Out of control table (Word 2000)

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Have you checked paragraph formatting? Settings such as “Keep with next” and “Keep lines together” might cause a problem.

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I have a document which conatins a table which spreads over many pages.
Originally the person who created this document put page breaks in as they went along as they were needed.
Inevitably, the table go all out of kilter and some pages just had a few lines on etc.
I went through and took out all the page breaks and joined all the bits of table back together again. Expecting that automatic pagebreaks would just do their thing.

I now have a problem in that the table wants to be all on one page – it doens’t fit, so will only print one page of a ten page document. I can split it with manual page breaks, but I would really like to use automatic page breaks.
I have tried copying and pasting all but the last line to a new document, but this has no effect.

I hope this all makes sense and that someone has and answer,

Thanks in advance,

Emily.

P.S. Just to add to that, I just tried to put in manual page breaks and I adds its own in wherever I put one in, so I end up with a blank page between pages.

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I have a document which conatins a table which spreads over many pages.
Originally the person who created this document put page breaks in as they went along as they were needed.
Inevitably, the table go all out of kilter and some pages just had a few lines on etc.
I went through and took out all the page breaks and joined all the bits of table back together again. Expecting that automatic pagebreaks would just do their thing.

I now have a problem in that the table wants to be all on one page – it doens’t fit, so will only print one page of a ten page document. I can split it with manual page breaks, but I would really like to use automatic page breaks.
I have tried copying and pasting all but the last line to a new document, but this has no effect.

I hope this all makes sense and that someone has and answer,

Thanks in advance,

Emily.

P.S. Just to add to that, I just tried to put in manual page breaks and I adds its own in wherever I put one in, so I end up with a blank page between pages.

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Hi Hans,

Thanks for your reply.
I just went in and unticked all those boxes (Except widow/orphan control) after highlighting my table.
It is still misbehaving.

Emily

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Could you attach a copy of the document? If necessary, replace the text by dummy text, and if it is too large, put it in a zip file and attach that.

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Thanks Hans,
Here it is…

Emily

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Click somewhere in the table.
Select Table | Table Properties…
In the Table tab, set the Text Wrapping option to None.

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Thanks Hans.
That worked a treat.
Emily.

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Click somewhere in the table.
Select Table | Table Properties…
In the Table tab, set the Text Wrapping option to None.

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Hi Emily,

The table is inside of a text box (or frame, I didn’t check).

From Normal View, carefully select the entire table. Choose Table -> conver to text, and press OK.

Now do Edit -> copy

Open up a new blank document, set it to landscape, and paste in the text.

Now do Table -> convert text to table, and that should take care of it.

HTH

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Hi Emily,

The table is inside of a text box (or frame, I didn’t check).

From Normal View, carefully select the entire table. Choose Table -> conver to text, and press OK.

Now do Edit -> copy

Open up a new blank document, set it to landscape, and paste in the text.

Now do Table -> convert text to table, and that should take care of it.

HTH

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I recently had a problem with a table someone here was working on. They too had put in manual page breaks, which by the way I think are totally useless, and when I took out those page breaks I had a real mess. Eventually I figured out that the table was in a frame. Is Word putting a frame in when manual page breaks are used in a lengthy table? I found it hard to understand how or why the frames were used and frankly I would be surprised that the frames were put in by the person who was working on the table. But if Word is somehow again doing a “favor” by using frames when a manual page break is used, that is something I’d like to get out to everyone to help discourage the use of manual page breaks.

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Word 2000 and later let you “draw” a table, and then move it around as though it were a drawing. Word places this kind of table in a frame. Users should be discourages from using the Draw Tables feature for serious documents and should be trained to use the ordinary properties (Table>Properties) to position and size the table, instead.

(The only way I can see to remove the frame is to convert the table to text, access Format Frame, and use the Remove Frame button. Obviously not ideal…)

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I do not use the draw table. I think it’s too much trouble. The document with the table in frames was not started as a draw table. The only thing I saw in common with this string was the manual page breaks. But your comment causes me to think that perhaps someone used that feature to copy and paste, to get the table format to the next page after their manual page break. That would explain a lot. I didn’t think the person who worked on this would be trying to put things in frames on purpose. Thanks. Now I think I know what could have caused this.

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I do not use the draw table. I think it’s too much trouble. The document with the table in frames was not started as a draw table. The only thing I saw in common with this string was the manual page breaks. But your comment causes me to think that perhaps someone used that feature to copy and paste, to get the table format to the next page after their manual page break. That would explain a lot. I didn’t think the person who worked on this would be trying to put things in frames on purpose. Thanks. Now I think I know what could have caused this.

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Word 2000 and later let you “draw” a table, and then move it around as though it were a drawing. Word places this kind of table in a frame. Users should be discourages from using the Draw Tables feature for serious documents and should be trained to use the ordinary properties (Table>Properties) to position and size the table, instead.

(The only way I can see to remove the frame is to convert the table to text, access Format Frame, and use the Remove Frame button. Obviously not ideal…)

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I recently had a problem with a table someone here was working on. They too had put in manual page breaks, which by the way I think are totally useless, and when I took out those page breaks I had a real mess. Eventually I figured out that the table was in a frame. Is Word putting a frame in when manual page breaks are used in a lengthy table? I found it hard to understand how or why the frames were used and frankly I would be surprised that the frames were put in by the person who was working on the table. But if Word is somehow again doing a “favor” by using frames when a manual page break is used, that is something I’d like to get out to everyone to help discourage the use of manual page breaks.

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Thanks Hans,
Here it is…

Emily

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Could you attach a copy of the document? If necessary, replace the text by dummy text, and if it is too large, put it in a zip file and attach that.

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If your table has large (in terms of vertical space) rows, you my want to cover all the bases and make sure Table > Table Properties > Row > “Allow row to break across pages” is un-checked.

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Hi Arianna,
I have tried it with the “Allow row to break across pages” check and also unchecked.
It doesn’t seem to have any effect.
Thanks tho’
Emily

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Hi Arianna,
I have tried it with the “Allow row to break across pages” check and also unchecked.
It doesn’t seem to have any effect.
Thanks tho’
Emily

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If your table has large (in terms of vertical space) rows, you my want to cover all the bases and make sure Table > Table Properties > Row > “Allow row to break across pages” is un-checked.

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Hi Hans,

Thanks for your reply.
I just went in and unticked all those boxes (Except widow/orphan control) after highlighting my table.
It is still misbehaving.

Emily

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