-
rdleib
AskWoody PlusThanks for asking, PK, I’ve looked at Excel, Word, and Settings accessibility, I can’t see anything except I used the Settings accessibility/mouse settings to reduce the size of the mouse cursor so the white cross would fit in the cells of my spreadsheets!
-
rdleib
AskWoody PlusI still don’t know how it got to where it was, but thanks to everyone I have it back to where it was more or less. There were two issues – somehow the cross was very large, and I couldn’t drag and drop cells – I blamed that on the size of the cross.
Two overcome the cross size issue, I had to shrink my Windows cursor down 2 clicks, but with that the cross now fits inside a cell on my spreadsheets, although it now looks a bit puny on my computer screens… But I still couldn’t drag and drop cells. Reading up I found File/Options/Advanced/Editing Options/Enable fill handle and cell drag and drop was unchecked, so checked that, and I now have the little dot in the lower right corner of a cell when I click on it.
I’m not the most observant person, and I did think the “general select” in a worksheet was a arrow, not a little white cross…which certainly complicated the searching for answers. But I am sure I never unchecked the fill handle option or bumped up the windows cursor size, so some glitch occurred.
Again, thanks to everyone. The macro I posted does turn the general select into an arrow, but the better approach is to find a way to get the cross back into a cell – by shrinking the windows cursor size or increasing the zoom level of the spreadsheet – and checking the fill handle option if the little dot isn’t showing when you click on a cell.
-
rdleib
AskWoody PlusNope, not in extended mode, can turn that on and off, makes no difference. Thanks for the followup – Semper Fi!
-
rdleib
AskWoody PlusJust as a follow-up, I got the wired mouse. Booted the computer without either of the Logi mouses, opened an Excel spreadsheet and there was the white cross. So I went to device manager and deleted all the mouse entries except for the wired mouse – including deleting the Logitech HID-Compliant Unifying Mouse. Rebooted with the wired mouse, opened an excel spreadsheet and again, the white cross. Went to device manager, and all the entries I deleted were back.
So I deleted them all again, but this time uninstalled the Logitech Options Plus software, which had been updated when I received the new Logitech MX Vertical mouse, about 10 days before all of this started. Rebooted, and it was all the same, white cross and all the device manager entries back.
SOooooo, that’s where it is. I hope if anyone else has this problem the macro above helps, and maybe one day there will be an update of Excel or Logi and all of a sudden all will be well. If not, well, opening a spreadsheet with a macro, closing it and then going to work is not the worse thing in the world. Thanks Paul, Susan and Old Navy Man (I’m an old Marine Corps Man, older than you I expect!) Do appreciate your interest and help.
-
rdleib
AskWoody PlusSusan, Logi Vertical Mice are difficult to change the battery – but I have two of them, one bought this year, once about 2 years old, and I use them on a PC and a laptop – neither one has exhibited any power issues, they work for months between re-charges. Both of them have the same issue with the white cursor in Excel.
OldNavyGuy, I did the repair of my MS office suite, white cross is still there!
I will buy a wired mouse, always good to have a backup anyway, and see what happens with that.
-
rdleib
AskWoody PlusMouse is wireless, bluetooth connection. Thanks for asking.
-
rdleib
AskWoody PlusThanks, Paul, I read it, and I do believe it has something to do with the interaction of the mouse and Excel, but I’ve got two mice, albeit both Logi Verticals, and it does it on both of them. I reset the mouse to default, but that didn’t do anything. So onward and upward…
-
rdleib
AskWoody PlusOn my system it’s settings/multitasking/snap windows – Off. Thanks for getting me there, PKCano!
-
rdleib
AskWoody PlusI went to Ublock/settings and there it was, thank you deuce120. The format is a bit different than what you have… ghacks.net##.hentry,.home-posts,.home-category-post:not(:has-text(/Martin Brinkmann|Ashwin/)) So now I know where it is, have it written in my computer diary, and should be able to find it if I need to change it.
-
rdleib
AskWoody PlusIMHO, which is all it is, vendors of tech and other products/services don’t want you to understand what you are doing, they just want you to do what they say. Ignorant consumers are easier to up-sell and less likely to change vendors because they don’t understand – much like a lot of the medical profession…
-
rdleib
AskWoody PlusI ran SUMo and it found about 25 updates, 4 major. I ran Patch My PC, it found 5 and only recognized 20 programs on my PC, where SUMo checked over 100. I also ran UCheck, it found 4 programs and only about 20 checked. Not good. Did update SUMo, hope they sell it to someone who will keep it going.
1 user thanked author for this post.
-
rdleib
AskWoody PlusWell, it isn’t currently resolved, but evidently it will be in some future release. That’s good enough for me, my whole system is a bit rocky these days, don’t want to make anything worse. Thanks, everyone, for all your input and thoughts/ideas.
-
rdleib
AskWoody PlusAh, it’s getting late. I have Win11 22H2. I went to Control Panel, but have no Notification Area in small icons or in category, nor do I have an entry for System Icons anywhere that I can find.
On the plus side, I did ran Group Policy as Administrator, User Configuration>Administrative Templates>Start Menu and Taskbar, and I clicked on the listing for Start Menu and Taskbar which brought up not only a listing for a folder labeled “Notifications” but also a whole slew of individual policy listings affecting both the Taskbar and the Start Menu. A little over half way down this long list is a policy setting called “Remove Clock from the system notification area”.
