Moving from 1809 to 1903 Revisited

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I saw a post from Woody today stating that upgrading from 1809 to 1903 is now considered advisable for home users. I participated in a LONG thread on this topic some time ago when I was trying to create a bootable USB with 1903 on it in preparation for this day. For a number of reasons, none of which I can recall, I was never able to create the required USB. I also tried at one point fairly recently to upgrade using the Woody-recommended method of setting a certain number of days delay in the SAC, but nothing ever downloaded to wushowhide. So, is there any way I can accomplish the 1809 to 1903 upgrade, or should I just wait for the OK on 1909?

Thanks!

 

D. Eager

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doneager wrote:

So, is there any way I can accomplish the 1809 to 1903 upgrade,

If you are on Pro version the defer feature updates between 50-120 days and quality updates to 0.
On home you can just download the ISO file (using HiDoc.net…) and run the setup.exe from your current 1809.

I used the first method and got 1903 after Windows 10 daily checked for updates, with 0 problems.

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Once you get the ISO for the version you want, you can within Windows right click on it to mount it, and then from the mounted drive run the setup.exe .  You do not have to create a DVD or USB, although they are useful as a bootable recovery environment, and can perform repair or clean installs.

Getting the ISO – heidoc, normally.   If that isn’t working, fido is a powershell script.

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doneager wrote:

So, is there any way I can accomplish the 1809 to 1903 upgrade

Try Aveyo’s batch file. It will ask what version you want.
https://pastebin.com/bBw0Avc4

cheers, Paul

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Thanks to the two of you who responded to my inquiry.

Regarding “heidoc” I think I tried to use this before. It is a website, correct? I recall that where I ran into a problem last time was when I tried to put the downloaded ISO onto a USB for future use, awaiting clearance from Woody it update. Could NOT get that to work. Am I correct that if I go there now, I can just download 1903 (x64) then go to Downloads folder and right click the file to “mount” it. Not sure exactly what that means. Do I have to move the file from Downloads to somewhere else? Where? After it’s been moved, do I go to the new location and double-click setup.exe to execute it? Do I need to turn off metered connection, change SAC Feature from 365, or involve wushowhide in any way?

Regarding the batch file, I looked at it but it seems WAY too complicated.

Your help is really appreciated.

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Unfortunately Heidoc doesn’t seem to be working at the moment. See this thread.

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Just downloaded 1903 (x64) September edition from there. Seemed to work fine!

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Be sure to disconnect from the Internet during the install, or there is a good chance MS will upgrade you to 1909.

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OK! Will do. Thanks.

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I have a download of 1903 but when I run the Media Creation Tool to get my ISO it installs 1909. What am I doing wrong? I just want 1903.

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[mledman]

If you already had the 1903 ISO, did you disconnect from the internet while you did the install?  If you are using the media creation tool, it will download 1909.

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When I created the ISO had previously installed from for 1903 must of turned it into 1909. I disconnected the computer I was installing the ISO and it is 1909. Is there another way?

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If you are on 1909 and want to go back to 1903, you may be able to uninstall update kb4517245.

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The Media Creation Tool, even it says 1903, will download 1909 b/c it is the current version. 1903 is no longer available through the MCT. You will have to get the 1903 ISO from Heidoc.net – download their “Windows and Office ISO Download Tool” and run it. Be sure you choose the correct Edition (Home, Pro, etc) and the correct bitedness (32 or 64 bit).

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I created a mounted USB with Rufus. Does UEFI or Legacy matter?

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dwelge wrote:

I created a mounted USB with Rufus. Does UEFI or Legacy matter?

Not for the the bootable USB, but if your machine is not set to boot UEFI you will need to use Legacy. It’s best to use whatever is your current setting.

You can find the current boot mode by running MSINFO32 and checking “BIOS Mode”.
(Win R, msinfo32)

cheers, Paul

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My machine and other machines is set to Legacy but for some reason when I ran this bootable USB it works in UEFI. Why would that be? Thanks for the replies!

