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    My son’s computer is giving us a “Data Execution Prevention” error whenever he invokes any kind of program that uses Windoze Explorer. This included file explorer, the control panel, and others. Updating Symantec did nothing to correct the problem. Does anybody out there have any suggestions?

    TIA, Douglas

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    • #944646

      I would do a thorough check for spyware etc. – see Anti Adware, Spyware, Hijack and Tutorials & Links to Detection & Removal Tools.

      If that doesn’t help, You receive a “Data Execution Prevention” error message in Windows XP Service Pack 2 or in Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005 describes how to turn off DEP for a specific application or in general.

      • #944673

        I have run the latest Symantec virus checker – no viruses. I ran AdAware and found over 500 malware and adware files, cleared them, but no solution to the explorer problem. Ran Spybot and found a few more – same story. Ran Stinger without success. Downloaded HijackThis, ran it and posted the log on the Tom Coyote site. Am now waiting.

        Douglas

        • #944696

          I’ve had a recent experience with helping someone with her computer and AdAware/Spybot finding almost 1,000 “bad guys” but when I suggested to her (for the heck of it) that she run them AGAIN, some more stuff was found. You might also try to run AdAware and Spybot for a second time to see if the same thing happens in your case. I have no idea why – maybe the program(s) get overloaded and can’t handle any more in that first run. Shouldn’t hurt to try again.

        • #944873

          I agree with Al here. I always run Adaware and Spybot until they say I’m clean. Just to be sure. yep

          Have a look here to see if it sheads any light on the DEP error. It does sound as though something is trying to run Windows Explorer without the proper permissions.

          • #944896

            I keep running them, but so far, I have been unable to track down the cause for the DEP which is a real pain because I cannot use the file explorer, the control panel, unzip files, look at certain directories, invoke the “run” command, or just about anything else. I can do this in safe mode, so it is something that loads after that, but I don’t know what. I have a log posted over on the HijackThis forums, but no one has answered it so far. Must not have used a provoking enough title I guess.

            D.

            • #944999

              If you want to post the log here (as an attachment, please) I’ll have a look at it and see if there is something obvious or something strange that I can track down and identify. I’m not the expert that the folks on those forums are, but I’ve cleaned more than a few computers up for friends and family. If you can operate in Safe Mode then you can get rid of this problem without too much trouble once you can identify it.

            • #945007

              Doc, that’s very kind of you. I am not getting any help so far over on the HJT forum. Here is the log file as an attachment.

              Thanks again. Douglas

            • #945053

              Hey Douglas,

              These two entries trouble me because I couldn’t find out what they were on Google. Do you recognize or know what coygezhh.dll is associated with ??

              O2 – BHO: (no name) – {82948568-39AA-6E27-ABFD-6C134A8E66C3} – C:WINDOWSsystem32coygezhh.dll
              O2 – BHO: (no name) – {83948568-39DE-1853-ABF3-6213308766CD} – C:WINDOWSsystem32coygezhh.dll

              Also this one. Same questions about ejqssx.dll.

              O2 – BHO: (no name) – {D6C7826D-3C8A-1504-AFF3-6213308767C4} – C:WINDOWSsystem32ejqssx.dll

              And this one. No name, no file ……. no use that I can see.

              O3 – Toolbar: (no name) – {014DA6C9-189F-421a-88CD-07CFE51CFF10} – (no file)

              And this. Do you know what it is ?? What it does ?? Is Ehnkkd listed in Add/Remove Programs ??

              O4 – HKLM..Run: [Fqkjozs] C:Program FilesEhnkkdVgpn.exe

              This as well. Recognize Enae or baat.exe ??

              O4 – HKCU..Run: [Enae] C:Documents and SettingsLittle KahunaApplication Databaat.exe

              This one is trouble and you should try to remove MyWebSearchBar from Add/Remove Programs.

              O8 – Extra context menu item: &Search – http://bar.mywebsearch.com/menusearch.html?p=ZSYYYYYYBBUS

              These two are references to adware that is no longer present.

