firefox 33 does NOT work on xp pro

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tried to get newer version of firefox
3.0.19 worked great but a few sites had problems with it

went to mozilla and downloaded a newer version
had no choice
it gave me v33

installed ff33
it killed of my old ff3

FF33 DOES **NOT** WORK AT ALL on my xp pro sp3
disk activity goes on forever
never get a ff display on the screen to use

looked at mozilla site and tried rebooting and a couple of other things
but nothing makes ff33 work

tried deleting the newer ff but it keeps coming back like a zombie
no way to get rid of it
delete a folder and it looks gone
but comes back next boot

only clue i have is that i had installed chrome before the new ff
they do not seem to play nice together at all but it could be the ff33 bugs

QUESTIONS
how can i rip out the current ff by the roots and put a wooden stake in its heart and shoot it with a silver bullet to totally get rid of it

is there an old ff version that will run on xp pro sp3
i had heard there was one that did but newer ones would not
later i was told they all run
but clearly ff33 does NOT run so that was incorrect

i really do want a working version of ff because it is so much easier and faster than chrome

any and all suggestions for fixing this ff problem and getting a working version is much appreciated.
thanks

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From what I’ve read, FF v33.0 should work in XP.

Try FF in its Safe Mode https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-issues-using-safe-mode?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Safe+Mode#w_how-to-start-firefox-in-safe-mode

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woulda coulda shoulda

what is worse is they offered no other version
and the web site i got it to use with
only supports 32.x

From what I’ve read, FF v33.0 should work in XP.

Try FF in its Safe Mode https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-issues-using-safe-mode?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Safe+Mode#w_how-to-start-firefox-in-safe-mode

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thanks
will check that link

32 is the only FF version supported by one web site that i use a lot
i am using chrome but really do not like it as much as FF

From what I’ve read, FF v33.0 should work in XP.

Try FF in its Safe Mode https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-issues-using-safe-mode?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=Safe+Mode#w_how-to-start-firefox-in-safe-mode

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To avoid a problem with FF 31 and 32 I had to go back to 30. However, 33 seems to have fixed my problem. I try to get Offline installers so I don’t later have to depend upon an Internet connection.
https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=firefox+offline+installer&oq=firefox+offlin&gs_l=hp.1.0.0l10.2424.5562.0.7921.15.11.0.4.4.0.142.1375.0j11.11.0….0…1c.1.56.hp..1.14.1277.0.VRjJFkySy9w

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thanks

clearly you are smarter than i am
did not think of looking for those

the main site i need it for only supports ff32 plus others
so it is ff32 or something else at this point

To avoid a problem with FF 31 and 32 I had to go back to 30. However, 33 seems to have fixed my problem. I try to get Offline installers so I don’t later have to depend upon an Internet connection.
https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=firefox+offline+installer&oq=firefox+offlin&gs_l=hp.1.0.0l10.2424.5562.0.7921.15.11.0.4.4.0.142.1375.0j11.11.0….0…1c.1.56.hp..1.14.1277.0.VRjJFkySy9w

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It works fine on my XP. But if it gets you out of a jam, all previous versions are always available on the Mozilla ftp site.

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thanks

i did not find that when i googled and went to the dl link i found
then saw no other options on that page to do anything else

It works fine on my XP. But if it gets you out of a jam, all previous versions are always available on the Mozilla ftp site.

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https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/
You have to scroll to the version desired, shows as a Folder which means clicking on it gets subFolders to navigate to reach the actual file desired. This would be the path to get the last 30.x version:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/30.0b9/win32/en-US/

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thanks

but how do i get ALL the files needed for a version and get them installed ?

downloading single files does not seem to be the best solution

they had a single place to download and install v33
i recall doing that for previous versions before

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downloading single files does not seem to be the best solution

It is the best way and maybe the only way.

they had a single place to download and install v33
i recall doing that for previous versions before

That is probably true but that site most likely has only the latest available.

Downloading from the links I listed has all the files necessary for installing a particular version in a single file, you just have to choose the version you want when you have need for an earlier version which usually is no longer supported by the publisher. Nearly all downloadable program installations do it that way. In most cases the downloaded file also contains the installation routine, done that way ensure the program works as desired. Some programs are also downloadable as compressed .zip files but do contain all the necessary program files. It’s the way computing has been for several years.

Before you wonder "Am I doing things right," ask "Am I doing the right things?"

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thanks

it looked like i had to dl a big bunch of files separately under that version
which was a lot more work than i am ready to do

ouch
but if that is what it takes then i may have to suffer the pain to do it

otoh i may bite the bullet and just download a new IE even though that is not desirable
but as long as FF is not working, and chrome is causing so many problems in spite of fixing many too, i may have no choice.

or if i could find a pop3 email client for win8.1 then i may switch the primary focus of each pc and just use the old xp box for real work and 8.1 for internet stuff

It is the best way and maybe the only way.

