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Hi Coochin,

I was not aware of such a product. Although the coolermaster.com website doesn’t seem to be working now I see several sites offering it and similar products. I like the idea that it doubles as sort of a carrying case. Great! I’ll check it out later when I have more time. Thanks!

Hello again,

Initially, changing the processor rates from 100% to 90% did not seem to make much difference:
14:30: Four hours after reducing Maximum Processor State from 100% to 90%
CPU [#0]: AMD A4-5150M
……………………………Figures in Degrees Centigrade
……………………….Current…..Minimum…….Maximum….Average…… Change from previous reading
CPU (Tct) …………..69.3…….…..66.5…….…..94.8……..…..80.2………..+2.0
CPU Package ……122.6………..113.8…..…..143.9………..127.2………..N/C

Minimum/Maximum ranges:
CPU (Tct): 66.6/94.8 = 28.2
CPU Package: 113.8/143.9 = 30.1
Fan vent exhaust reading: 27C

But then I decided to change power plans, and…. Whoa-ho- ho!!!
15:30: One hour after changing power plan from High Performance to Balanced
……………………..Current…..Minimum…….Maximum….Average…… Change from previous reading
CPU (Tct) ……..……56.1 …….…..56.1………….58.3……..…..56.6………..-23.6
CPU Package ……104.9 ………..104.5…..…..107.3…………105.2……….-22.0

Minimum/Maximum ranges:
CPU (Tct): 56.1/58.3= 2.2
CPU Package: 104.5/107.3 = 2.8

Fan vent exhaust reading: 26C. However, although I hear the fan, the exhaust velocity is greatly diminished because I can barely feel heat from it now.

So things now are not only operating at lower temperatures, but with much more temperature stability. I note also that the average temperatures for both CPU tct & package now are within 5 degrees of the results (Stress Test and Prime95) in the review mngerhold referred to in Post #8.

I am cautiously optimistic that we may have solved the problem. If not, I’ll use Event Viewer and report back to this thread. But for now, I’m happy, and very appreciative to you all. I regret only that I had not seen the review in Post #8 before I bought this thing, which has always performed poorly. I got it after losing a much-better Lenovo Thinkpad, when horror stories were all over about W10’s deficiencies, and was desperate to find a machine still running Windows 7.

Thanks all!
Marc

Hello again,

Initially, changing the processor rates from 100% to 90% did not seem to make much difference:
14:30: Four hours after reducing Maximum Processor State from 100% to 90%
CPU [#0]: AMD A4-5150M
Figures in Degrees Centigrade
Current Minimum Maximum Average Change in average from previous reading
CPU (Tct) 69.3 66.5 94.8 80.2………+2.0
CPU Package 122.6 113.8 143.9 127.2……… N/C

Minimum/Maximum ranges:
CPU (Tct): 66.6/94.8 = 28.2C
CPU Package: 113.8/143.9 = 30.1C
Fan vent exhaust reading: 27C

But then I decided to change power plans, and…. Whoa-ho- ho!!!
15:30: One hour after changing power plan from High Performance to Balanced
Figures in Degrees Centigrade
Current Minimum Maximum Average Change in average from previous reading
CPU (Tct) 56.1 56.1 58.3 56.6………-23.6
CPU Package 104.9 104.5 107.3 105.2………-22.0

Minimum/Maximum ranges:
CPU (Tct): 56.1/58.3= 2.2C
CPU Package: 104.5/107.3 = 2.8C

Fan vent exhaust reading: 26C. However, the exhaust velocity is greatly diminished because I can barely feel heat from it now. So I’m guessing that the fan is not runnning now.

So things now are not only operating at lower temperatures, but with much more temperature stability. I note also that the average temperatures for both CPU tct & package now are within 5 degrees of the results (Stress Test and Prime95) in the review mngerhold referred to in Post #8.

I am cautiously optimistic we’ve solved the problem. But if the problem resurfaces, I’ll use Event Viewer and report back to this thread. But for now, I’m happy, and very appreciative to you all. I regret only that I had not seen the review in Post #8 before I bought this unit. I got it just after losing a well-performing Lenovo Thinkpad. At the time horror stories were all over about W10’s deficiencies, and this HP ProBook was the only Windows 7 machine I was able to find.

Thanks all!
Marc

Thank you, mngerhold! I’ve changed the Maximum Processor State for all four plans that my power settings offer, for both plugged-in and battery operations, down from 100% to 90%. I’ll take a look in a few hours and see if there are changes. When my PC guy came by six months or so ago to install more memory I used a can of compressed air to blow out any accumulated dust in the guts. But the inside did look quite dust-free even without my doing that.

