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    Looks like they fixed it.InfoWorld Woody on Windows.
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    • #48901

      @Woody,

      Confirmed…the published date for KB 3097877 is “today” on my W7 x64 machine versus the 11/10/15 time stamp for all of the other Nov. patches.

      Question is, how does a patch that breaks all Outlook versions get passed quality control and then released? Wow…

    • #48902

      It turned back up in my Win7 queue this morning (12th). Wonder if it’s fixed. I’m not trying it today!

    • #48903

      Does anybody know if this latest patch still hoses the Gadgets or is that fixed too?

      Regardless of how many times I’ve warned them I have clients that just can’t live without them.

    • #48904

      @Ed

      Haven’t seen anything definitive, but my guess is that they fixed that, too.

    • #48905

      I don’t have outlook, nor am I on a network. I installed the updates (including 3097877) yesterday (the 11th), no problems. Today I read there were some problems, but that they’d re-issued it. And today, my WU told me I had one important update to install (yep, 3097877.) So I installed it again, and the restart “froze” at the light blue “preparing to configure windows, do not turn off computer” screen. After half an hour, I took a deep breath, pulled the plug, and restarted. Thankfully, this time it configured properly and proceeded to boot normally.

      Just relaying this experience in case anyone has similar experience. PS…next time, Woody, I’ll take your advice and wait! Thanks for all you do for us.

    • #48906

      @Ike

      Whew. Good to know.

    • #48907

      The re-issued update fixed an application freeze on both my Win7 computers. I only installed the original version early Thursday (UK time) after considering the risk – I don’t use Outlook or the Win7 Sidebar – so I assumed I would be safe.

      Straight away my Tweaking.com Registry Backup program froze every time I tried to click on the X (top right) to Close the application window.

      Luckily I realized the connection and also found the reissue notification – ran Windows Update collected the new version – rebooted – and all was fixed.

      The Registry Backup application uses some fancy custom animated (rotating) icons on the window controls. I assume it was something to do with these that triggered the issue – as all was fine until the mouse approached these icons.

    • #48908

      All I can say is thank you Woody. I will keep watch for more Win 10 patches to ditch.

    • #48909

      @woody

      DOH, I wish I didn’t install that optional KB3095649 update at the end of October on all my Win7/8.1 PCs. The KB3097877 security updates include newer versions of the win32k.sys files than the ones found in KB3095649 and therefore KB3097877 DOES replace KB3095649.

    • #48910

      @EP

      Ouch. Guess everybody needs to install the new version – sooner or later.

    • #48911

      I booted Win 7 after several days of Linux and there are 29 “important” updates. KB3097877 is one of them. Should I hide this one and see if the fixed one comes back?

      I am really tired of this game. I don’t trust Microsoft because (a) they are sneaky, and (b) they are incompetent. I don’t really feel like researching each and every one of the 29 updates to see if it will break my system, install spyware, or try to install Win 10. I will never, ever buy a another computer with a Microsoft OS on it unless it is to immediately put Linux on it.

      But in the meantime I need Win 7 for some programs. Should I hide KB3097877? Do I need to check out the rest of them?

    • #48912

      JRE –

      I wouldn’t install any of them, at the moment, as long as you aren’t using Internet Explorer.

      Wait for the MS-DEFCON level to go to 3 or 4. Could be a week or two.

    • #48913

      I am about to throw out this computer. Nov 12 updates to my Windows 7 system totally screwed my WiFi Network connection.

      I uninstalled everything I could
      from that day, still no connection.

      Went back to a restore point a few days before the dreaded updates, nothing. What do I do? I need this computer for work. I need Internet access. I’ve rebooted the router, modem, etc. Nothing.

      Please help!

    • #48914

      @Lisa –

      99% likelihood that the patches didn’t kill your WiFi. (Particularly if you rolled back to an earlier restore point and it’s still screwed up.)

      Look for another cause. Lots of possibilities. The one that gets me the most often is simply accidentally turning off WiFi. Make sure your router is working. If all else fails, splurge $10 on a USB WiFi antenna and use it until you can figure out the source of the problem.

    • #48915

      Well, how can my partner’s computer be fine on the same network, and mine not? WiFi is on. I didn’t switch it off. It only happened after the updates.

      I guess I’ll have to call someone to fix it. I can’t figure it out.

    • #48916

      @Lisa –

      Much easier and cheaper to use a USB WiFi antenna. That’ll take the pressure off, until you figure out what happened. And they’re cheap – much cheaper than having a tech fix the original one.

    • #48917

      @Lisa
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      @Woody

      Most likely it was the “KB3097966” which seems to mess with randomly-unknown and various network adapters and your WIFI settings.
      I’ve noticed something over the years about WinVista and Win7 on WIFI settings? It seems as though, “restores” don’t always correct such changes – I’ve often wondered if they felt, (ignorantly assumed) that the present internet settings “must be” okay – and it’d be better not to change those if the system is having a problem needing a restore?
      What I’ve found is, uninstalling the WIFI adapter, plugging it back in, and letting windows use it’s generic driver will often put things aright. On a desktop with multiple usb ports, just changing the port will cause win7 to rewrite? or install? the adapter settings to that new port. Not sure how that works, but I know if I ever switch the usb devices around, win7 goes through its “your device is ready to use” scenario.

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      And Woody, I have to say, after all these years of watching you “not jump on the bandwagons” I’m kinda’ dissappointed to see you jumping on the 10atiously 10uous 10ebrious Windows Ten.
      I’ll bet your predictions or shall I say, “concerns” about future selfemployment of ads will prove to go way beyond anything we’ve imagined, and I still believe this is “The” tool for the sheep, to follow suit with such things as healthcare information, and other government-corporate deployed collection activities of private information/tracking etc. It is not “silly” tinfoil hat material to believe these ***** hopes are to collect, ALL data that’s on every digital device that ever connects to the beloved (stormy) cloud.

    • #48918

      @Reynolds –

      I accept my tinfoil hat roots, and still listen to that voice inside my head.

      But I’m also looking toward the future.

      At the crux of it, the question: Is Windows 10 worth giving away some of my privacy? So far, I’m uneasy but willing to go along for the ride – kicking and screaming every inch of the way.

      Your answer may well be very different – and just as valid.

    • #48919

      @Woody

      “Is Windows 10 worth giving away some of my privacy? ”

      Installed Zorin OS 9 Lite on an old HP laptop today. And Mint Cinnamon 17.2 on a Dell desktop yesterday. And cobbled together an Android 4.4.4 KitKat build for one of my Acer netbooks while watching the Thanksgiving day parade and the dog show Thursday…

      Yep, I’m starting to worry less and less about Microsoft shenanigans.

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