That is probably true but that site most likely has only the latest available.

Downloading from the links I listed has all the files necessary for installing a particular version in a single file, you just have to choose the version you want when you have need for an earlier version which usually is no longer supported by the publisher. Nearly all downloadable program installations do it that way. In most cases the downloaded file also contains the installation routine, done that way ensure the program works as desired. Some programs are also downloadable as compressed .zip files but do contain all the necessary program files. It’s the way computing has been for several years.

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Drew, there could be several reasons why people (and businesses) hang on to XP – chief among them is some programs won’t run on an OS later than XP. For others, it does what they need and they don’t have the free cash or the time and effort to upgrade. I have a business client that keeps an XP machine around because the payroll program they use only runs on XP and the upgraded version is prohibitively expensive.

Judge not or yee too shall be judged.

Jerry

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My business XP Pro — yes, another case of how prohibitively expensive and difficult it would be to replace the specialized software — is on the ESR (Extended Support Release) channel for Firefox, created for business/enterprise situations. There is an overview of ESR here: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/ Essentially, they focus on stable releases addressing primarily security issues, rather than on the latest and greatest features.

You can find the latest ESR version here, which is a single installation file: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/31.2.0esr/win32/en-US/ — found by scrolling down through all of the listings on the main releases page (ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/) to the last ESR listing. Once you’ve installed an ESR release, then Firefox will automatically look only for ESR releases in the future.

My Win7 runs the “normal” Firefox, which often requires some fiddling (and/or add-ons) to deal with the newest look they’ve adopted. My XP just plugs along nicely with the stable ESR updates. :rolleyes:

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Would you believe a WinXP computer rehabbed only for the advantage of the BIOS supporting both the A: and B: floppy drives, either 2 x 3.5″ or one 3.5″ and one 5.25″ or in my case a combination of both sizes in one drive? Some people still have the disks and either want to save the data or just see what it is before throwing away. Most computers of the last couple of years have no support for floppy drives except for the 3.5″ USB type and there is no 5.25″ USB drive. Fortunately I never had to deal with the 8″ floppies.

Before you wonder "Am I doing things right," ask "Am I doing the right things?"

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some stay w/ it ‘just cus they like it’

That’s a good enough reason for me. I’m willing to accept that what works for me isn’t necessarily what works for everyone else. The predicted XP catastrophe hasn’t materialized as far as I can see. Just keep your AV/anti malware up to date, exercise good browsing habits, and there is no reason to run out and buy new hardware (most XP boxes won’t run Windows 7 and above) as long as you’re happy with what you’ve got.

Jerry

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Firefox v33.0.2 appears to be working just fine for me on the last XP box I have that is connected to the internet. Just saying… YMMV.

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Firefox v33.0.2 appears to be working just fine for me on the last XP box I have that is connected to the internet. Just saying… YMMV.

I’ll raise you 😀 FF 33.0.3 is fine on XP.

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As an IT Pro for forty nine years, I am just as concerned about bots as you are. However, there is no evidence that I’ve seen that indicates a hoard of XP only bots. They can and do exist on Windows 8 as well. I still maintain that if you have anti malware installed and use good browsing habits, you can continue to run XP if that is your preference. I don’t know where you get the idea that an XP systems with anti malware are significantly more vulnerable. The latest payware infections hit all Microsoft OSes, not just XP. As I said, many people predicted Armageddon for XP systems after Microsoft ceased support. There has been zero evidence of that unless you can point me to it.

“but what about the less savvy” That’s an issue regardless of the OS and is what keeps me in business – XP as well as Windows 7 and 8.

I just think its wrong to say that if you run XP, just get over it.

Jerry

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As an IT Pro for forty nine years…

Hats off to you, Jerry. I’m only a mere (almost) 60 years old in a few weeks time so I’m guessing you best me by perhaps 10 years?

Regards,

Rick

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Hats off to you, Jerry. I’m only a mere (almost) 60 years old in a few weeks time so I’m guessing you best me by perhaps 10 years?

Regards,

Rick

I’m in my early 70s. Started with Univac when I graduated with my EE degree in 1965. Worked with them until I retired. I participate in this board and fix PCs to help stave off Alzheimer’s although some posters probably think I haven’t been very successful. :rolleyes:

Jerry

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Drew1903 – ROFL…it made me realise it’s nearly 35 years since I assembled my first Sinclair ZX81. Now I look at my Dad (82) using his iPad and realise how far we’ve come. 🙂

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Drew, I know what you mean. I’ve looked for but cannot find an old photo of me with my first ‘mobile’ phone. I thought I was so cool with this enormous brick (almost the same size as my head) that took 8-12 hours to charge yet lasted barely 30 minutes… not that I could afford to talk for even 3 minutes in those days. The ‘good old days’ – sometimes they weren’t so good, but they were entertaining. 🙂

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I will say we all agree that the biggest danger to personal computing & computer security is in front of the screen regardless of OS and that while one can fix computers, you can’t fix stupid as the old IT Pro saying goes

Agreed, but I wouldn’t call it stupid- just ignorant. The most common faults I run into is taking the default installs of utilities that then put adware along with the program and clicking on malware popup links on sites like the “You have been infected” links as well as Email links spoofing bank accounts, package delivery or the like.

