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Some versions of Windows will allow mirroring, but I don’t recommend software mirrors – too slow and not resilient enough for proper recovery. Why don’t you just image the boot drive to an external disk and set up a backup program that runs regularly?

cheers, Paul

Thanks for the thoughts Paul.
I am leaning toward the backup software as you suggest.
Can you or anyone recommend good software for such purpose?

Thanks,
rstew

rstew,

This is sill VERY hot.

Zig

Remember, these are core temps, NOT case temps!

rstew

Well she is operating just great after all this.
Almost 12 hours today; and not a whimper. No BSOD craziness.
That “Intel(R) Viiv(TM) driver sure seems like it was the culprit.
Now my core temps seem to run around 45-50 C when idling, and up into the 70’s and 80’s when she is working.
The core activity graphs in task manager run very smooth and low mostly now, instead of all kinds of random spikes every few seconds like before. Standby CPU activity runs around 1-4%.
All in all very pleased.
Thanks so much to all on this forum!

rstew

Thanks Clint and others for all the help! This is indeed a great site, very informed folks here.
I plan to give it a good long run today and hope that things are stable.
The RealTemp monitor includes a utility that does a full load CPU test which tapers off over 10 minutes, so you can watch individual core temps as the load decreases. I hope to give it a try today.

The best,
rstew

OK, got it.
I went into uninstall programs and killed it there. All traces seem to have vanished.
Time will tell if that cures it, but I am hopeful.
Thanks to all for the help.

rstew

“Intel(R) software driver for Intel(R) Viiv(TM) technology
Uninstall the above and remove the TV tuner card. ”

I am not sure where to go to kill this. I tried to stop it in Task Manager>Processes; but it still looks to be alternately running/stopped in the services window.
How do I kill it permanently?

rstew

Here is the blue screen view of the crash file.
Finally got one small enough to attach!

rstew

37212-IMG_0538

Thanks Clint;
All great info.
I loaded blue screen viewer, and the offending driver is; IntelDH.sys
Caused By Address: Address IntelDH.sys+58e
File Description: Intel(R) software driver for Intel(R) Viiv(TM) technology
Crash Address: ntkrnlpa.exe+4decd
Does this help?

I note your comments about the temps.
I believe that Realtemp reports junction temps; the 100 C max is referred to as TjMax; whereas the TCase is the outer case, right?
The cooler is the original that came with the computer. Its an AVC B6521NC; 4 wire harness.
I can’t find any info about it but the original E3300 processor is rated for 65 watts THD, same as the Q6600, so I figured it would be up to the task.
None of the restarts have shown any kind of overheat event.

I note your comments about the hot southbridge chip when used with the Q6600.
What is the SFF case that you refer to?

“Make certain your BIOS is at least 1713, latest is 1754” These are Intel bios versions, right?
My DG965OT is a Gateway OEM board (made by Intel), but uses specific Gateway bios.
I read elsewhere that if you install the Intel standard bios, it likely will not run at all. Others have done this.
My bios version is MQ96510J.15A.0307.2006.1214.1911
There is a newer version MQ96510J.15A.0386 available, but I don’t want to try installing it in case I mess it up, or it doesn’t work for some reason.

Thanks for all the info so far. Any further ideas or suggestions will be most appreciated.

rstew

It would be best if you removed your e-mail address so that you don’t get bombed out – this is a public forum for all to view.

Satrow has acknowledged he’s aware prior to your last post but you may need to wait until after the weekend for further BSOD assistance as today is Father’s day and there are family commitments.

OK thanks, done.
Yes we are busy with Father’s day as well. All is good.

rstew

I checked the link to the hotfix, thanks. It says this happens when there is more than one TV tuner installed. That seems kind of odd, since I have not added another TV tuner.
All I did was switch from a Core 2 Duo E6300 CPU to a Core 2 Quad Q6600.
The unit does have a plug in PCI TV tuner card, but its always been there. I don’t use it anyway; don’t watch TV on the computer.

I have tried attaching pix of the BSOD error message, but the files exceed 1.95 mb, so they won’t attach.
I also tried attaching the mini dump files, but the file type is not recognized. I have nothing to open these files, so I can’t even tell what they contain.

