Windows 8: Windows Mail running in Windows 8 instead of Metro Mail app

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There has been a lot of discussion here and other places about a mail program in and for Windows 8 and whether a mail program that worked similar to Outlook Express (which became Windows Mail in Vista) would work in Windows 8. I was over at SevenForums just now getting the revised tutorial for putting Windows Mail (an updated Outlook Express) into Windows 7 so I could send it to someone when I stumbled across a post saying someone had figured out a way to get Windows Mail (not “live” mail) to work in Windows 8. The link to t he page of the thread is here: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/5481-windows-mail-125.html and the poster is nicknamed Endeavor. You will have to read beyond his post to learn more about it. Also, though, his post contains a link to EightForums where he discusses it further: http://www.eightforums.com/browsers-mail/3698-how-use-winmail-windows-8-a.html. I don’t have Windows 8 to try it with, but some folks here may want to jump on this and see if they can make it work for them (unless of course Windows 8 has changed in some way since January that makes it impossible to do this).

The thread in SevenForums goes on for more than a hundred pages, and it does include both the original tutorial (early in the thread) and the revised original tutorial for putting Windows Mail in Windows 7.

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What are the advantages of using the ancient mail program from Vista in the brand new OS over Windows 8 Mail or Outlook or Outlook.com?

Bruce

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What are the advantages of using the ancient mail program from Vista in the brand new OS over Windows 8 Mail or Outlook or Outlook.com?

Bruce

Bruce, as you know, there are many of us who don’t like Outlook and aren’t interested in webmail no matter what name it has. I’m not going to start the mail wars all over again. Suffice to say there are many thousands of us who used Outlook Express for years and years, who knew enough to break mail folders into folders holding 5000 messages or less so that the mail program doesn’t break, and who are/were miserable with Windows Live Mail due to its not having features we loved, used, and needed in our work and daily email.

You and many others may *love* the newer mail programs or webmail and good for you if that’s the case. You can denigrate Windows Mail by calling it “ancient” if you like – have fun doing it – but I’m not going to bite on it and start a rant on why so many vastly prefer OE or Windows Mail. It has been ranted over time and again by me and many others, so no point in repeating it.

Lack of the type of email program so many of us prefer in Windows 8 is enough to keep a lot of people from wanting it on their desktop or laptop. News that you may be able to get the kind of email program you want on Windows 8 may very well change the minds of many who now say they will never get Windows 8 or only get it very reluctantly. And THAT is important, or should be, to those who are promoting, pushing, and loving Windows 8 because it would bring more people to the group that wants and is able to use Windows 8. So therefore, cracks about it being “ancient” are not useful to Windows 8 lovers who want to see more people use it.

Kelliann

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Bruce, as you know, there are many of us who don’t like Outlook and aren’t interested in webmail no matter what name it has. I’m not going to start the mail wars all over again. Suffice to say there are many thousands of us who used Outlook Express for years and years, who knew enough to break mail folders into folders holding 5000 messages or less so that the mail program doesn’t break, and who are/were miserable with Windows Live Mail due to its not having features we loved, used, and needed in our work and daily email.

You and many others may *love* the newer mail programs or webmail and good for you if that’s the case. You can denigrate Windows Mail by calling it “ancient” if you like – have fun doing it – but I’m not going to bite on it and start a rant on why so many vastly prefer OE or Windows Mail. It has been ranted over time and again by me and many others, so no point in repeating it.

Lack of the type of email program so many of us prefer in Windows 8 is enough to keep a lot of people from wanting it on their desktop or laptop. News that you may be able to get the kind of email program you want on Windows 8 may very well change the minds of many who now say they will never get Windows 8 or only get it very reluctantly. And THAT is important, or should be, to those who are promoting, pushing, and loving Windows 8 because it would bring more people to the group that wants and is able to use Windows 8. So therefore, cracks about it being “ancient” are not useful to Windows 8 lovers who want to see more people use it.

Kelliann

Good for you, Kelliann! I agree with EVERYTHING you said, and I appreciate that you didn’t let yourself get sidetracked by the “ancient” crack.

I use what works for me, whether or not others agree. And I always let everyone else do Microsoft’s beta testing first, before I move to one of their new “must-have” products.

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I just asked what the advantages were. What features do you love that you can’t get anywhere else?

Bruce

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I just asked what the advantages were. What features do you love that you can’t get anywhere else?

