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I have to vote thumbs down on Libre Office because of Bug 37967 (Bug 4914 in OpenOffice). For me (and apparently many others) the lack of a “Normal Mode” in Libre Writer is a total showstopper and deal killer. And the apparent incomprehension on the part of the advocates and developers as to why this is a “causes program to halt and be deleted from the hard drive”- level bug makes it even more frustrating. (No, neither “web view” nor “hide whitespace” are adequate workarounds.)

Two hundred years ago, a certain Tom Lincoln worried about how to limit the “book time” of his son Abraham.

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The Surfing Pensioner, OscarCP

OpenOffice/LibreOffice is fine if you’re not bothered by the lack of a Normal Mode in writer. But some of us find that to be a Critical! Need to have!! Feature!!! with Bug 4914/Bug 37967 being a total showstopper and deal killer.

(And no, the “Use web view!” and “Use ‘hide whitespace’!” workarounds are Not Acceptable Substitutes.)

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Chessie

LibreOffice still hasn’t fixed Bug 37967 (which it inherited from OpenOffice as the now sixteen-year old Bug 4914).

For me this is a critical bug at the “causes the program to be shut down and deleted from my hard drive” level.

LibreOffice Writer does not have a “Normal” mode. That makes it a non-starter for me.

Yes, LibreOffice claims to have the equivalent of a normal mode now – but “hide whitespace” isn’t an adequate substitute for a Normal mode. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37967#c17

I don’t find Unix tools to be primitive, just deeply user-hostile. Or perhaps Lovecraftian: If you’re a Deep One, with long Berkley-style hair or a neckbeard to hide your gill slits, then Unix is simpatico. But as a mortal human who cut his teeth on VMS, and did DOS on PCs before going on to Windows, I have to make a SAN check every time I deal with Unix.

I don’t much care for that Penguin-mascot OS, but I have to give it this: If the availability of source code caused problems, then Linux would be a fantasyland playground for viruses and bug-exploitation.

I may have spoken too soon; I’ve noticed other, more subtle problems such as my custom power-management profile being switched out on restarting and various slow downs in my system. I’ve uninstalled the IE updates again and plan to keep them uninstalled. In fact, I’m at the point of being ready to jump from Group B to Group W.

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JDeC

anonymous wrote:

Could the installation method be part of the problem? Like if you installed both IE patches before rebooting?

Could well be. I was the “anonymous” who reported trouble with Notepad++ and I installed the security-only patch plus both IE patches before rebooting. Things went back to normal after uninstalling both IE patches and then rebooting.

I just tried reinstalling both IE patches, rebooting after the first one. The second one didn’t request a reboot. Things look OK now – I don’t see the problems I had before with Notepad++ or the SFC:OP game.

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