              O9 – Extra button: (no name) – {120E090D-9136-4b78-8258-F0B44B4BD2AC} – C:WINDOWSsystem32ms.exe (file missing)
              O9 – Extra ‘Tools’ menuitem: MaxSpeed – {120E090D-9136-4b78-8258-F0B44B4BD2AC} – C:WINDOWSsystem32ms.exe (file missing)

              Please understand. I’m offering these entries as possible sources of trouble. I’m not telling you to remove them with HijackThis or any other program just yet. The entries are all suspicious in a general sense, but each PC configuration is different and each person must deceide what tradeoffs they will accept to use some programs that come bundled with adware. Go back to the HijackThis forum and “bump” your question back to the top of the list and continue to wait for a reply. Go back and bump your post each day until someone picks it up. They’re volunteers like us, so be patient.

              I would also go to Add/Remove Programs and remove Weatherbug. It comes in with AOL Instant Messenger and is adware junk you don’t want. It’s an optional install so tell your kids or whoever uses the IM client to read the prompts when upgrading or installing and say NO to the stuff they don’t understand or programs that want to install when you install something else unless they are necessary to your program. If you simply can’t wait, then be certain to backup any files you care about and then post back here and I’ll suggest which entries can be removed safely. There are several that I’m very sure are safe to remove, but would prefer to wait for conformation from the other forum or you telling me that you can’t wait and have done the backups I request. HTH.

            • #945078

              Doc,

              Thanks for taking the time to look through this junk. I add the following, not as a justification, but rather just as “information” that might explain the rash of stuff found on this PC. This box is my 12 year old son’s. We built it together (kind of) so that he would move off the family computer which he tended to fill (and foul) up. So far, the lectures about “careful and responsible” computer use have fallen on barren ground. He is a gizmo addict and tends to download anything that strikes his fancy. I have removed WeatherBug more than once from the family PC and he adamantly declares that he “uses” it.

              I am of two minds over this. Obviously, I wish he was wiser when it comes to computers and downloading, but how does one become wise? Not from listening to one’s parents (as I recall). So, to some extent, I think he has to learn from experience (a work in progress). I am bothered by this current situation, because I cannot determine what is causing the DEP error and that particular problem prevents access to the “add/remove” module of the control panel. So that option is out until we get past the DEP error.

              Once again, I appreciate your time and efforts on this. One additional question. How does one “bump” one’s post on the HJT forum? I know that everyone is a volunteer and I do not wish to be a whiney suplicant, but there are so many posts on that forum that in the course of one day, an entry is buried several pages back.

              TIA, Douglas

            • #945142

              Douglas,

              I’m glad you clarified who the box belongs to. That explains alot and also gives us a bit more latitude with our handling of the situation. My experience is that 12 year olds don’t have much in the way of “critical” data to worry about. That’s not to say that I would not respect his data in my efforts. Just that I can be a bit less “sure” about something and know I’m not going to block access to the only copy of a doctoral thesis or irreplaceable family photographs. grin And if something were to happen ………… as you so wisely pointed out, you don’t recall learning anything from your parents lectures, but the experiences of life’s mistakes….. GREAT Teacher !!! We first need to get back control of the system. So if you are willing I’ll give it a shot and see if we can clean this up.

              Run another HijackThis scan and this time when it finishes have it remove the following items …………
              O2 – BHO: (no name) – {82948568-39AA-6E27-ABFD-6C134A8E66C3} – C:WINDOWSsystem32coygezhh.dll
              O2 – BHO: (no name) – {83948568-39DE-1853-ABF3-6213308766CD} – C:WINDOWSsystem32coygezhh.dll
              O2 – BHO: (no name) – {D6C7826D-3C8A-1504-AFF3-6213308767C4} – C:WINDOWSsystem32ejqssx.dll
              O3 – Toolbar: (no name) – {014DA6C9-189F-421a-88CD-07CFE51CFF10} – (no file)
              O4 – HKLM..Run: [Fqkjozs] C:Program FilesEhnkkdVgpn.exe
              O4 – HKCU..Run: [Enae] C:Documents and SettingsLittle KahunaApplication Databaat.exe
              O9 – Extra button: (no name) – {120E090D-9136-4b78-8258-F0B44B4BD2AC} – C:WINDOWSsystem32ms.exe (file missing)
              O9 – Extra ‘Tools’ menuitem: MaxSpeed – {120E090D-9136-4b78-8258-F0B44B4BD2AC} – C:WINDOWSsystem32ms.exe (file missing)

              Reboot the system and see how much, if any functionality you get back. Also be sure that the system is not connected to the internet (unplug the cable or phone line) while you are doing this. Then run another HijackThis scan and post the results as an attachment.