Bruce

I’ve posted on this many times over on the mail message board, Bruce. We are on a Windows 8 board so will not repeat here.

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I’ve posted on this many times over on the mail message board, Bruce. We are on a Windows 8 board so will not repeat here.

That means you’ve posted here how to do something but not why someone might want to do so. I think most people will be as confused about that as I am.

Bruce

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That means you’ve posted here how to do something but not why someone might want to do so. I think most people will be as confused about that as I am.

Bruce

Not really, Bruce. The population interested in trying it already knows they are interested and why and for them, knowing of the possible availability of WM in Win 8 could switch them into being willing to give Windows 8 a try. The rest don’t care, IMO, and will go with whatever mail app or webmail is presented. I am pretty sure you’ve read threads ad nauseum on why people loved OE and WM and hated WLM and did not care for Outlook. If not, please go visit the non-outlook mail message board where you will see everything you want and need to see on the subject. Sorry to not get into what you want to read here, but this is simply the wrong message board for a feature comparison of email programs, apps, webmail (as you know). I am sure you can understand that.

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I am pretty sure you’ve read threads ad nauseum on why people loved OE and WM and hated WLM and did not care for Outlook.

I haven’t.

If not, please go visit the non-outlook mail message board where you will see everything you want and need to see on the subject.

I’ve tried. What should I look for there, and why do you have to make this so difficult?

Sorry to not get into what you want to read here, but this is simply the wrong message board for a feature comparison of email programs, apps, webmail (as you know). I am sure you can understand that.

I don’t understand at all why this is the place for HOW to use Windows Mail in Windows 8 but not WHY.

Bruce

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I haven’t.

I’ve tried. What should I look for there, and why do you have to make this so difficult?

I don’t understand at all why this is the place for HOW to use Windows Mail in Windows 8 but not WHY.

Bruce

Hey, Bruce – just for you I went over to the non-outlook mail message board and just now posted a thread with a collection of my reasons on it. I am sure someone will read it and blast me for “disliking change” and tell me to “get over it,” that “WM, and WLM are dead so forget about them,” and all that jazz. It’s a tempting target . Oh well. :-/

Kelliann

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By any chance have you tried WLM 2012. Just asking. Don’t want to get into a lengthy discussion on Win Mail versus WLM.

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By any chance have you tried WLM 2012. Just asking. Don’t want to get into a lengthy discussion on Win Mail versus WLM.

Yes, 5 months, really determined, committed try, but gave up. Learning it was not available in Windows 8 made me turn away from the idea of even trying it. What I learned at 1 a.m. this morning, that it can be done, made me think differently about Windows 8 and increased my interest in it, made it not out of the realm of possibility.

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Outlook Express

When my wife’s computer crashed, I upgraded it from Vista to Windows 7 Release Candidate and later, after general availability, to the RTM version. She liked everything about Windows 7 except losing Windows Mail/Outlook Express. She had Office 2010, so she had Outlook, but she really hated that. She has also looked at Windows Live Mail, and I am not going to stir the pot by asking her what she didn’t like about that, so you will just have to take my word that she didn’t like it.

She finally let me install Thunderbird. She has never liked it as well as Windows Mail/Outlook Express, but she has been using it since before General availability of Windows 7 and has stopped complaining about it.

I am thinking about installing the Windows Mail program on a Windows 7 computer to see if my wife likes it, but she was so mad for so long when Microsoft took it away that I’m not sure I want to reopen the subject.

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It could not have been WLM 2012 since it was just recently released. You may have been using WLM 2011.

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It could not have been WLM 2012 since it was just recently released. You may have been using WLM 2011.

Medico –
Correct, I was. I still have it on this computer – WLM 2011. It runs fine alongside Windows Mail. I can have both open, online, and in use at the same time.

Kelliann

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I would like to add that, while I do not consider what you have done to violate any EULA, copying licensed software from one OS to another, even if you have licenses to both OSes, is getting pretty sketchy from a copyright point of view. Again, this particular application seems OK with me, but others like it may not be so legitimate.

I see no copyright or EULA problem with the methods put forth in this thread.

But like BruceR, I am still a bit mystified as to why anyone would need to go to this much trouble just to preserve the look and feel of Windows Live Mail, which Microsoft says they are going to kill off. Kind of like people are clinging to Live Mesh, when that platform is also a Microsoft Dead End. Or people still trying to eliminate the Office Ribbon, or restore the Windows 8 Start Menu.

I have to say, this does read like resistance to change.

