• What’s an ad hoc network?

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    I’m thinking about getting a Kindle Fire for my girlfriend and in the specs it say’s it doesn’t support ” Ad Hoc ( peer to peer ) networks.
    What does that mean?
    I have a network with 4 computers on it and a WRTG54 Linksys router which my smart phone connects to just fine.
    Thanks for any help

    Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
    All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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    • #1473663

      Lumpy,

      An ad hoc network is Computer to Computer w/o a router or switch. Thus you can’t connect your Kindle Fire directly to your laptop. However, you can, as I do, connect your KF to your network via a wireless router (wi-fi). You can also connect in places that have public wifi. All that said, I have a Eye-Fi card in my camera (SD card with built-in Wi-Fi) and with the associated KF app it connects directly (no Router involved) to allow me to transfer pictures to the KF. Then when I get to a Wi-Fi hot spot I can post on Facebook via the KF to keep my far flung family up-to-date on my travels (I use this overseas where I don’t take my phone). It works great IMHO. HTH :cheers:

      May the Forces of good computing be with you!

      RG

      PowerShell & VBA Rule!
      Computer Specs

    • #1473667

      Thanks RG.
      So it should connect fine to my router just as my phone does. If I understand you correctly Ad Hoc ( peer to peer ) would be a physical connection, which in my case I would be connecting over wi-fi to the router.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

      • #1473670

        Thanks RG.
        So it should connect fine to my router just as my phone does. If I understand you correctly Ad Hoc ( peer to peer ) would be a physical connection, which in my case I would be connecting over wi-fi to the router.

        It’s not a physical connection, it’s wireless networking without a router. The Kindle Fire should connect to your router without any issues.

    • #1473672

      Thanks Rui.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1475586

      Well we got the Kindle fire HDX and it connected to the network right away BUT even though it is connected, it can’t get an Internet connection to register it or anything else.
      The wireless signal is excellent with a small x next to it.
      Amazon tech support said that even though we are connected, the router isn’t allowing the signal back to the Kindle.
      Does anyone know why and what I need to change?

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1475588

      Perhaps a DHCP issue? Have a look at 2nd post in Does kindle touch support WPA-2 wi-fi security? thread.

      Hope this helps…

      • #1475636

        Perhaps a DHCP issue? Have a look at 2nd post in Does kindle touch support WPA-2 wi-fi security? thread.

        Hope this helps…

        Looks like there are some people who have solved the problems but the guy who changed the DHCP settings on the kindle intrigues me since I can’t find anywhere to change those settings on the kindle.
        I have a Linksys WRT54G v.5 (with the last firmware update) router with 3 computers cabled to it and 1 laptop on wireless. I had no trouble whatsoever getting 2 HP wireless printers and my Galaxy S4 to use the router seamlessly.
        I’m really disappointed in this kindle and their tech support could only suggest calling my ISP because it’s probably their settings. IMHO I think they are full of crap.

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
        All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1475605

      …What does that mean?…

      Not much anymore as far as us ordinary folks are concerned.

      Basically, “ad hoc” in networking contexts means a network that is built spontaneously as needs arise/change.

      These days that definition applies pretty much to any ordinary home network setup.

      “Peer-to-peer”? Nowdays it is really questionable to attempt to distinguish between “ad-hoc” and “peer-to-peer” networks, especially for the purposes of home users. An “ad-hoc” network is usually also a “peer-to-peer” network.

      If (which I really doubt) the “Kindle Fire” can’t connect to the Internet via your (apparently conventional) home network then what the heck use is it?

    • #1475639

      Lumpy,

      Does your router have MAC address filtering turned on? If so you need to add the Kindle MAC address into the router using the router software.

      Does your router have a Password on the Wireless? If so, you may want to delete it and then see if you can connect.

      Or you may want to reset your router to factory settings and start from there to make sure there isn’t some setting you have forgotten about.

      HTH :cheers:

      May the Forces of good computing be with you!

      RG

      PowerShell & VBA Rule!
      Computer Specs

      • #1475712

        Lumpy,

        Does your router have MAC address filtering turned on? If so you need to add the Kindle MAC address into the router using the router software.

        Does your router have a Password on the Wireless? If so, you may want to delete it and then see if you can connect.

        Or you may want to reset your router to factory settings and start from there to make sure there isn’t some setting you have forgotten about.

        HTH :cheers:

        Q: Does your router have MAC address filtering turned on?
        A: It’s Disabled
        Q: Does your router have a Password on the Wireless?
        A: Yes, I haven’t deleted it yet but may try later although it seems a bit “unsafe”.
        Q: Or you may want to reset your router to factory settings and start from there to make sure there isn’t some setting you have forgotten about.
        A: I really don’t want to go there since I wouldn’t know what to reset to what. LOL
        Thanks for the response RG

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
        All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1475641

      Did you disable Airport Mode and did you read through the Tips section in the tutorial I’d linked in Post #6 regarding a software update, or did the Amazon tech people take you through that ?

      • #1475714

        Did you disable Airport Mode and did you read through the Tips section in the tutorial I’d linked in Post #6 regarding a software update, or did the Amazon tech people take you through that ?

        Amazon tech didn’t mention anything about a software update and I guess I’ll have to re-read that post. The software is dated July 2013 ( 13.3.0.5 )
        I read the tips section and basically those were all things tech took me through ( other than not mentioning anything about software updates ). She seemed to think that it is my ISP but I talked to them this morning and there is nothing on their end since everything else connects just fine, the kindle is the only thing that I have ever had a problem with.
        Airport mode is off.
        I tried enabling my SSID and disabling it, made no difference.

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
        All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1475772

      Devices tend to come with old firmware levels but this article doesn’t seem to bear any relationship to the software version you have installed.

      http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_left_v4_sib?ie=UTF8&nodeId=201357220

      Probably best to get advice from Amazon on this.

    • #1475776

      At this point, since everything else connects perfectly and the Kindle doesn’t, I will probably just send it back.
      We tried Amazon tech, my ISP, and googling with no results ( other than the ones who are networking genius’s, or the people that bought a new router JUST so they could get their Kindle to work ), and the fine members here on the forum gave good advice.
      There are a LOT of complaints out there about the same problem on different brands of routers so maybe if people just start returning them, Amazon will change something.
      Basically, it shouldn’t be this hard!
      We are going to try Amazon tech 1 more time tomorrow and if that doesn’t work, it goes back.

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1475804

      Will be waiting for the next instalment to this saga 🙂

      • #1475827

        Will be waiting for the next instalment to this saga 🙂

        LOL, the saga is over.
        This morning I started messing around with the kindle and decided to look a bit deeper at the IP settings. The only way you can see the DNS settings is to choose static IP, which I did.
        For some reason they were all wrong except the Gateway so I manually set DNS1 and DNS2 and in about 30 seconds it connected.
        So hopefully this will show up in searches for all those people that can’t get connected.
        Thanks to all who replied to this thread.;)

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
        All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #1475830

      So much for Amazon techs :rolleyes::D and thanks for the update.

      • #1475851

        So much for Amazon techs :rolleyes::D and thanks for the update.

        Exactly, Amazon tech only has one small set of fixes and if those don’t work ( as it doesn’t for many according to Google searches and amazon kindle forums ), you are on your own.
        Now my girlfriend is happy and she thinks I am a genius. LOL 😎
        If the reply’s to this stop, I will mark it solved.

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
        All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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