              One last thing. Some of the things I checked out had to do with translation and looking at webpages in your “native” language. Any clue what that is all about ?? If it’s something particular to your situation I’ll avoid anything with a reference to that.

            • #945349

              I ran the HJT program and deleted the items listed in your post.

              The good news is that the system was able to reboot and I was able to log into my son’s environment. The bad news is that the DEP error kicked in when I tried to open Explorer. So the problem still exists. I reran Hijack and saved a new log which I have attached. I have to run out and do errands this morning. Will check back upon return. I certainly appreciate all the help you folks have given.

              Douglas

            • #945363

              Douglas,

              Glad to hear that you got back in. fanfare You didn’t say how much control you have over the machine so I’ll assume you can do most basic things. I would next recommend that you try to uninstall MyWebSearch from the machine. It is questionable as to the true nature of the program and whether or not it is spyware/adware, but it may be interfering with some things and is definitely not necessary. I found these instructions here. The last line I’d be suspicious of. Help from the people who are promoting the program?? doh See if this helps and then post back. Good Luck crossfingers

              “First close all open browser windows. Then click ‘Start’ menu, then select ‘Control Panel’ and open the ‘Add/Remove Programs’ option. Find “My Search Bar” in the list of programs, and click ‘Change/Remove’ and follow the prompts to remove them. Other components to look for and remove are:

              My Web Search (Smiley Central or FWP product as applicable)
              My Way Speedbar (Smiley Central or other FWP as applicable)
              My Way Speedbar (AOL and Yahoo Messengers) (beta users only)
              My Way Speedbar (Outlook, Outlook Express, and IncrediMail)
              Search Assistant – My Way
              Fun Web Products Easy Installer
              Reboot your PC to ensure the uninstall process is complete.

              If required you can change your browser home page by clicking Tools > Internet Options on your browser.

              This procedure should completely remove MySearch and MyWebSearch. If you do have any problems removing MyWebSearch/MySearch, NoAdware Customer Support is happy to personally assist any of its registered users to manually remove MyWebSearch or MySearch, if that’s what you want.”

            • #945532

              Doc, it’s late at night and I am beat, so I won’t try anything tonight. Tomorrow (when son is off to school) I may have time to try your latest fix.

              BTW, I can only do file related things in “safe” mode. Still can’t get explorer to function in regular mode without the DEP error.

              Douglas

            • #945802

              Douglas,

              I ran your second log through the HijackThis’ “auto check system” and it gave me these results ….

              Remove These –

              C:Program FilesViewpointViewpoint ManagerViewMgr.exe
              Do you know this site? –> R1 – HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Search Bar = file://C:WINDOWSsystem32SearchBar.htm
              Do you know this site? –> R1 – HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerMain,Search Page =
              O4 – HKLM..Run: [BearShare] “C:Program FilesBearSharebearshare.exe” /pause
              O4 – HKLM..Run: [ViewMgr] C:Program FilesViewpointViewpoint ManagerViewMgr.exe
              O4 – HKCU..Run: [NCLAUNCH] C:WINDOWSNCLAUNCH.EXe
              O23 – Service: WUSB54Gv4SVC – Unknown owner – C:Program FilesLinksys Wireless-G USB Wireless Network MonitorWLService.exe” “WUSB54Gv4.exe (file missing) <– Always Remove
              O23 – Service: X10 Device Network Service (x10nets) – Unknown owner – C:PROGRA~1ATIMUL~1RemCtrlx10nets.exe (file missing) <– Always Remove

              The bold text items were links in their report. The took you to information about the file or process. HTH smile

            • #946422

              (Edited by HansV to make URL clickable – see Help 19)

              Doc,

              I finally got time to work on son’s PC. I recieved a response from GeeksToGo (like HiJack This) regarding my HJT log which was posted there. This is the link to the thread (http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/Lost_Explor…ror-t21731.html%5B/url%5D). As you can see if you go to the bottom, they closed the thread because of a “crack” found on my son’s PC.

