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    #344526

    I’ve tried every setting proposed by Susan Bradley and Woody Leonard and others to STOP Windows 10 from automatically updating, including deferring updates for months out from the current date, but the updates STILL happen.

    My current setting in Windows Update Settings under Advanced Options is:

    • Automatically Download Updates ===> OFF
    • Delivery optimisation ===> Downloads from other PCs ===> OFF

    However, I note that KB4023057 was successfully downloaded and installed – without my say-so…

    I am so confused as to how this could occur after the settings specifically blocking both the download and the installation.

    Is it me and not doing the settings correct, or is it Windows 10 that is sneaking by via an avenue I am unaware of?

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    • #344582

      My current setting in Windows Update Settings under Advanced Options is:

      • Automatically Download Updates ===> OFF

      There’s no OFF setting for automatic updates in Windows 10; that one only affects metered connections:

      Automatically download updates, even over metered data connections

      With that off, you still have to set your connection as metered to prevent most updates.

      • #344594

        There’s no OFF setting for automatic updates in Windows 10; that one only affects metered connections:

        There is a way you can offset everything you see posted on these forums regarding updates and controlling updates in Windows 10 Home. I am not mainstream in my actions, though some people follow the same trail as I do.

        The key is not to follow what M$ says you HAVE to do. Think outside the M$ box, you don’t have to be a sheep, and you don’t have to be afraid of using a program other than the spoon fed M$ stuff many subscribe to. You do have OPTIONS!.

        For the past 6 months I have used a program called Stop updates, unlike M$, it actually does what it says it will do. One great thing about this program … no unexpected surprises! Don’t like it, delete/uninstall it. Try doing that with a M$ shoved down your throat program. You can stop over 90% of telemetry (phone home), this prog has lots of options.
        Just an option. ymmv

    • #344590

      Unfortunately it appears that even Basic telemetry sends back info that the default settings and/or services for Windows Update has been fiddled with.

      IMO it’s this which triggers the download and installation of KB4023057 apparently outside of the default WUDO (Windows Update Delivery Optimisation) process by using the fallback BITS (Background Intelligent Transfer Service)… hence why there’s apparently little you can do to prevent the “I’m a fiddler” info being sent. (If you don’t fiddle then you don’t get KB4023057.)

      KB4023057 then seeks to stop further fiddling with Windows Update by adding ‘remediation’ processes (services/scheduled tasks) to forcibly reset Windows Update back to the defaults.

      I’ve found that if you try to uninstall KB4023057 (via Control Panel > Programs and Features), it fails to uninstall cleanly.

      Hope this helps at least explain how I think it’s triggered.

    • #344625

      I keep it disabled by means of a scheduled task that periodically runs my script that checks the state of service wuauserv and stops it if it had restarted.  I passively SEE that it is stopped, as reported to me by the script.

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