Jerry

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I have Windows XP mode running within Windows 7 Pro because some of the games wifey and I play can only be run within XP or earlier OS.

"Take care of thy backups and thy restores shall take care of thee." Ben Franklin, revisted

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Jerry! Just now saw your post about default installs…add to that clicking on links in an email 🙂 I should know better, however in my rush to get done one day, I clicked on a “facebook U got message” link — Avast warned me, FF NoScript stopped the link dead. Even I who has known better for years can err when in a hurry 🙂

"Take care of thy backups and thy restores shall take care of thee." Ben Franklin, revisted

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thanks

but i am no so rich as to ahve that luxury

i am still using two win98se boxes
and they are doing quite well thank you

i have no intention of ditching xp which i know
and is solid except for new software that some web sites require
that may be iffy on xp

i will just use the win81 laptop for them
and keep enjoying xp for a long long time

i have 3 xp boxes going
and not getting rid of any of them
1 dedicated to music and never on the net will run forever
1 dedicated to taxes and personal records and never on the net and will run forever

1 using for email that will become graphics and publishing only as soon as i can find a pop3 email client for win81, and then never on the internet again
so it will run forever just fine too

All I noticed was the title of this thread. Lots of (current) things don’t work on XP. Tons of stuff is not made for XP (anymore). Why? How about why should it be? Just put XP out to pasture where it belongs. It’s life is over!!!! Just give it a nice burial, raise a glass & toast it adieu & just let it go, it has served its time, had a good life, now, leave it @ that & move on! Geeesh, already!!

And, truthfully, not only is, still using it silly, it’s downright dangerous.

Excuse me for being blunt but, seriously. Enough of trying to ride a dinosaur.

Cheers,
Drew

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See if the Anvi Browser Repair Tool will do anything for you, but click on the icons in the left pane and uncheck anything you don’t want reset/changed.

http://www.anvisoft.com/browser-repair-tool.html

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thanks

we will check that out today

See if the Anvi Browser Repair Tool will do anything for you, but click on the icons in the left pane and uncheck anything you don’t want reset/changed.

http://www.anvisoft.com/browser-repair-tool.html

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Might also look at Outlook Express Classic, I have it installed on Win7, Win8.1 and Win10 TP.
http://www.oeclassic.com/

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thanks

will look at that

i never liked outlook at all but i may have to be practical and make do as the least worst option that actually works now

Might also look at Outlook Express Classic, I have it installed on Win7, Win8.1 and Win10 TP.
http://www.oeclassic.com/

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we have hotmail and live/outlook mail online for casual, spam and and newsletter type emails

but we need a pop3 client for our real email so we can file it .save it, sort it etc.

You could maybe try Outlook.com or Windows Live Mail. And maybe see if IE works better for you.

Cheers,
Drew

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i still have two 98se boxes running fine
and they run faster than xp after i ripped out the useless AV stuff since they are never on the internet ever at all for any reason

i have 3 xps and am not going to dump them and mortgage the house to buy some win8/x crap so billyg can get richer

xp will run at least 10-15 more years if the hardware does not die and i did not buy the spare parts soon enough

you do know that some aps that people need just dont work on newer machines at all
there is a limit to the time and money people can afford to make needless changes

All I noticed was the title of this thread. Lots of (current) things don’t work on XP. Tons of stuff is not made for XP (anymore). Why? How about why should it be? Just put XP out to pasture where it belongs. It’s life is over!!!! Just give it a nice burial, raise a glass & toast it adieu & just let it go, it has served its time, had a good life, now, leave it @ that & move on! Geeesh, already!!

And, truthfully, not only is, still using it silly, it’s downright dangerous.

Excuse me for being blunt but, seriously. Enough of trying to ride a dinosaur.

Cheers,
Drew

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I have kept a WinXP computer but only because the BIOS supports both Floppy A and Floppy B drives [newer BIOSes don’t]. It has a combo 3.5″/5.25″ drive in it. The main use is for helping those folks that still have floppies from older computers and either just want to see what the data is or in a couple of cases retrieve the data and burn onto CDs or copy to USB Thumb/Flash drive for archiving, usually family stuff, family tree, pictures, stories, etc.

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