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Patch Alert: Where we stand with this month’s mess
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AskWoody LoungerNovember 28, 2017 at 5:08 pm #148186I did the smart thing and am leaving Windows. Chromebook, Mac, and Linux are so much better that it is genuinely hilarious.
Fortran, C++, R, Python, Java, Matlab, HTML, CSS, etc.... coding is fun!
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AskWoody MVPNovember 29, 2017 at 11:30 pm #148557Well, Old Yeller had to be put down not because of his age, but because he became rabid and aggressive, and tried to attack his owner.
The metaphor, unfortunately, still holds.
Just as Old Yeller would have been fine even at his age had he not contracted rabies, Windows would be fine too if it had not become aggressive and attacked its customers. GWX was an attack; the forced upgrades were attacks; the lack of control over updates, the always-on telemetry, the ridiculous update schedule, the lack of beta testing and poor quality of releases (collectively known as “WaaS”) are all attacks.
I hope this comes through as me, Ascaris; it isn’t showing me the thanks or quote options, but when I try to sign in, it tells me I already am.
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GuestNovember 30, 2017 at 3:08 pm #148703Ascaris wrote:
“Well, Old Yeller had to be put down not because of his age, but because he became rabid and aggressive, and tried to attack his owner.”
“The metaphor, unfortunately, still holds.”^ +1 (ROTFL! Hilarious – and yet so true it saddens me as it amuses me…)
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GuestNovember 28, 2017 at 7:41 pm #148211Got these 3 through today (Didn’t install them yet, also never install previews obv). Unsure if normal schedule:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4051034/windows-7-update-kb4051034
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AskWoody_MVPNovember 28, 2017 at 8:03 pm #148219From https://portal.msrc.microsoft.com/en-US/security-guidance/advisory/CVE-2017-11882: “11/28/2017 To comprehensively address CVE-2017-11882 Microsoft is releasing security updates 4011604 for affected editions of Microsoft Office 2007 and 4011618 for affected editions of Microsoft Office 2010. Microsoft recommends that customers running these versions of Office install the updates to be protected from this vulnerability. Customers who have already installed the previously-released updates (4011276 or 2553204) do not need to take any further action.”
Note: This is only for MSI-based deployments of Office, not Click-to-Run deployments. Background info: Click-to-Run is an Office deployment technology, not a version of Office.
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AskWoody LoungerNovember 29, 2017 at 3:59 am #148299I’ve mostly used Windows since my first PC with Windows 3.11, and don’t think I have ever seen such a cobbled together process for Windows as recently. Its as if the Windows team is running around in crisis mode these days. I wonder how many of them feel the update process is simply a trial and error one and that the only way to see if they work is to just put them out there? I am completely dismayed by a lack of proper vetting of these updates anymore. Are they just juggling too much stuff to be effective at addressing issues properly?
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AskWoody MVPNovember 29, 2017 at 11:34 pm #148560If I was the head of the update dept., right about now, based on my performance over the last 90 days, I’d be seriously concerned about still having a job come Christmas.
Or maybe he’d be rubbing his hands over the big bonus he’s going to be getting for going above and beyond the call of duty.
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AskWoody LoungerNovember 29, 2017 at 3:07 pm #148466MrBrian,
Based on the information I found in your message regarding the new windows update KB4011618, which is repeated in the Security TechCenter Security Vulnerability link: https://portal.msrc.microsoft.com/en-US/security-guidance/advisory/CVE-2017-11882: , “Customers who have already installed the previously-released updates (4011276 or 2553204) do not need to take any further action.”
On 11/23 I installed this months Office Updates on my Window7 X64 machine, and KB2553204 is shown as installed on that date. The thing is, the support page for KB4011618 https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/4011618/description-of-the-security-update-for-office-2010-november-28-2017 indicates the following: “This security update replaces KB2553204.” Also, KB4011618 is being offered to me in Windows Update as an important checked update.