              Now, I am not terribly surprized that something like that would turn up on his PC. I have spoken to him and he denies any knowledge of where such a thing might have come from.

              As far as the claim that the Windows copy on his PC is illegal, that I will contest. I have the bonified Windose CD with installation code purchased when we built the PC. I have emailed the person who closed the post saying as much and asking what I must do to prove our innocense (no response yet). I am posting this to update you on the progress of this knotty problem.

              The CleanUp program mentioned in the post did restore a bunch of diskspace (over 1 GB) and I found that quite interesting.

              Anyway, the problem is still there and now we have a “crack” issue too. Sigh.

              Douglas

            • #946432

              Hi Douglas,

              I checked that thread out and they were on track to get things straightened out for you. Unfortunately, your son has been mucking about with BearShare, a peer-to-peer file sharing program (I noticed it in the log you posted here too) and has downloaded a .zip file supposedly containing cracks for MS programs like Windows XP 2003, Office 11 and Longhorn Pro Professional Home Server Enterprise, but actually contains a Trojan Horse virus and is likely the source of most of your troubles.

              As to his denials, I have to be very suspicious here, because the file was in two places when found by the Panda scan. On his desktop, and in the Shared folder that is part of BearShare, where only files that he, or someone who uses his computer and BearShare, are downloaded to.

              The reason I say he knew is simple. The file was hidden on the desktop inside a file named Misc.zip where it must have been copied for easier access. The original .zip file is in the Shared folder (or was until Panda cleaned it). I’d bet that if you checked the properties of each file you’d find the file in the Shared folder was created first.

              Here are the file paths from the log. Use Windows Explorer to check and see if the files are still there or if Panda removed them. If they’re still there, check the file properties.
              C:Documents and SettingsLittle KahunaDesktopMisc.zip[Microsoft Product Activation Crack All Products Office 11 Windows Xp 2003 Longhorn Pro Professional Home Server Enterprise.zip][Microsoft Product Activation Crack All Products Office 11 Windows Xp 2003 and
              C:Documents and SettingsLittle KahunaSharedMicrosoft Product Activation Crack All Products Office 11 Windows Xp 2003 Longhorn Pro Professional Home Server Enterprise.zip[Microsoft Product Activation Crack All Products Office 11 Windows Xp 2003 Longhorn Pr

              Then ask your son what’s been going on and ask for a more plausable explaination from him than the one I just gave you.

              I believe that your copy of Windows is legit and that your son has been playing Hacker with limited knowledge of how to do it. yep Good Luck with this increasingly sticky wicket !! Post back and let us know how you make out with your son and with GeeksToGo. If you PM Kat, the administrator, tell her of my / your suspicions and ask what to do to prove that your copy is legit they may understand and have mercy on you. crossfingers

            • #947395

              Hello All,

              I am happy to report that the Explorer problem has been solved on my son’s PC. It is now functioning normally to all apperances. This is due to the diligent efforts of the good folks over on the Geeks2Go website (http://www.geekstogo.com/) who helped me through iteration after iteration of KillBox and ewido and cleanup and Spybot and AdAware and Hijack This runs. I am not sure which piece of code got removed for the fix, but it was something I did yesterday (multiple runs of the above programs interspersed with postings of logs for examination).

              I also wish to thank the good folks here who also took the time to help me out in the early stages of this battle. You guys are a great resource to those of us who get caught up in the computing snarls of our own making.

              I do have one remaining problem and wonder if anyone here might have a solution. My son’s profile folder under Documents and Settings is set to “private” and I can’t change it. When I go to the “Sharing” tab on the properties box, I see that it is set to “private” but it is greyed out and unchangable. I have searched far and wide to find the key to this puzzle but have not been successful. If anyone could share some light on this, I would be grateful.

              Thanks again, Douglas

            • #947405

              Hey Douglas !!

              That’s great news !!! joy I’m glad you were able to get the help you needed. Those folks on those forums are very dedicated and do a super job when they finally are able to get to you. They are Soooo busy !!!

