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    I have a ATT HOTSPOT that I use to connect my computors when I’m traveling. This month, usage has move than doubled our previous high, when I don’t think it should have hit the 5gb as we have been using our daughters wi-fi at least half the time.
    I thought I had read something in the newsletter about software to monitor your WIFI connection and give you an idea what is using bandwidth for what.
    I have gone back several issues and don’t find what I thought I read, and have had no luck with a search.

    Does anybody have any suggestions?
    Thanks.

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    • #1417726

      Depends on where you need to monitor. If you only use one or two PCs you can load software on each PC that monitors network traffic. If you have a lot of computers you need to put something between the hotspot device and your network to monitor the traffic (m0n0wall or pfSense etc).
      What is your set up?

      cheers, Paul

    • #1417855

      inSSIDer from MetaGeek

    • #1417889

      Here’s a simple meter that will measure bandwidth.
      It’s a small lightweight app. Probably too simple for your needs.

      Article: How To Check If Someone Is Stealing Your WiFi & What You Can Do About It (James Bruce ✎On 13th February, 2011)

      Your best bet would be to get away from using WEP, and or turn off your wifi when not in use.

      • #1417950

        I am not using WEP, and this is not a case of somebody stealing my WI-FI. This is more of a case of what the heck is using all my bandwidth.
        I have already figured out that MSN homepage is using up bandwidth if you leave it up, even if nobody is using it.
        I turned of MSN for my wifes homepage, and have her simply come up in her mail. If she wants to look at anything else, she starts a new tab and closes when she is done.
        According to the Hotspot, we used amost 1/2 a gb (out of 5) yesterday, just doing what she normally does (mail, ancestry research via searches from the PC based program, etc). Up until last month, we could go most months and never hit the 5 gb.
        If we were someplace where we had both PCs using the Hotspot, we might hit 6 gb in a whole month.
        Last month, we hit 11 gb, and part of the time the laptop was at my daughters and we were using her WIFI.
        Something has radically changed.
        We don’t do YouTube, Video news clips, and stay as far away from news articles with automatic videos embedded in them as we can.
        (If anybody knows how to stop those cotton picken auto start videos from running, I sure would like to know)
        What I am looking for is a way to monitor usage inside of the laptop. I thought I read something in Windows Secrets awhile back about a program that would track and analysis your PC/Network and give you a clue.

    • #1417973

      Netlimiter?

      cheers, Paul

    • #1418150

      I am not using WEP, and this is not a case of somebody stealing my WI-FI. This is more of a case of what the heck is using all my bandwidth.
      I have already figured out that MSN homepage is using up bandwidth if you leave it up, even if nobody is using it.

      Process explorer/Monitor, Window’s task manager, & TCPView can all be helpful in tracking down those apps and Windows processes that are eating away at your limited wifi.
      If nothing has changed in your installed applications then a thorough AV/AM scan would be in order.
      I also recommend going through all your installed programs to determine which of those have “phone home” capabilities that can be curtailed.
      Newer operating system’s like Windows 8’s start tile apps can be configured to limit their access as well. (they can eat into a limited internet access quite easily)

      • #1418644

        I’m running Win 7 64bit. I had already ran a couple of different scanners with no hits, so didn’t think I had a bug.
        I’ve been pretty careful with installations and either not installed or turned off programs and services that might be phoning home.
        I installed NetLimiter and haven’t found any huge problems, but did confirm something that I found just checking ‘status’ on my network icon on the taskbar.
        The browsers (MSN is worse than Yahoo), eat up bandwidth when the are just setting on their homepage. My wife would go to MSN first thing, then a new tab would get opened for mail, then another. Then she would start up her research program and eventually get a couple of more tabs opened. The homepage would get left up for several hours and just keep nibbling away at the bandwidth.
        I’ll just keep NetLimiter running and maybe I will be able to find something as we cruise along.

        Thanks for the suggestions.

        • #1418810

          The browsers (MSN is worse than Yahoo), eat up bandwidth when the are just setting on their homepage. My wife would go to MSN first thing, then a new tab would get opened for mail, then another. Then she would start up her research program and eventually get a couple of more tabs opened. The homepage would get left up for several hours and just keep nibbling away at the bandwidth.