Having posted this opinion, I guess I’d better put on my Pummeling Helmet.

-- rc primak

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I would like to add that, while I do not consider what you have done to violate any EULA, copying licensed software from one OS to another, even if you have licenses to both OSes, is getting pretty sketchy from a copyright point of view. Again, this particular application seems OK with me, but others like it may not be so legitimate.

I see no copyright or EULA problem with the methods put forth in this thread.

But like BruceR, I am still a bit mystified as to why anyone would need to go to this much trouble just to preserve the look and feel of Windows Live Mail, which Microsoft says they are going to kill off. Kind of like people are clinging to Live Mesh, when that platform is also a Microsoft Dead End. Or people still trying to eliminate the Office Ribbon, or restore the Windows 8 Start Menu.

I have to say, this does read like resistance to change.

Having posted this opinion, I guess I’d better put on my Pummeling Helmet.

I have to say, this does read like resistance to change.

I have to say that you have a snotty attitude. I know that I take offense at your sneering condescension.

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I am still a bit mystified as to why anyone would need to go to this much trouble just to preserve the look and feel of Windows Live Mail,

This is about Windows Mail, not Windows Live Mail.

Bruce

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This is about Windows Mail, not Windows Live Mail.

Bruce

Oops! Sorry if there was any confusion caused by my mention of WLM instead of WM. I am still surprised that just copying a few .dlls would successfully install either of these features into Windows 8.

The same general EULA and installation issues would apply. Transferring either would raise similar EULA questions for some folks. Not me, but some of the moderators in the Lounge. But perhaps I should let them speak for themselves if they so choose.

My attitude should not be inferred from my post. I only observe that there are possible EULA and licensing issues when taking parts of licensed programs and copying them to other users or other computers which do not have a paid license for the software. These considerations, as I clearly stated, do not apply to this thread, in my opinion. But folks should not infer any blanket rights to reverse-engineer Windows components from my opinions.

I respect and hold as equals all Lounge members, except for those members whose knowledge and experience I consider superior to my own. And there are quite a few of those esteemed members. I respect everyone here.

My opinion was and remains that I agree with BruceR, when he questions why anyone would go to such trouble just to retain the look and feel of Windows Mail. If that opinion is offensive and condescending, several other Lounge members have posted the same opinions in nearly the same language (and on every point I made about other resistances to Windows changes), and they do not get accused of being condescending or offensive very often (if ever).

If I was being offensive, so was BruceR before I posted my agreement with his opinion.

It’s a good thing I have my pummeling helmet firmly in place.

-- rc primak

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The same general EULA and installation issues would apply. Sorry if there was any confusion caused by my mention of WLM instead of WM. Transferring either would raise similar EULA questions for some folks. Not me, but some of the moderators in the Lounge. But perhaps I should let them speak for themselves if they so choose.

My attitude cannot be inferred from my post. I only observe that there are possible EULA and licensing issues when taking parts of licensed programs and copying them to other users or other computers which do not have a paid license for the software. These considerations, as I clearly stated, do not apply to this thread, in my opinion. But folks should not infer any blanket rights to reverse-engineer Windows components from my opinions.

I think that’s spot on Bob. Is the publishing of these files on a 3rd party site in breach of the EULA? Possibly (perhaps even probably), but how are we here in the Lounge to judge what other forums publish? Moreover, there are much more significant things than this which could be offered by way of links on 3rd party sites.

One other aspect that readers should consider when thinking about implementing this kind of workaround is the danger of importing software from unknown sources. What is offered by way of those links is not the same as downloading a genuine add-on software package – the files linked to come with zero warranty and zero support. Worse still, it is quite possible for malicious persons to offer similar looking downloads, but with an installer crafted to deliver something rather nasty onto the user’s machine.

My preference, were I to be looking for a free alternative to the Mail App in Windows 8, would be to look at genuine supported mail clients; of which there are many. Are these suitable for the OP? Possibly not, but they do come with full support and methods to verify they are not compromised. In the end, if implementing the workaround, the reader needs to feel comfortable importing unverified software from a 3rd party site and needs to understand there is a question regarding the source of the files and licensing.

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I think that’s spot on Bob. Is the publishing of these files on a 3rd party site in breach of the EULA? Possibly (perhaps even probably), but how are we here in the Lounge to judge what other forums publish? Moreover, there are much more significant things than this which could be offered by way of links on 3rd party sites.

