723
1 day, 11 hours ago -
Trump signs Take It Down Act
by
Alex5723
1 day, 19 hours ago -
Do you have a maintenance window?
by
Susan Bradley
10 minutes ago -
Freshly discovered bug in OpenPGP.js undermines whole point of encrypted comms
by
Nibbled To Death By Ducks
21 hours, 42 minutes ago -
Cox Communications and Charter Communications to merge
by
not so anon
1 day, 22 hours ago -
Help with WD usb driver on Windows 11
by
Tex265
7 hours, 12 minutes ago -
hibernate activation
by
e_belmont
2 days, 7 hours ago -
Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10 with AI assistant
by
Alex5723
2 days, 11 hours ago -
Windows 11 Insider Preview build 26200.5603 released to DEV
by
joep517
2 days, 14 hours ago -
Windows 11 Insider Preview build 26120.4151 (24H2) released to BETA
by
joep517
2 days, 14 hours ago -
Fixing Windows 24H2 failed KB5058411 install
by
Alex5723
1 day, 10 hours ago -
Out of band for Windows 10
by
Susan Bradley
2 days, 19 hours ago -
Giving UniGetUi a test run.
by
RetiredGeek
3 days, 2 hours ago -
Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 26100.4188 (24H2) released to Release Preview
by
joep517
3 days, 9 hours ago -
Microsoft is now putting quantum encryption in Windows builds
by
Alex5723
1 day, 5 hours ago -
Auto Time Zone Adjustment
by
wadeer
3 days, 14 hours ago -
To download Win 11 Pro 23H2 ISO.
by
Eddieloh
3 days, 12 hours ago
Recent blog posts
Key Links
Want to Advertise in the free newsletter? How about a gift subscription in honor of a birthday? Send an email to sb@askwoody.com to ask how.
Mastodon profile for DefConPatch
Mastodon profile for AskWoody
Home • About • FAQ • Posts & Privacy • Forums • My Account
Register • Free Newsletter • Plus Membership • Gift Certificates • MS-DEFCON Alerts
Copyright ©2004-2025 by AskWoody Tech LLC. All Rights Reserved.