Windows Update History shows KB4023057: But not shown in uninstall list

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Windows 10 21H2

I’m showing KB4023057 in the update history list, but it’s not shown in the uninstall list.  Is there a way to remove it?

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Yes, you can uninstall from apps and features, but why ? Did the update crashed your PC…?

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Look out for KB4023057: it is being released again for Windows 10 by Microsoft

Microsoft has never truly explained exactly what this update does.

They’ve gone to a lot of trouble to hide the fact it’s been installed… first moving it from add/remove updates to apps & features, then “repeatedly” renamed it (including removing the KB number from the description) so users couldn’t “easily” find and remove it.

Lately, they’ve started to completely ignore user settings that “should” prevent automatic download/install of this update (including ignoring the metered connections setting.)

They’ve been continuously “re-issuing” it for the past few years (Ghee, why does that sound SO familiar? Ah yes, their whole “forced” update from Win 7/8 to Win 10 campaign!)

Many Windows experts who’ve installed it and then monitored their PC afterward have found “very suspicious” activities going on, especially changes in the registry to settings that control how updates are applied as well as increases in the flow of telemetry data between the PC and Microsoft.

So…

If it’s just a “normal update“, why has Microsoft gone to such extreme lengths to ensure it always gets installed on a PC regardless of what an individual user wants?

All the above is why many users, myself included, just don’t trust this update and don’t want it installed.

Personally, I always ensure it’s removed whenever it installs itself on my system and my Win10 21H2 runs just fine (i.e. not having it installed hasn’t resulted in any ill effects.)

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Mike,

The latest version of KB4023057 that I’m aware of is called Microsoft Update Health Tools in apps & features (note, it “does not” contain the KB #)

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Just another Forum Poster wrote:

They’ve gone to a lot of trouble to hide the fact it’s been installed… first moving it from add/remove updates to apps & features, then “repeatedly” renamed it (including removing the KB number from the description) so users couldn’t “easily” find and remove it.

Hanlon’s razor applies.

 

Just another Forum Poster wrote:

Many Windows experts who’ve installed it and then monitored their PC afterward have found “very suspicious” activities going on, especially changes in the registry to settings that control how updates are applied as well as increases in the flow of telemetry data between the PC and Microsoft.

Any reference links to all this expert research that found related suspicious activities?

 

Just another Forum Poster wrote:

If it’s just a “normal update“, why has Microsoft gone to such extreme lengths to ensure it always gets installed on a PC regardless of what an individual user wants?

Because reliable updates help everyone?

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Regarding that Resetting of WU

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• This update may request your device to stay awake longer to enable installation of updates.

  Note The installation will respect any user-configured sleep configurations and also your “active hours” when you use your device the most.

• This update may try to reset network settings if problems are detected, and it will clean up registry keys that may be preventing updates from being installed successfully.
• This update may repair disabled or corrupted Windows operating system components that determine the applicability of updates to your version of Windows.

KB4023057: Update for Windows Update Service components (microsoft.com)

When it does this stuff your computer is not a happy camper.  I have a machine that I let it install and it’s never reset my WU settings.

Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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Confused about KB 5005463 and/or KB4023057

From Susan Bradley post March 10, 2022.

“Remember if you get offered/or install the PC Health tool called KB 5005463  or KB4023057 you can remove them by going into control panel, programs and look Windows PC Health Check or Microsoft Update Health Tools.”

“Click on it to remove them from your computer.”

Current post seems to suggest keeping it.  I deleted it after March 10 post.  I think it keeps coming back so delete or not delete again?

Thanks for any clarification you can offer.

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

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There is a new version of KB4023057 re-released almost monthly. If you don’t want it, you have to keep hiding it when it’s offered.

If you install KB5005463, then uninstall it, it may mark the Registry and not install again. But it has already done whatever it does.

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I found KB5005463 in my update history under “Other Updates”, so if that is the one I deleted, I guess it is gone for good.  I don’t know if I ever opened it, but I did once click to see if my computer was ready for Windows 11 and that my have opened it.  So it may have done whatever it does. I was just curious; I don’t want Windows 11.

As you say KB4023057 shows up over and over under ”Quality Updates”.  I have a home version of Windows and I am incompetent at using Windows Show/Hide.  It is easier to just delete it.

I think this forum has recommended blocking or deleting KB4023057 since forever and I will continue.

Thanks for the reply.

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

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You can use WUMgr, recommended numerous times on this site.

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mpw

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OK, so I found this post on Ask Woody: https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/guide-to-using-wumgr-for-windows-10-updates/

Next I went to https://github.com/DavidXanatos/wumgr  from a link there and I think the author wants bits coins or something.  I don’t understand that stuff. So I closed that link.

So I went back to the Ask Woody post and scrolled the post some more.  It is long.  I still think rather than go through all these steps I would rather just delete KB4023057 when it shows up.

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

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WUMgr is FREE.

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I thought he wanted to be paid.  Guess it is just a “contribution”.  Also not sure where the download button is.  I find his site confusing.  This is only the part about contributions.

 

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

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https://github.com/DavidXanatos/wumgr/releases/tag/v1.1

Use the .zip file

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I am sorry but I don’t want  WUMgr.  I don’t see a download button at https://github.com/DavidXanatos/wumgr/releases/tag/v1.1 . Also, what zip file.

And even if I did find the download button I don’t want to go through all the steps to set it up as described at https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/guide-to-using-wumgr-for-windows-10-updates/.

It is just so much easier to delete it if it shows up.  I know you just want to help, but it is easier to just delete it.

 

HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0050 – 64 bit
Windows 10 Home Version 22H2
OS build 19045.5608
Windows Defender and Windows Firewall
Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019
-Version 2502(Build 18526.20168 C2R)

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Just another Forum Poster wrote:

Lately, they’ve started to completely ignore user settings that “should” prevent automatic download/install of this updatee (including ignoring the metered connections setting.)

No, they don’t. It isn’t forced if you hide the update in wushowhide, WUmgr…

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Susan Bradley wrote:

I have a machine that I let it install and it’s never reset my WU settings.

I have already installed KB…057 9 times and the update hasn’t changed any settings, network…

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Has anyone had any issues where KB4023057 has caused issues with a workstation? Current issues experienced are Outlook not being able to attach files and Adobe Acrobat suddenly closing out. Also, there is extreme lag randomly throughout the day.

Please let me know. I’m curious to see what everyone is experiencing.

Thank you,
Sara

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