              I think you’ll find the solution to your file permissions quandry here. The instructions for XP Home are about halfway down the page. You have to make the changes in Safe Mode HTH smile

            • #947418

              Doc,

              I have already looked at the options listed in the linked article. Regarding making the folder (and sub-folders) private, it says “To do this browse to C:Documents and Settings then right-click the folder that carries your user name. Select Properties from the menu and choose the Sharing tab. Under

            • #947423

              Douglas,

              When you start in Safe Mode, are you doing this after you log on to your son’s profile ?? …. “right-click a file or folder, choose Properties and select the Security tab. This will display a dialog detailing all the user accounts that are present on your system. You

            • #947434

              Doc,

              When I go into Safe Mode on my son’s PC, I log into his profile (no password necessary). Once there, I locate his profile root folder under Documents and Settings. How I get there can vary. I can go to My Computer > Drive C > Documents and Settings > Son’s Profile, or some other route. The end result appears to be the same.

              Once there, I right click on the folder and select properties. The tabs available in Safe Mode are the same for the first and third tab, but the second tab reads “Security” in Safe Mode vs. “Sharing” in regular mode. Clicking the Security tab shows two windows. The upper one contains two User names, my son’s profile name and SYSTEM.

              The lower window contains a list of permissions (Full Control, Modify, Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, Read, Write, and Special). To the right are check boxes that either grant or deny permissions for each option. With the exception of the last option, “Special”, all the options have check marks in the “Grant” column. The Special option is controlled through the Advanced button. I have not changed any of the settings as it appears that all rights are granted already. Am I missing something?

              Douglas

            • #947447

              [indent]


              Am I missing something?


              [/indent]
              Yep !! You didn’t follow all the instructions ….

              If you

            • #947448

              Maybe I am confused – wouldn’t be the first time. I thought I “was” looking at the Security tab (as described in the last paragraph of my last post). At least the tab said “Security” on it. Am I in the wrong spot?

              Dazed and cornfuzed, Douglas

            • #947455

              Nope. I’m the confused one here. hairout laugh

              Let’s try this. Open My Computer and click Tools -> Folder Options. Select the View tab and under Advanced Settings scroll down and check

            • #947463

              Doc,

              When I go to My Computer > Tools > Folder Options > View, there is no option called “Use simple file sharing (recommended)”. The closest to that might be “Display simple folder view in Explorer’s Folder list (which is checked). Unchecking it has no effect on clearing the “Private” check box (unless one has to reboot after unchecking it).

              Are we looking at the same version of XP? I am running Home Edition.

              D.

            • #947471

              We are using different versions of XP (I’m running Pro) but that shouldn’t matter with this setting. Scroll all the way down to the bottom of the list. That’s where it is on mine.

            • #947481

              Doc,
              That option is NOT used on the Home version.

              DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
              Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

            • #947488

              Thanks Dave. I was beginning to suspect that. Douglas is very competent and I just wanted to be sure he wasn’t simply “missing” something. Everything I’ve read tells me that the option is set by default in XP Home.

              I was going to suggest that he setup his own account on the machine as an administrator and block acess to his profile. That way, he will always (almost) have unfettered access to the system and all of it’s settings and can’t be permissioned out by his son.

              Editied by Doc to add … It would also allow him to backup his son’s data and then delete the boy’s profile and create a new profile for him and restore his data. He may lose some of his settings and have to do some tweaking, but it’s a small price to pay for what he put his dad through getting the system back in order for him. ‘Course, that’s just my 2cents. smile

            • #947474

              Quick question … is this system formatted to FAT32 or NTFS ?? This could be the reason you are having trouble. In order to set file permission in windows XP Home, the file system must be NTFS or already be converted to NTFS.

              I’m gonna have a look at the MSKB article on configuring file sharing and see if I come up with something.

            • #947480

              Went there … did that. No Joy !!! Poked around a bit and think there may be an answer in How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP. crossfingers

            • #947493

              Whoa boy. I am in BIG trouble now. I screwed up access to my kid’s profile. I went into the article mentioned in the link (Taking control….) and did as they suggested. I booted to Safe Mode, logged into my profile, right clicked on my son’s profile folder, went to properties, security, advanced, ownership, and proceeded to grab control of the folder. This worked like a charm and the folder was no longer protected. All good so far.