I believe the fan is running constantly but have never really paid attention. I’ll start paying attention to that now. The exhaust air feels comfortable–sort of like a heating pad–but I suspose that doesn’t tell us what the temperature is inside the unit or by the CPU. But I’ll stick a thermometer by it and tell you what it says when I also report if the power plan settings make a difference.

Regards, Marc

Thank you! I’ve changed the Maximum Processor State for all four plans that my power settings offer, for both plugged-in and battery operations. I’ll take a look in a few hours and see if there are changes.
Regards, Marc

Hello again folks,

Thank you very much for your responses. My replies and update follow.

Post #2 – Modules Check: Although I noted that Sudo15 kindly provided a link to a tutorial, this approach was a little intimidating to me. I’ve decided to first try what to me are the simplest and easiest investigations. If those do not help I’ll certainly give this a try.

Posts #3 & 4 – Event Manager: I was unaware of Event Manager, or what it appears my PC calls “Event Viewer,” until now! But it’s OK to laugh; I don’t mind!

EV shows a large number of “events.” I do not know how to interpret them, but have pinned EV to my start menu, so the next time the screen goes out, I will force a shutdown, and as soon as the PC’s running again will report EV’s readings back to you kind folks.

Post #5 — Overheating: Given that revelation that my exact model is known for overheating, this seemed like a real possibility. Plus, I felt I had the “expertise” to follow the suggested diagnostic route.

The only HWinfo temperature readings for “CPU” of any sort I saw were categorized differently than those shown on the screen grab that Rick Corbett posted. I’ve printed those from two different readings below

After PC on for ~3 hours, little use of Word:
CPU [#0]: AMD A4-5150M
Figures in Degrees Centigrade
………………….Current………..Minimum……..Maximum……..Average
CPU (Tct)…………72.1…………….70.4………….96.3…………..82.9
CPU Package….. 121.1…………..119.4…………145.3…………131.9

One hour later, after using Word for about a half hour:
CPU [#0]: AMD A4-5150M
Figures in Degrees Centigrade
………………….Current………..Minimum……..Maximum……..Average
CPU (Tct)…………66.1…………….64.8………….94.9…………..78.2
CPU Package……114.1…………..113.8…………143.9…………127.2

It seems that if “CPU (TcT) is the basis for determining overheating, I’m in good shape, but in an alarming condition if “CPU Package” is the relevant measure. If you folks say it’s the “CPU Package” then I’ll definitely and immediately follow the advice about the power plan settings.

Please let me know what you think about these readings.

Thanks, Marc

Hello again folks,

Thank you very much for your responses. My replies and update follow.

Post #2 – modules check: Although I noted that Sudo15 kindly provided a link to a tutorial, this approach was a little intimidating to me. I’ve decided to first try what to me are the simplest and easiest investigations. If those do not help I’ll certainly give this a try.

Posts #3 & 4 – event manager: I was unaware of Event Manager, or what I guess what my PC calls “Event Viewer,” until now! But it’s OK to laugh; I don’t mind!

Event Viewer and saw it shows a large number of “events.” I do not know how to interpret them, but have pinned EV to my start menu, so the next time the screen goes out, I will force a shutdown, and as soon as the PC’s up and running will report EV’s readings back to you kind folks.

Post #5 — overheating: Given that revelation that my exact model is known for overheating, this seemed like a real possibility. Plus, the suggested diagnostic route was one that I felt I had the “expertise” to follow.

The only HWinfo temperature readings for “CPU” of any sort I saw were labeled differently than those shown on the screen grab that Rick Corbett posted. I’ve printed those from two readings below

09:25AM: After PC on for ~3 hours, little use of Word:
CPU [#0]: AMD A4-5150M
Figures in Degrees Centigrade[/I]
Current Minimum Maximum Average
CPU (Tct) 72.1 70.4 96.3 82.9
CPU Package 121.1 119.4 145.3 131.9

10:10AM: After using Word for about a half hour:
CPU [#0]: AMD A4-5150M
Figures in Degrees Centigrade
Current Minimum Maximum Average
CPU (Tct) 66.1 64.8 94.9 78.2
CPU Package 114.1 113.8 143.9 127.2

It seems that if “CPU (TcT) is the basis for determining overheating, I’m in good shape, but in an alarming condition if “CPU Package is the relevant measure. If you folks say it’s the “CPU Package” then I’ll definitely and immediately follow the advice about the power plan settings.

Please let me know what you think about these readings.

Thanks, Marc

Hello again, fellow Loungers,

I had thought that if I was lucky, that maybe after a day or two, one or two people might post suggestions. I’m stunned by your numerous, rapid, thoughtful responses.

Please accept my apology for what you’re about to read: I have a full day planned, and we’re Thanksgiving hosts tomorrow. I won’t be able to seriously review and respond to your replies for probably a day or so. But I definitely will, and am very grateful-thankful! For your thoughtful replies.

Best wishes to you all!
Marc