One other aspect that readers should consider when thinking about implementing this kind of workaround is the danger of importing software from unknown sources. What is offered by way of those links is not the same as downloading a genuine add-on software package – the files linked to come with zero warranty and zero support. Worse still, it is quite possible for malicious persons to offer similar looking downloads, but with an installer crafted to deliver something rather nasty onto the user’s machine.

My preference, were I to be looking for a free alternative to the Mail App in Windows 8, would be to look at genuine supported mail clients; of which there are many. Are these suitable for the OP? Possibly not, but they do come with full support and methods to verify they are not compromised. In the end, if implementing the workaround, the reader needs to feel comfortable importing unverified software from a 3rd party site and needs to understand there is a question regarding the source of the files and licensing.

Tinto, in many cases people can just get the file they need off of another of their own computers.

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I would like to add that, while I do not consider what you have done to violate any EULA, copying licensed software from one OS to another, even if you have licenses to both OSes, is getting pretty sketchy from a copyright point of view. Again, this particular application seems OK with me, but others like it may not be so legitimate.

I see no copyright or EULA problem with the methods put forth in this thread.

But like BruceR, I am still a bit mystified as to why anyone would need to go to this much trouble just to preserve the look and feel of Windows Live Mail, which Microsoft says they are going to kill off. Kind of like people are clinging to Live Mesh, when that platform is also a Microsoft Dead End. Or people still trying to eliminate the Office Ribbon, or restore the Windows 8 Start Menu.

I have to say, this does read like resistance to change.

Having posted this opinion, I guess I’d better put on my Pummeling Helmet.

Bob, it is the look and feel of windows *live* mail that I dislike after a good solid 5 months of trying out both 2011 and 2009. (I hear on another thread that 2012 is much much better and incorporates features I want so, good news for me there). I would install 2012 and try it if I could be positive it would not break Windows Mail. Windows Mail/Outlook Express fits my needs, fulfills them best, and that’s how that is. I know enough to break message folders into 1, 2, 3 Sent Mail 1, Sent mail 2, Sent mail 3, for instance. so that no folder has more than 5000 messages. I have 16-17 gigabytes of mail and research stored in there. Some people who have never heard about breaking up folders end up with corruption, and I suspect they would get that no matter what program they use if they are so careless. If you are going to defrag, copy your message stores to an external disk, defrag, and if you get corruption in the next day or two, delete and then reimport your message stores. Same goes for compacting where yes, if you have a gigantic folder like 20,000 messages in the inbox, you can lose some. Backing up is good housekeeping, and everyone should no matter what mail program they have so no, that is not an extra step required by having an older mail program. I have no problem with changes but I measure them closely against what I *need* to do. If they can’t do what I need to do, and I can’t find quick workarounds that don’t involve all sorts of extra stuff, then I don’t want them no matter what iteration of Windows we may be on.

Windows Mail *will* work in both Windows 7 and 8 and it is not difficult to install them. The install instructions for Windows 7 are not as clear as one might wish, but, the actual job of doing it is pretty easy. Why not use what works? That would be like buying a new shirt that is too large and full of extra stuff you don’t want (print, pleats, whatever) and saying OK I’ll wear it because it is new and it works for many others. Meantime, I want the plain vanilla shirt that fits my size perfectly and looks good on me. Big prints, ruffles and pleats look horrible on me. They gussied up Windows Live Mail adding things I don’t want or use, and that get in my way or make it more complicated to do what I want.

Some prefer thunderbird, Eudora or other mail programs. Nobody (usually) tells them they are behind the times and must get Microsoft’s newest mail program, so I don’t understand why those who use MS live mail are so dedicated to insisting that everyone use the newest version. If I had a mail program named Plain Vanilla Mail and put it out there and a million people said wow, that’s the program that fits ME and started using it, I don’t think anyone in love with MS’S latest mail program would be quick to tell them they are a backwards stick in the mud who hates change. So I don’t see why anyone tries to convince those who love an earlier iteration of MS mail that we should not use it or even want to or try to install it in a newer version of windows.

