UWP is dead… sorta

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You remember the Universal Windows Platform, UWP, right? It started out as the future of Windows programming. In Windows 8 days, UWP apps were known a
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This is what I hate about working in I.T, it’s just so hard keeping up.

Companies like MS trying to make huge changes for changes sake, and the “evangelists” pushing that as the “future”, and the latest greatest thing everyone has to learn.

Non-IT based managers going to conferences, hearing that and then pushing it on devs and everyone else, just for it to disappear as soon as people have actually learned and started using it.

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UWP was dead in Windows 8 and it just takes Microsoft a long time to realize it. It was never about saving UWP its really been about what comes after UWP. This seems to be where Microsoft is at right now, trying to figure out what comes next and how to make it work better and attract developers and users where UWP failed horribly.

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I guess UWP is becoming a “fad” or one-hit wonder for MS

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Paul Thurrott, May 2019:

Microsoft Confirms UWP is Not the Future of Windows Apps

The Verge, May 2019:

Microsoft’s Universal Windows Platform app dream is dead and buried

It appears that a year ago developers made it clear they neither wanted UWP (much like Silverlight) nor the Microsoft Store (different reasons).

A cynic might add… once you lose the trust of the very people you depend upon, it’s very difficult – if not impossible – to ever get it back again.

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and Bogdan Popa of Softpedia news has also written a recent article on the matter

https://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-getting-ready-to-leave-behind-another-failed-windows-10-experiment-529990.shtml

In the session agenda for the upcoming event, Microsoft explains that it’s planning to unify Win32 and UWP apps for reason that the company doesn’t share but which isn’t impossible to figure out: the UWP experiment failed, so focusing on Win32 is the thing that makes sense right now.

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I believe their plan now is to replace UWP with MSIX and PWA apps.

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How does MS tout a new product as the greatest thing since sliced bread and in couple of years bury it? Because some decided to use it there is a bunch of legacy products that basically cannot be readily maintained as the underlying technology was executed by MS years ago with no path to migrate to something else.

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I’ve always gotten a chuckle out of Microsoft (and others) who announce some “modern” thing to replace some “legacy” thing and it takes years and years to even approach feature parity.

The bottom line is that Win32 is simply more powerful.  I’m not sure why Microsoft continues to try and fight destiny.

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Microsoft needs to stop this whole “One-Size-Fits” all idea. It doesn’t work. The needs of someone on a Desktop PC or a Laptop, are different from someone on a Tablet and Mobile. You cannot make something that will work on everything, because it will always feel out of place on device. This is something their competitors understand, but for some reason has completely escaped them.

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THIS. Also “Hands off my machine / software if I’m an advanced user”.

Sort those two things, and I’ll happily move up from W7.

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Agreed. For example Im tired of reassigning my apps for opening concrete file extensions with every new build on all computers in our company. Im tired of exploring “brand new” applications, that should replace old ones and still, they remain side by side in new build (mstsc and RemoteDesktop, paint 3D and pbrush, …)
Seems to me, like we get new icing on the cake, but the cake is still the same old cake as it was 10 years before. Not only we get fat and unhealthy of all this icing, but we can get piosoned by this old cake too! Who needs this bloatware anyway… We want stable system with functional updates, that do not mess with our settings, right?

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I’m involved in a multi-platform FOSS project.  It has been next to impossible to find devs willing to donate time and expertise with UWP.  As a result UWP builds have dragged.  There’s no apparent benefit and the main use case is on the XBOX.  Very few Win 10 users have interest in the UWP ver.

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UWP – like WPF, WinForms, and MFC -, won’t go away any time soon and all the talk is about WinUI 3.0 (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/uwp/toolkits/winui3/).

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“Developing for all 1 billion Windows 10 devices and beyond” – Windows blog
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/2020/05/19/developing-for-all-1-billion-windows-10-devices-and-beyond/

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check out Ed Bott’s recent article – Project Reunion: Microsoft’s unified app strategy is still missing one piece

https://www.zdnet.com/article/project-reunion-microsofts-unified-app-strategy-is-still-missing-one-piece/

I guess it’s a feeble attempt for MS to “unify” Win32 and UWP

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I programmaed a lot for UWP already and I must say it isn’t such a pleasant experience. Not bad, but not really nice. I find it to be terrible slow. Pages with just 20 components on it loads just slowly compared to a Win32 application where that loads instantly. And the whole experience is just ‘slow’. Page navigation, and other stuff. There are several documents available how to improve performance. These documents shouldn’t exist in the first place if the platform was performing as it should, out of the box.

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