              But, when I rebooted into normal mode and went in on my son’s profile, a whole fresh profile emerged without access to any of his programs or data files. Going into explore shows that his old profile folder and subs is still there but access is denied to him. His new profie has the same folder name with a period followed by the computer name (in this case Little Kahuna.JOEBERT).

              If I can’t figure out how to reverse this before he gets home, I am going to have a VERY serious situation on my hands.

              I tried to go back into Safe Mode and undo the takeover by assigning ownership to the Administrators group, but that did not reestablish his profile.

              If you have any ideas on how to fix this, I am all ears. Douglas

            • #947496

              Oh boy !! Is his profile folder in Safe Mode “LittleKahuna.JOBERT” ?? If so, perhaps you can recreate the LittleKahuna profile as an administrator and then take ownership by logging in under the new profile in Safe Mode. If it’s still LittleKahuna then create a new profile name and do the deed.

            • #947510

              The file structure under Documents and Settings is:
              Big Kahuna
              Little Kahuna
              Little Kahuna.JOBERT
              Sister Kahuna

              The folder icon next to Little Kahuna has a hand under the folder as if it was holding it. Don’t know what that means. I can see the contents of Little Kahuna when I am logged in as Big Kahuna (I assume since that is the profile that seized ownership of the Little Kahuna folder).

              I will try booting into Safe Mode, logging on as Little Kahuna and trying to retake control. I’ll let you know how it goes.

              D.

            • #947520

              [indent]


              The folder icon next to Little Kahuna has a hand under the folder as if it was holding it


              [/indent]If it looks like the attached icon, it means it’s a shared folder. I’ll wait on your reply before adding to the confusion. Joe’s suggestion is a particularly good idea. thumbup

            • #947527

              Hey All,

              Well, it is a hack job, but I think I fixed it. I went in as an Administrator in Safe Mode and copied all of the contents of Little Kahuna to LK.JOEBERT (this was before I saw the more elegant method proposed two posts up). When I then rebooted normally and went into my son’s profile, it looked fairly normal (not that I would describe his layout as “normal”). It took a while for all the pieces to fall into place, but it looks like it will work. I am sure I will hear about it if something does not.

              Will the brute force “copy” method work as well as the technique proposed by Joe (how apt, that is my son’s name as well)?

              D

            • #947533

              [indent]


              Joe (how apt, that is my son’s name as well)


              [/indent]You mean his name isn’t Kahuna !?!?!?? laugh Glad you got it worked out. yep From what you said when you trashed his profile, I was concerned I’d be hearing about you on the 6:00 news. grin

              The “brute force” copy should be the same as the copy command from the menu. Two roads to the same destination.

            • #947638

              Doc, Joe, Everyone,

              The job is not quite over. Joe reports that his email does not work. I will try Big Joe’s technique to see if that picks up anything I had missed previously. Then I will have to dig into OE to see if profile names are set anywhere and make the appropriate changes.

              D.

            • #947646

              Well, that didn’t work. It looks like when I tried to copy all of the files from one profile to another, I actually MOVED them. The old profile folder is empty.

              The son’s email client of choice is Outlook Express (I did set up a Mozilla Thunderbird account for him but he won’t use it). The OE client receives mail, but errors out when trying to create new, or send. It also can’t use the Address Book. It says that it is improperly installed.

              I have tried to uninstall both OE and IE using the Add/Delete Programs applet in the Control Panel. It appears that the system removes OE and IE from the menu choices, but upon reinstall, I don’t see any files being transferred and the problem remains.

              How can I really uninstall OE and then reinstall it to get a functioning email client again?

              Douglas

            • #947649

              Outlook Express is part of Internet Explorer. See How to reinstall or repair Internet Explorer and Outlook Express in Windows XP.

            • #947657

              Hans,

              I tried to do as was laid out in the MS article, but I have had no success. I did the Run: sfc /scannow which took a long time and didn’t appear to change anything.

              I did the regedits to change the IsInstalled from 1’s to 0’s. After doing that, I could still pull OE up by clicking on the Start Menu icon. The system did ask me if I wanted to “Clean Up” the personal settings now that OE had been uninstalled. I said “No” because I am afraid that “clean up” means “delete”.