I understand that more and more people are at peace with storing their photos and work documents, spreadsheets, whatever, in the cloud and not on their own computer. With directing others to their Dropbox or Skydrive or iCloud site to see whatever they want to see. I use what I want of “the cloud” and what I don’t want to use, I keep here on my computer. Cloud storage is excellent for those with multiple computers and devices who need to see a document wherever they are. So that’s one document or several, but not all have to be on the cloud. Use it on an as-needed basis. I have an Amazon book I just bought stored in “the cloud” to read on a tablet or a PC. I have apps stored in “the cloud.” My mail — is on my own computer with copies on an external disk. My photos are stored both on my computer and on an external disk. If I send you a photo I want it to go directly from me to you in the size I choose. I don’t want it to go to Skydrive first and then tell you you have to be online and go to Skydrive to see it. Or Facebook, Flickr, PhotoBucket, NIkon’s PictureTown (which is the easiest to use I ever saw), or whatever.

It is *not* trouble to install the simple efficient mail program that works for me, so I would not call it “going to this much trouble.” What IS trouble for me is trying to deal with the added gew-gaws they stuck into Windows Live Mail.

ROFL on the “pummeling helmet.” Too funny! Thanks for brightening my day!

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I am still a bit mystified as to why anyone would need to go to this much trouble just to preserve the look and feel of Windows Live Mail, which Microsoft says they are going to kill off. Kind of like people are clinging to Live Mesh, when that platform is also a Microsoft Dead End. Or people still trying to eliminate the Office Ribbon, or restore the Windows 8 Start Menu.

Since when do we need to care what Microsoft is going to do? If I want to keep using a program “which Microsoft says they are going to kill off”, more power to me.

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I can’t understand why some people can’t accept that others just don’t like certain programs or operating systems. They seem to take it personally that someone doesn’t like thier own favorite. I see this with Windows 8 as well as Windows Live mail here. kelliann has repeatedly said she doesn’t like Windows Live Mail. Its called a personal computer. Learn to accept that people have different preferences. i don’t have a problem with WLM but I can accept that others do.

Jerry

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OK, well I think I have a better picture of the central issue here. I am also struggling with the changes being made to all of these Web Mail and “Live” email applications. And there are some good features about “Live” this and “Live” that.

But when I want to just do email and I want or need a local copy (or I want to print something out of an email), I need a robust local email client. Not something which makes me connect to The Cloud or work online. For this I was using Thunderbird. But in light of possible future support issues, I have decided I like Pegasus Mail better. It can usually do a good job of importing email from Outlook or Thunderbird, and once set up, P-Mail is capable of being used as a fully portable application. I put it on a USB stick and use it on every computer I own or log into. P-Mail is amazingly portable, and only keeps a few Temporary Folders on whatever computer it is used on. So nothing needs to be copied or installed on any computer, and yet I have a robust local email client. For backup, I just copy the entire PMail Folder. It’s that simple.

This seems to me to be a better approach than trying to force the new Microsoft OS to accept an older MS email client, whatever the route toward installing the old client into the new OS.

If anyone’s interested in Pegasus Mail, check out their Windows Overview web page. There’s also an online user manual. This program has been around since before Windows, and it has versions which work on Windows 98 through Windows 8. Development is still ongoing. And it’s entirely free for individual use. I think you’ll find their feature set is pretty impressive. I’m suggesting Pegasus Mail as a possible long-term solution to Microsoft’s constant habit of rebranding their email programs and changing the look and feel of the client’s interface.

-- rc primak

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OK, well I think I have a better picture of the central issue here. I am also struggling with the changes being made to all of these Web Mail and “Live” email applications. And there are some good features about “Live” this and “Live” that.

But when I want to just do email and I want or need a local copy (or I want to print something out of an email), I need a robust local email client. Not something which makes me connect to The Cloud or work online. For this I was using Thunderbird. But in light of possible future support issues, I have decided I like Pegasus Mail better. It can usually do a good job of importing email from Outlook or Thunderbird, and once set up, P-Mail is capable of being used as a fully portable application. I put it on a USB stick and use it on every computer I own or log into. P-Mail is amazingly portable, and only keeps a few Temporary Folders on whatever computer it is used on. So nothing needs to be copied or installed on any computer, and yet I have a robust local email client. For backup, I just copy the entire PMail Folder. It’s that simple.

This seems to me to be a better approach than trying to force the new Microsoft OS to accept an older MS email client, whatever the route toward installing the old client into the new OS.

If anyone’s interested in Pegasus Mail, check out their Windows Overview web page. There’s also an online user manual. This program has been around since before Windows, and it has versions which work on Windows 98 through Windows 8. Development is still ongoing. And it’s entirely free for individual use. I think you’ll find their feature set is pretty impressive. I’m suggesting Pegasus Mail as a possible long-term solution to Microsoft’s constant habit of rebranding their email programs and changing the look and feel of the client’s interface.