Found it! Enabled it! Rebooted! date/time remains on the taskbar. Drat.
Ran Group Policy again, and it says Remove Clock is enabled. Drat.
Do really appreciate the input, folks. Hitting the rack.
-
rdleib
AskWoody PlusThanks, Susan, but there is no setting on my version of things that has a “Hide time and date in the system tray”, at least not that I can find. Not in time and language/date and time, and you can see below I searched for a setting “hide time” and that came up no results for hide time. I do have Start11 installed, Winaero Tweaker, but I can’t find anything in either of those that addesses taskbar date and time display.
-
rdleib
AskWoody Plus
![]() |
Patch reliability is unclear. Unless you have an immediate, pressing need to install a specific patch, don't do it. |
SIGN IN | Not a member? | REGISTER | PLUS MEMBERSHIP |

Plus Membership
Donations from Plus members keep this site going. You can identify the people who support AskWoody by the Plus badge on their avatars.
AskWoody Plus members not only get access to all of the contents of this site -- including Susan Bradley's frequently updated Patch Watch listing -- they also receive weekly AskWoody Plus Newsletters (formerly Windows Secrets Newsletter) and AskWoody Plus Alerts, emails when there are important breaking developments.
Get Plus!
Welcome to our unique respite from the madness.
It's easy to post questions about Windows 11, Windows 10, Win8.1, Win7, Surface, Office, or browse through our Forums. Post anonymously or register for greater privileges. Keep it civil, please: Decorous Lounge rules strictly enforced. Questions? Contact Customer Support.
Search Newsletters
Search Forums
View the Forum
Search for Topics
Recent Topics
-
Windows 11 Insider Preview build 26200.5651 released to DEV
by
joep517
3 hours, 10 minutes ago -
Windows 11 Insider Preview build 26120.4441 (24H2) released to BETA
by
joep517
3 hours, 12 minutes ago -
iOS 26,, MacOS 26 : Create your own AI chatbot
by
Alex5723
7 hours, 7 minutes ago -
New PC transfer program recommendations?
by
DaveBoston
1 hour, 27 minutes ago -
Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22631.5545 (23H2) released to Release Preview
by
joep517
11 hours, 11 minutes ago -
Windows 10 Build 19045.6029 (22H2) to Release Preview Channel
by
joep517
11 hours, 12 minutes ago -
Best tools for upgrading a Windows 10 to an 11
by
Susan Bradley
9 minutes ago -
The end of Windows 10 is approaching, consider Linux and LibreOffice
by
Alex5723
5 hours, 28 minutes ago -
Extended Windows Built-in Disk Cleanup Utility
by
bbearren
9 hours, 22 minutes ago -
Win 11 24H2 June 2025 Update breaks WIFI
by
dportenlanger
1 day, 6 hours ago -
Update from WinPro 10 v. 1511 on T460p?
by
CatoRenasci
4 hours, 5 minutes ago -
System Restore and Updates Paused
by
veteran
1 day, 8 hours ago -
Windows 10/11 clock app
by
Kathy Stevens
19 hours, 48 minutes ago -
Turn off right-click draw
by
Charles Billow
1 day, 11 hours ago -
Introducing ChromeOS M137 to The Stable Channel
by
Alex5723
1 day, 15 hours ago -
Brian Wilson (The Beach Boys) R.I.P
by
Alex5723
9 hours, 20 minutes ago -
Master patch listing for June 10, 2025
by
Susan Bradley
1 day, 17 hours ago -
Suggestions for New All in One Printer and a Photo Printer Windows 10
by
Win7and10
19 hours, 57 minutes ago -
Purchasing New Printer. Uninstall old Printer Software First?
by
Win7and10
1 day, 23 hours ago -
KB5060842 Issue (Minor)
by
AC641
11 hours, 11 minutes ago -
EchoLeak : Zero Click M365 Copilot leak sensitive information
by
Alex5723
2 days, 6 hours ago -
24H2 may not be offered June updates
by
Susan Bradley
22 hours, 47 minutes ago -
Acronis : Tracking Chaos RAT’s evolution (Windows, Linux)
by
Alex5723
2 days, 18 hours ago -
June 2025 updates are out
by
Susan Bradley
11 minutes ago -
Mozilla shutting Deep Fake Detector
by
Alex5723
3 days, 9 hours ago -
Windows-Maintenance-Tool (.bat)
by
Alex5723
2 days, 18 hours ago -
Windows 11 Insider Preview build 26200.5641 released to DEV
by
joep517
3 days, 12 hours ago -
Windows 11 Insider Preview build 26120.4250 (24H2) released to BETA
by
joep517
3 days, 12 hours ago -
Install Office 365 Outlook classic on new Win11 machine
by
WSrcull999
3 days, 12 hours ago -
win 10 to win 11 with cpu/mb replacement
by
aquatarkus
3 days, 3 hours ago
Recent blog posts
Key Links
Want to Advertise in the free newsletter? How about a gift subscription in honor of a birthday? Send an email to sb@askwoody.com to ask how.
Mastodon profile for DefConPatch
Mastodon profile for AskWoody
Home • About • FAQ • Posts & Privacy • Forums • My Account
Register • Free Newsletter • Plus Membership • Gift Certificates • MS-DEFCON Alerts
Copyright ©2004-2025 by AskWoody Tech LLC. All Rights Reserved.