The BSOD’s are pretty repeatable; about every 5-1/2 hours, no matter whether the computer is active or just standing by.
When it is active I start to notice the screen whites out suddenly, then comes back after a few seconds.
I also notice that several of the desktop icons stop working, or take a long time to activate.
Then after a few more minutes, the screen goes to BSOD, and shows numbers being dumped to a file. It won’t pause so you can digest it at all.
Then it goes black and starts a full re-boot. It starts up pretty normally, except it takes quite a while for the tool tray icons to show up. Otherwise normal, and then it operates just fine for another 5 hours or so.
Anyone got any ideas what is going on? I am at a loss.
I don’t think its an overheated CPU situation. I loaded Realtemp 3.7 and it shows the core temps ranging from lows in the mid-50’s, to a high of maybe 94C.
The cpu fan kicks in and starts ramping up by the mid-80’s. The max temp allowed is 100 C, which I assume is correct for the Q6600.
When I run passmark, the temps climb to about 94C; and the fan is running at maybe half speed. Core 0 is always the hottest of the 4 cores.

If someone could email me, I could send the BSOD screen pix, and the mini-dump files.

Thanks,
rstew

OK, I can’t figure out the file attach thing at all.
Is there a guide somewhere on the forum as to how it works?
rstew

Oh it looks lik I got one file attached. Can I attach several to one post?

OK thanks; I see what you mean now.
I don’t think it has been running any slower than it ever did.
I was just interested in a mini-upgrade for now in lieu of buying a new computer, which will likely be soon anyway.
One odd thing I have just noticed is every few hours or so it crashes with a big BSOD message that is totally unintelliglbe to me at least.
It then automatically reboots and behaves normally for another few hours.
Once Vista is up there is an error screen that gives a bunch of data about the error, again unintelligible. I did manage to get a screen shot of it though, in case anyone can decipher it.
Then there is an occasional error window about some “cable registry” thing, and a ‘windows media” issue. These are followed by a screen that says windows is searching for a resolution, but it never finds any of course.
Any idea what any of this is about?

Thanks,
rstew

Does the CPU still run high when booted up into Safe Mode with Networking and have you checked the temps to see if it’s running hot ?

Boot sector viruses can also give the symptoms you’ve got.

Not sure what symptoms you are referring to. It was running fine, just slow.
I use full AVG scan monthly and Malwarebytes frequently. All clean.
The new CPU runs at temperatures that are just fine using the original fan/heat sink.
The fan runs no more often and/or faster than it ever did.

rstew

If anyone is still interested in upgrading these older DG965OT board based computers, I just did some mods to a 7 year old Gateway GM5410E.
It has served me well over the years, but it was getting kind of slow with the old E3300 Core 2 Duo running at a whopping 1.86 GHz with 2 GB cache.
So I picked a Q6600 Core 2 quad (4GB cache) up off ebay for pretty cheap, and installed it, with a second 1TB sata HDD at the same time.
Happily the bios picked up the change and shows the new CPU running at 2.4 GHz, with a FSB speed of 1066 Mhz, which is the max this board can support.
I also tweaked the memory speed up from 533 to 667 Mhz. It has 2 GB of ram.

Overall pretty happy with the speed boost. I don’t do gaming so this should work OK for a while. Stuff loads a lot faster.
Gateway uses funky bios’s that don’t allow overclocking or much else, so you don’t have much to play with. They don’t support 1333 FSB, so you have to make sure when you get an upgrade CPU that it will run at a nice clip with the 1066 FSB.
This board also uses older DDR2 ram (533/667/800), and only supports a max of 8 GB using 4 slots.
From what I have read you can’t upgrade the bios with a standard 965 bios from Intel. This renders the board useless.

The Q6600 and Q6700 (2.4/2.67 Ghz) are designed for 1066 FSB, as are the QX6700/QX6800/QX6850 “Extreme” family (2.67/2.93/3.0 Ghz respectively). These are all LGA775 chips.
There are plenty of zippy Xeon quad core CPU’s also available that are 1066 FSB. Many of them are intended for the LGA771 socket so you have to use a 771/775 adapter attachment. No big deal.
Anyway, 965 upgrades are cheap and easy to do.

rstew