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Maybe your BIOS is set to UEFI/Legacy and it switches to whatever is on the selected boot disk – which then shows up on msinfo.
You’ll need to go into the BIOS to confirm.

cheers, Paul

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Heidoc works for downloading only Win8.1 & Win10 ISOs.
It doesn’t work for downloading original Win7 SP1 ISOs as MS seems to make it nearly impossible to download W7 ISOs

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I’ve been hoping for answers to my questions posted on 1/11/20. Can original respondent please reply?

D. Eager

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Yesterday I upgraded from 1809 to 1903 without any problem (it took a while to complete).

I set the feature update deferral to 140 days and ran the Windows Update Manager by David Xanatos (it is like wushowhide.diagcab from Microsoft). This verified that the feature upgrade to 1903 was the only pending update.

Then I clicked on “Check for Updates” and the installation was off and running. It took about an hour before the Logon Screen appeared (after about 4 reboots).

I did NOT disconnect from the internet and did not get upgraded to 1909.

Once I logged in, I reset the feature update deferral back to 300 days.

To check for any quality updates, set the quality deferral to about 10 days and run the Windows Update Manager again. Now you can select any updates you want to hide and leave the remainder to update the next day (or when you “Check for Updates”)

This process works for me all the time to control what updates I allow.  Be sure to reset the quality update deferral back to about 28 when done.

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I assume this is W10 Pro? If you use Home then you can’t do deferrals so disconnecting is easiest.

cheers, Paul

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Yes Paul, I am running Win 10 Pro.  I should have included that in my original post.

 

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Hello JC, bsqrd here. I found this conversation whilst browsing Ask Woody for help with upgrading my Dell laptop from 1809 to 1903. I have been waiting for two days for Microsoft to pick up the ball to get to 1903. Currently I have feature update deferral set to 180 days( per Woody’s article in Computerworld Jan 10- which refers back to another article in November) and quality update deferral set at 10. I’m a newbie and not confident in my computer skills when it comes to wushowhide , batch files and such like.

Are you able to confirm 140 is still a good number for setting the feature update deferral? If so I could try your method tonight involving Check for Updates and get in before MS releases updates tomorrow. Woody has called foe MS-DEFCON 2

Many Thanks

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Yes 140 days will work fine. PKCano’s 120 days should work as well. There is no magic value as long as you are over about 100 days. Below that you risk getting Win 10 1909.

Good Luck

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Just used JC Zorkoff’s method on Windows 10 Pro 1809. Downloading 1903 right now.

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[EP]

anonymous wrote:

I’ve been hoping for answers to my questions posted on 1/11/20. Can original respondent please reply?

D. Eager

first off D Eager, what edition of Win10 are you using? Home or Pro?
you did not state what edition of Win10 you have in your 1st post

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Win 10 pro, 1809.

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In Win10 Pro, if you want 1903, set Feature deferrals to 120 days, set Quality deferrals to 0. Check whshowhide to see if 1903 is offered and, if so, check for updates. If 1909 is offered, hide it and check wushowhide again.

But, at the time of this post, there is only 30 minutes until the Jan updates are released by MS. If you don’t want them, you will have to hide them first.

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I think he has the 1903 ISO now.

If so, just right-click ISO (in any folder), mount, then run setup.exe.

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Sorry for not replying earlier I think I agree with the replies you have had.  Heidoc seems to be working for getting Windows 10 ISOs.  If you have the ISO, you don’t have to do anything special like moving or creating any file or folder, other than disconnect from the internet.  Double click on the ISO or right click and mount it, a new window should appear with its contents and in that click setup.exe  It is better to make a backup of your system before doing a “feature update” which is what I like to call these major updates.  However if it does fail it often successfully rolls back to your old working system.

The defer days method I don’t like as much as getting an ISO because the progress bar if any is not as helpful in telling you if the download worked or is working.  So if something fails you don’t know if it was a internet download issue or something else, and you don’t have a good estimate of how much longer parts of the job will take.

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Thanks to all who helped me with advice on this. Successfully updated from 1809 to 1903 today using the Heidoc method. No problems encountered.

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JC Zorkoff, thank you for your response on January 14.

bsqrd

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