Report of significant slowdown after installing Win10 version 1803

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There’s going to be a lot of debate about system performance after installing the new version of Win10, version 1803 — there is with every new versio
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Great Lake Bunyip, Elly, columbia2011, dononline, FakeNinja

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Same problem with my Surface Pro 3, very slow after the update.

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My Dell Inspiron 5567 only one to get it yet. Can’t say its any slower, although the Defender icon put up a warning which only ended up being for the fact I use a local account and was not signed in to Microsoft account. How is this a security issue I will probably never know?

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Microsoft accounts allow you to put info in onedrive and sync off files, and provide a better way to reset your password.  It’s also tied in with the emphasis on Windows hello, ergo the defender warning.

The slowdown may be a reindexing thing.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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I never sign into my Microsoft account unless I have to so I’m generally running on a local account. No complaints from Windows Defender here.

I’m also not seeing any significant slowdowns since upgrading. I haven’t noticed any difference at all, so far at least.

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I have a significant increase in PCMark 10 scores 1803 compared to Win 8.1, but that might be due to DX12 in Win 10 (Futuremark’s benchmark tend to score for capabilities, not only for the speed itself), haven’t had time to look into details. Gaming performance across the board is faster than W8.1:

https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/win10-1803-megathread/#post-189278

 

And this is against 2017-12 rollup state, so without Meltdown/Spectre mitigations installed. I actually start to like W10…

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I have found the reason for the slowdown. It was Nvidia drivers. See the article for a breakdown.

Please accept my apologies.

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Hmm… Nvidia’s latest are 397.31, i.e. newer than you tested. Haven’t tried these? I’ve tested yesterday a fresh install with 397.31 installed and the results were rather promising.

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Now you’ve got me wondering…

I’m going to reinstall the 391.35 run benchmark.

Then install the 397.31 and benchmark.

Gimmie an hour or so.

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OK, try to follow along.
Nvidia Drivers:
– Before I stalled the April Update I was running 391.31. After update PCMark10 score 5315.
– Then I installed 390.65 Nvidia drivers. PCMark10 score 6139.
– Then I clean reinstalled 391.31. PCMark10 score 6024.
– The I clean installed the newest drivers, 397.31. PCMark10 score 6059.

I am left with the conclusion that the Win10 April Update did something to or mis-intalled the drivers.

THANK YOU radosuaf!

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Might be. WU pulls the drivers from MS servers and maybe they messed up. Glad you solved the problem!

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You got me thinking. What if the driver wasn’t installed, or installed properly, or something like that during the update.

OK, try to follow along.
Nvidia Drivers:
– Before I stalled the April Update I was running 391.31. After update PCMark10 score 5315.
– Then I installed 390.65 Nvidia drivers. PCMark10 score 6139.
– Then I clean reinstalled 391.31. PCMark10 score 6024.
– The I clean installed the newest drivers, 397.31. PCMark10 score 6059.

I am left with the conclusion that the Win10 April Update did something to or mis-intalled the drivers.

Original article updated.

THANK YOU radosuaf !

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This sort of a tangent, Born recently reported here that:

397.31 seems to cause serious issues on some Geforce GTX 1060 graphics cards. The driver does not install on some systems, and fails with error 43.

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Couple rumblings on Neowin and Slashdot.org on Chrome browser freezing up. I personally have noticed it hang several times but so far only temporary. Certainly not right, and wasn’t happening before upgrade to 1803. Well, let the fun begin!

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I haven’t had any issues with Chrome so wondering if maybe it is an extension causing the issue?

Red Ruffnsore

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@jescott418, wait for the future release of Google Chrome. Firefox was released yesterday with update 59.0.3 under compatibility with W10 1803.

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I installed Firefox yesterday and no issues at all. Same for Thunderbird. I keep wondering when will my X-Fi drivers stop working with all those changes in the system. Luckily, everything working fine so far.

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It should be possible to patch Windows (which is all the 6 monthly updates are, patches, they’re still the same version namely Windows 10), without having immediately to patch everything else on the machine such as drivers and browsers. I would hope that Microsoft check compatibility before launching their updates.

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Seff wrote:

I would hope that Microsoft check compatibility before launching their updates.

That would be rather difficult, given the number of all possible configurations…

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Microfix

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@radosuaf I’ll finish that for you

…and a dept missing!

I’d have to agree.

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Difficult, but not impossible with the right approach and QA support.

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My Dell Inspiron 5567 only one to get it yet. Can’t say its any slower, although the Defender icon put up a warning which only ended up being for the fact I use a local account and was not signed in to Microsoft account. How is this a security issue I will probably never know?

A friend with Win 10 called yesterday in the midst of a Defender Warning and even had trouble trying to Re-Start or Shut-down the computer. We thought it might be malware.

If the Forced Spring Update triggered the Defender Warning & His was the same situation – HOW – would he have recovered at That Moment? I believe he Power-Buttoned OFF, and I haven’t heard the latest. And, I’ve always presumed every single-user Home computer runs off a “Local acct” (his, too) , so that part for you I don’t understand.

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I have Win 10 Pro set to notify when updates are ready and Metered turned on. It notifies me that KB4023057 was ready to download.

I hid it with wushowhide and rebooted. It’s still telling me that there are updates ready to download.
Is this is supposed to go away to stay this way till I download them ???

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CraigS26 wrote:

And, I’ve always presumed every single-user Home computer runs off a “Local acct” (his, too) , so that part for you I don’t understand.

Having helped multiple users reset their MS account passwords on library computers so they could then log in on their own Windows computers, and just seen too many people frustrated because they can’t log in to their own computer because it is offline… I think it was 8 that started MS’s push to trying to sucker people into setting up their accounts as MS ones instead of local ones, and 10 didn’t make it easier for the average user to realize they had the option to have a local account.

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Running on a discrete GPU – 960M and a i7-6700HQ

Noticed a pretty drastic loss of frames with the 1803 update. Games that were hanging around 60fps have dropped to 40. Hopefully a driver update fixes this.

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After 1803 Update, Desktop icons refresh extremely slow during startup login. Possible cause could also be Windows Defender and Firewall updates

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Disable Computer browser Service in Computer Management. They never fixed this issue

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