              I then uninstalled OE and IE again using the Add/Remove MS Programs process. Rechecked the ReEdit settings to verify that they were still 0’s. Rebooted, reinstalled OE and IE using the control panel process and when I opened OE, it said that the address book could not load and after clearing that box another generic error box opened. I still cannot create new mail or send. Still stuck.

              D.

            • #947754

              Hi Douglas,

              Let’s see if we can’t get this minor issue straight and hopefully not lose all young Joe’s contacts in the process. Take a look at this MSKB article on restoring or reconstructing the WAB file.

            • #947861

              Doc,

              When I search my son’s PC for a *.wab file, I get nothing. Same result when I search the family PC.

              D.

            • #947862

              Douglas,

              Try C:Program FilesOutlook Expresswab.exe. to bring up the address book.

              Edited by Doc to add – The files themselves are located at C:Documents and Settings{Username}Application DataMicrosoftAddress Book

            • #947875

              Doc,

              I finally did find a copy at:

              C:Documents and SettingsLittle Kahuna.JOEBERTApplication DataMicrosoftAddress Book

              Why the search program could not find it I do not know. I checked to see if it was set for Read Only and it was not.

              I went into RegEdit as per the KnowledgeBase article and went to the location mentioned:

              HKEY_CURRENT_USERSOFTWAREMicrosoftWabWab4

              There was a setting under that folder that specified the location of the WAB file. It was the same as the above location except for the “JOEBERT” part. I modified the registery setting to point to the correct location. Then rebooted.

              OE opened but still gave the same error messages when trying to open a new mail message, open a message in the Inbox, or access the Address Book. Strangely enough when I clicked on Contacts, the Address Book listings appeared in the little window on the lower left, but OE would still not function right. Clicking on the Address Book icon produced the same errors.

              As a control test, I opened ThunderBird and was able to send and receive email just fine. Sigh. If my hair wasn’t gray already, I would claim that this kid is going to do it to me.

              Douglas

            • #947895

              Douglas,

              At this point, I’d cut my losses (even if they add to the kid’s losses) and see if you can recover any of his contacts from the address book . I’m afraid that it has become corrupt and this might prove difficult, if not impossible, to save. If you export it or back it up, and it’s corrupt, you will have a corrupt file to import or a corrupt backup. No good either way. And since you can’t open it, you can’t copy the contacts manually to a document you can save and use to copy back from.

              What happens if you remove the JOEBERT from his address book file name ?? Wasn’t that added when you tried to “take control” of his profile earlier ?? Is his new profile just LittleKahuna or is the JOEBERT extension added to it ?? That coud be that cause of all this.

              Are his contacts available in Thunderbird ?? Perhaps you could delete his .wab file and then import the contacts list from Thunderbird into a new, clean address book file for him.

              Personally, I’d remove OE from his system and tell him to use Thunderbird for awhile. Then, at my leasure, I’d try to resolve his OE troubles. I’m pretty sure it’s got something to do with a corrupt address book. One last thing to try. Create a new folder in Local Folders & call it New Mail or something. Then try to copy the messages from the Inbox to this folder and open them there. This is just a shot-in-the-dark, so post back and let me know what happens. crossfingers

            • #947511

              Douglas,

              When you are logged on as an administrator right click My Computer and Select Properties. Then click on the Advanced tab. Click on the Settings button in the “User Profiles” section of the Advanced tab. Both profiles should be listed. Slect the old one, press copy to, and select the new one. Then try logging on to your sons account again. If there is anything missing logon as an administrator and use Windows Explorer to copy what you need from his old profile to the new one. Once you are satisfied (in several days or so) that the new profile is OK you can return to the User Profiles section and delete the old profile.

              Joe

              --Joe

            • #947485

              I think you will have to log in on the kid’s account, open Windows Explorer (My Computer) and the walk yourself down to the kid’s “My Documents” folder, right click select “Properties”. Go to the “Sharing” tab and clear the check mark in the box near “Make ….Private”.

              This done, nothing will stop the kid from changing it back, and/or pass wording his account so you can not get into his account.

              DaveA I am so far behind, I think I am First
              Genealogy....confusing the dead and annoying the living

            • #947489

              He’s already tried that Dave. See Post 479370. The option is greyed out.

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