So the question is, why am I being offered KB4011618 in Windows Update if the information in article CVE-2017-11882 indicates that there’s no need to take any further action if the previously-released update KB2553204 was installed, which it was.
It seems that the information found in CVE-2017-11882 is a direct contradiction to what the support page for KB4011618 indicates with regards to it replacing KB2553204.
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AskWoody_MVPNovember 29, 2017 at 6:17 pm #148505See https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/patch-alert-where-we-stand-with-this-months-mess/#post-148470.
If it were my computer, I would probably install KB4011618 sooner or later.
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AskWoody LoungerDecember 1, 2017 at 12:31 pm #148990@Mr.Brian: I have had the MS Win 2010, however have never used it, therefore I don’t get any of the updates, which thus far as not caused any problems. Hopefully one of these days, I will just be able to uninstall it.
Thank you for all of the good advice you always share with us all.
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GuestNovember 30, 2017 at 2:29 am #148585Our Outlook CRM add-ons got broken. It seems there is security feature in new patch – https://support.microsoft.com/fi-fi/help/4049314/microsoft-dynamics-365-for-outlook-is-unable-to-render-webpages-after
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AskWoody_MVPNovember 30, 2017 at 7:50 am #148629November 7, 2017, update for Office 2016 (KB4011224) has been yanked by Microsoft: “Characters in Korean Skype for Business are unidentifiable after this update is installed. To fix this issue, you may uninstall the update following the instructions below. This update is no longer available for download.”
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AskWoody_MVPNovember 30, 2017 at 12:57 pm #148705Today’s Microsoft updates so far:
(Windows 10) November 30, 2017—KB4051963 (OS Build 16299.98)
Compatibility update for upgrading to Windows 10 Version 1709: November 30, 2017
Compatibility update for upgrading to and recovering Windows 10 Version 1709: November 30, 2017
Servicing stack update for Windows 10 Version 1709: November 30, 2017
Update for the .NET Framework 4.6.2 on Windows 10 version 1511 (KB 4054057): November 30, 2017
Update for the .NET Framework 4.6.2 on Windows 10 version 1507 (KB 4051600): November 30, 2017
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GuestDecember 3, 2017 at 8:09 pm #149394It just wanted to install this update, just before finally getting some sleep after long work. I was treated on a blue screen, not functioning Kaspersky and evenly not functioning network card. I have extreme enough of this Windows 10. Ordered and iMac and counting down the days before it arrives. Yes I know no OS or system is perfect. But Windows 10 really is going down the drain. I want my precious free time back, now I lose it on repairing
right now putting back yet another image, then this stupid update will be pushed again etc. No sleep for me tonight once again. Thanks Microsoft, thanks for slowly killing my brain.
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GuestDecember 4, 2017 at 5:04 am #149479Hello, I beg your pardon for my low english level (I’m helped by a translator). I work in an a little travel business with six computers, all of them with Windows 10 1511 Enterprise. As much as I know, three of them were updated to Windows 10 1709 with the Update Assistant tool by Microsoft because we thought that the support had become EOL. Our first surprise arrived when Microsoft decided to extend support for 1511 for six months more. Our second surprise arrived when all the 1709 computers started to fail with erratic issues within our network. Our third surprise arrived when we wanted to install Net Framework 4.7.1 on the three 1511 computers and we can’t because there is no Net Framework 4.7/4.7.1 for 1511 (anyway, I have NetFram. 4.7.1 installed on my old Windows 7 to work with recent travel packages. We tried with success to install Net Framework 4.6.2 but the KB4054057 update for the 4.6.2 is unable to install, it stops with an error with no description at all. This is absurd. This is nonsense. This is absolute madness out of control. Two versions per year? So what for, people? 1507, 1511, 1607, 1703, 1709, expected 1803 in five months… One thousand version for one thousand fails! After all this problems the manager decided to return all 1709 versions to 1511 and we have starting to migrate to Linux when this six months of extended support finished. This is my/our history with this Windows [****] 10. Thank your very much for your attention.
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