          Yes, the MSN homepage (also Yahoo and many others) “refresh” themselves frequently and keep changing some graphics to highlight different news stories, etc. All of that stuff is using up bandwidth. If you can find a homepage you like without all the graphic stuff it’s probably safe to leave that up while doing other things. One method could be to look for a Personalize option or a MY MSN option that lets you choose what content appears on the page. I have done that on Yahoo resulting in a My Yahoo startpage with groups of headlines/subjects grouped in categories such as World News, US News, Top Headlines, Sports News, etc. It doesn’t refresh often and there are few, if any, graphics.
          Good luck!

          • #1418976

            Since we stopped going to a homepage when we open the browser, and have kept it closed when not actually reading something, the ‘data remaining’ line on the HotSpot and NetLimiter information have looked a whole lot better. Just for kicks, I left MSN homepage up for over 4 hours (we were using my daughters WIFI) and just let the PC set with nobody using it. Netlimiter says the IE used about 3/10 GB (between uploads and downloads) in that time period. Leaving the machine set with Yahoo Mail open in IE for a couple of hours used a few kb.

            I’m still looking for a way to stop the automatic videos that play when we go to read an article (or worse yet, find out there is no article just a video). We never watch the videos and generally just backout when we see there is a video. They appear to just keep downloading even if you pause them after the commercial.

            • #1419001

              The real problem, as I see it, is that the monitoring of the bandwidth used by individual and all fixed and wireless network connections should be done at and by your router, rather than at each individual device, to which you may not have easy access or an adequate monitoring program installed.

              As far as I can see, there are no routers which have this capability, which I consider to be a major flaw.

              BATcher

              Plethora means a lot to me.

            • #1419454

              Since…

              I’m still looking for a way to stop the automatic videos that play when we go to read an article (or worse yet, find out there is no article just a video). We never watch the videos and generally just backout when we see there is a video. They appear to just keep downloading even if you pause them after the commercial.

              What i do is to disable the flashplayer plug ins via the add-ins tool page of the browser. in firefox or palemoon, just go to file menu, click tools>add-ins. then scroll down to flashplayer and disable it or them.

              If you want to be doubly insured that flashplayer does not run w/o your permission, you can uninstall the whole darn program via the adobe’s uninstaller.

            • #1422208

              I’m still looking for a way to stop the automatic videos that play when we go to read an article (or worse yet, find out there is no article just a video). We never watch the videos and generally just backout when we see there is a video. They appear to just keep downloading even if you pause them after the commercial.

              Try using Firefox 25.0 with NoScript ver 2.6.8.5 (http://noscript.net/);this combination should effectively halt the automatic videos.:)

            • #1427690

              Don’t know if Geezer1 is coming back to this thread, but sounds like Adblock Plus would do the job of blocking those ad videos and changing the home page to http://www.google.com but it would depend if the MSN and/or Yahoo pages were preferred for the news items.

    • #1418700

      there are a number of reasons why your systems are using more bandwidth than expected. one reason are windows updates. others can be spywares. others can be antivirals (and other programs) that are configured to do daily checks for updates and then automatically download them. and then there is a possibility that your systems are connected to the cloud, like google drive, and files are being saved to your local google drive folder which are then uploaded to the cloud. and yet there is still more behind the scenes activities that can be found via your task manager control panel.

      so i would not bother with installing more software which in itself could be more spyware.

      instead i would begin by uninstalling software that you don’t need and reconfiguring software that is already running by turning off their automatic checks for updates and downloads. also, if you accounts on the cloud, i would temporarily change the password online “but not change the passwords” for them on your local system. then if an error pops up on your desktop because something or another can’t log in, then this will be a clue revealed to you.

      otherwise, if none of the above pans out as being erroneous user settings or malware, then i would switch to an internet service that gives you more bandwidth or unlimited bandwidth. measuring bandwidth for your machines that are connected to the wooorld wiiiide web, is a waste of valuable time on earth.

      • #1418974

        Windows and a couple of other programs are the only ones set up to automaticallycheck for updates. Nobody is allowed to automatically download and install.

        This laptop is primarily used by my wife and her ID is not set up for admin, so she can’t apply any updates. If there is anything besides a few kb of virus/mw definitions, I generally take it to a location where I can use WIFI. Under her ID, there are a minimal number of programs even installed and operational.