Bob that was a very thoughtful review, which I appreciated reading. I still have no problem with using Windows Mail on anything it will work on. Heck, if it worked on Linux or the Mac OS I’d use it there too . I’d like to rename it Plain Vanilla Mail, find a company interested in supporting it (yes, I know it’sMicrosoft’s so I know that isn’t possible) and maybe then people would view it the same as they do Pegasus or Eudora or Thunderbird .

Now about Pegasus – there’s a name that goes wayyy back, as you said, and I am glad it still exists as an option. I like what you said about the portability. What I don”t understand is the part where you said it just has a few temporary files. How does it keep your mail stores on your computer? Are you able to keep a particular email for several years if you want to? Just by letting it sit in a folder you create inside the email program?

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Bob that was a very thoughtful review, which I appreciated reading. I still have no problem with using Windows Mail on anything it will work on. Heck, if it worked on Linux or the Mac OS I’d use it there too . I’d like to rename it Plain Vanilla Mail, find a company interested in supporting it (yes, I know it’sMicrosoft’s so I know that isn’t possible) and maybe then people would view it the same as they do Pegasus or Eudora or Thunderbird .

Now about Pegasus – there’s a name that goes wayyy back, as you said, and I am glad it still exists as an option. I like what you said about the portability. What I don”t understand is the part where you said it just has a few temporary files. How does it keep your mail stores on your computer? Are you able to keep a particular email for several years if you want to? Just by letting it sit in a folder you create inside the email program?

Maybe I gave a false impression of Pegasus Mail. It can be used in a way which is so portable that the only traces it leaves on the host computer are a few Temporary Files.

However, if you want to save all the PMail data (well beyond just the email messages) on your own devices, you just direct the program to use your own device, and it installs a complete, robust client on your device. (This is not limited to PCs and laptops, as an App protocol is also at least hinted at in Pegasus Mail’s documentation at their site. They have a full User Manual online for details.) There are detailed How-To’s for a variety of installation and use configurations at the Pegasus Mail web site.

Overall, this program seems to be holding up remarkable well, considering how many email clients are non longer being developed or supported. More modern features and improvements on older features are always being developed. And I really like the Pegasus interface — it’s clean but provides a familiar Folders or Mailboxes look.

Backing up what you place on your own device is still as simple as copying the entire PMail Folder to an external location. The whole program and all your messages are then safely archived.

For a robust, full-featured, yet very flexible email client, I’ve found very few programs which compare with Pegasus Mail. And they do not pay me to say this.

-- rc primak

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Maybe I gave a false impression of Pegasus Mail. It can be used in a way which is so portable that the only traces it leaves on the host computer are a few Temporary Files.

However, if you want to save all the PMail data (well beyond just the email messages) on your own devices, you just direct the program to use your own device, and it installs a complete, robust client on your device. (This is not limited to PCs and laptops, as an App protocol is also at least hinted at in Pegasus Mail’s documentation at their site. They have a full User Manual online for details.) There are detailed How-To’s for a variety of installation and use configurations at the Pegasus Mail web site.

Overall, this program seems to be holding up remarkable well, considering how many email clients are non longer being developed or supported. More modern features and improvements on older features are always being developed. And I really like the Pegasus interface — it’s clean but provides a familiar Folders or Mailboxes look.

Backing up what you place on your own device is still as simple as copying the entire PMail Folder to an external location. The whole program and all your messages are then safely archived.

For a robust, full-featured, yet very flexible email client, I’ve found very few programs which compare with Pegasus Mail. And they do not pay me to say this.

Thanks Bob. You’ve got me curious now. I’ll go take a look at their website.

Kelliann

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No problem. Always glad to help.

-- rc primak

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What I am suggesting here is that, instead of going to the trouble to keep using a feature no longer supported by Microsoft (which many of us use and really like, BTW) maybe it’s time to at least begin to explore alternatives which might also serve our needs, but which are and will continue to be supported by the vendors. This way Microsoft can’t just change a little Windows 8 code and put us out of business.

My Pegasus Mail suggestion is intended to reference a product which has been around for a long time, will continue to be supported, works great inside of Windows 8, and has a reasonable user interface. And it’s a fully local, robust email client. The only drawback is that it isn’t fully integrated inside of MS Office or Windows itself. I can live with that tradeoff.

-- rc primak

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