        We don’t have anything using clouds, and we don’t use anything Google. (I just spent several hours convincing Windows 8.1 on my daughters new ACER R7 Aspire, that we weren’t using a MS ID for login, we weren’t using Skydrive, we weren’t doing automatic anything, and we weren’t having a bunch of tiles updating all the time)

        We are fulltime RVer’s (over 5 years), and using anybody besides ATT and Verizon for HotSpots doesn’t work out too well. We have talked to alot of folks who have tried different vendors, and either don’t get as good of coverage, have poorer performance, and have talked to several whos thoughput was throttled when they went over 2.5 GB.

        We don’t get throttled, just charged $10 a Gig when we go over 5 Gig.

        We may go 2 or 3 months using nothing but the HotSpot (using the laptop and my desktop), then we may go 2 or 3 months where we have WiFi 24/7. For the last two months, we have been using the HotSpot where the RV is parked, but taking the laptop to my daughters during the day (and applying it’s updates, and downloading new versions of software for both machines to my external drive). That’s why the 11 gb was a big surprise.

    • #1418772

      Hi geezer1
      I hope you find the problem, in the meantime however if you would like to know how much bandwidth you are using and actually watch it as it comes and goes, this is what I use, NetSpeedMonitor. Its very small and sits along side your clock. It monitors all traffic coming and going 24/7. kbit/s in, kbits out, per month, day, and session. It lists your controller and system up time. Not many bells and whistles, but it does what it says. http://netspeedmonitor.en.softonic.com/

    • #1418838

      With your browser open click on Options, go to Internet Options,
      on the general tab, I.E. settings, under browser history settings,
      (check for newer versions of stored pages) select Every time I visit the web page.
      Exit IE to effect the changes.

      the default in IE is to automatically update all the stored webpages
      stop the pages from updating in the back ground without your knowledge

    • #1419303

      I stop auto video play by preventing Flash running. I use Firefox and have a plug-in called FlashBlock which puts a “play” icon in place of the flash item and if I want to see it I press play. I’m sure there will be a Flash blocker for IE.

      cheers, Paul

    • #1419331

      I’m still looking for a way to stop the automatic videos that play when we go to read an article (or worse yet, find out there is no article just a video). We never watch the videos and generally just backout when we see there is a video. They appear to just keep downloading even if you pause them after the commercial.

      Disable “shockwave flash Object” from inside IE’s “Manage add-ons” section.

    • #1419350

      BATcher – True, but in my case, there is no router involved, Just my 3G/4G HotSpot.
      Paul T – Clint – I disabled ‘Flash’ in ‘Manage add-ons’ and it doesn’t stop the videos. What it did screw up was a couple of my wifes research sites that use Flash to display documents (i.e. fold3.com and newspapers.com}. Based on that a ‘flash blocker’ doesn’t sound like a solution. I like the idea of seeing a icon that I can press if I want to watch the video, but the videos in Yahoo and MSN news kept on playing with flash disabled, so I don’t know what they run with. Did notice a couple of ads that no longer came up, so some of them are using flash.

    • #1419399

      Maybe they run with Silverlight?

      cheers, Paul

    • #1419432

      I don’t see Silverlight in ‘Manage Ad-ons’, but do see it as an installed program. The dialog box does’nt show anyway to disable.
      Any ideas. Not familiar with Silverlight.

    • #1419448

      Then that leaves Adobe Flash

    • #1419456

      It could be HTML5 video, but I can’t find a way to disable it in IE except to switch to compatibility mode on the site concerned.

      cheers, Paul

    • #1419462

      If I disable Flash, then websites like fold3.com won’t run because Flash isn’t ‘installed’.
      However, I found that if you double click on Flash in ‘Manage Ad-on’, it brings up a dialog box which gives you the option of removing permission from all pages. When a page
      comes up that wants Flash, you get the little yellow IE dialog at the bottom of the screen that says it need’s Flash and gives you the option of allowing one time or every time.
      I clicked ‘always’ for fold3.com and it works (with no more nagging).
      Unfortunately, there isn’t an option for never, so you get this box every time on pages you don’t giver permission to (i.e. Yahoo home page).

      This made several video adds disappear on my Yahoo home page. I went to a couple of news articles that had been showing movies and they were gone (not even a blank spot).
      Then I clicked on a third one, and there was one of those video clips that you can’t pause and you can’t turn down.

    • #1419799

      Have you tried compatibility mode?

      cheers, Paul

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