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TechTango wrote:

AJ2000 wrote:

I don’t believe an over-install will resolve this

AJ2020

If this helps, I’ve made several over the top repair installs for various vexing issues using an ISO file placed on my C: drive and mounted with a double click.  Just run “setup”.  They have all worked perfectly when nothing else did.

I’ve always had an image backup at the ready prior to a repair install but have never needed it.

Follow Paul T’s directions.

 

Hi TechTango,

I understand and its really good to know you have had success with this more than success, I’m confident I will too. I’ll give yours and Paul T’s steps a try.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

 

Paul T wrote:

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Hi Paul T,

Makes sense and many thanks for the in-depth and personalized answer. This is why I love AskWoody! Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

Hi Paul T,

Thanks for your prompt response. I understand but this issue occurred on two different systems (based on different hardware and drivers).

I don’t believe an over-install will resolve this but is installing from a USB drive or an ISO the best method? I know that not all install options will offer to keep your data and applications. I can re-install everything manually but there are more productive uses of my time.

I do have backups of both systems before the install but they’re exact duplicates and will cause the same issue again if I revert to the backups.

Many thanks for any further clarification.

Hi Susan and the AskWoody Community,

Thank you so much for this detailed and useful update on the rollout of Windows 11 24H2.

I’m currently using InControl on two of my Windows 11 23H2 systems since they were both offered 24H2 in December 2024 by Windows Update. While the installation was successful and everything seemed fine, both systems encountered a software bug that for me makes both systems almost unusable. Both systems have updated drivers, software and had the December 2024 updates for Windows 11 23H2 installed.

I wish to ask what is the best means of reporting this bug to Microsoft? I have already used the Feedback hub on both systems, provided as much details as I can and submitted the diagnostic reports with the feedback. Is there anything else I can do? I’m asking since I realize in November 2025, 23H2 will be unsupported.

Any further advice would be much appreciated. Thank you again for all that you do for the community.

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Further details about the software bug I reported:

After a few elevated UAC prompt windows, the system will freeze and become unresponsive. This will start with no UAC prompt appearing and just end up a black window, then the desktop will appear again but everything will be frozen. Only a hard reboot resolves the issue.

The UAC prompt becomes blank when trying to open 3rd party utilities such Process Lasso, EVGA Precision X1, ThrottleStop, HDSentinel etc.

I usually use a Standard user account and elevate to admin via a UAC when needed.

Hi abbodi86,

True, for most consumer and casual users, vulnerability counting can just be a curiosity. I’m one who does find curiosity in such things.

For my job however, vulnerability counting becomes essential since when you are briefing C-Suite leaders or reporting to your manager at end of the quarter or month, its very useful to know how many vulnerabilities were fixed and how severe they were. Briefing the C-Suite on this and other areas of interests to them can not only help keep your job but also justify how large the cyber security team is and to keep or increase your budget for next year.

The same data also serves as an important reference to patching teams who work late nights on Friday nights and on weekend to patch everything during out of office hours so that everything is in order for the start of business on Monday. Knowing how many vulnerabilities and how sever they are allows these patching teams to patch the most severe and numerous vulnerabilities first.

I hope this is useful on why such data can be important. Thanks.

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abbodi86

rc primak wrote:

Image your system(s) first…before installing updates.

If something goes sideways, you can go back to where you were before.

According to the KB article on the changes to Secure Boot, once you revoke the old EFI/UEFI setups for USB boot, your backups may no longer work. This is what has scared me off from doing any additional steps as a home user with stand-alone PCs and multi-booting with Linux from USB drives. I hope that when the changes become mandatory, there will be some sane and rational way to get everything updated without any loss of the ability to use backups.

Hi Susan and Team,

I hope this message finds you well.

I really appreciate your advice and analysis of the changes related to Secure Boot updates. As a consumer base user, what is your advice for deploying these updates? What I mean, they will be mandatory and will eventually enabled to the recommended (and restricted) settings.

While I am in favour of the security benefits they bring, just as rc primak pointed out it won’t be without potential drawbacks. Wouldn’t it be better to start testing now and be prepared?

My most recent system is an HP Elitebook 1040 G9 from early 2023 running Windows 11 23H2. It has BitLocker and SecureBoot enabled in addition to the most recent UEFI firmware available installed I believe this will have the most chance of installing and using these updates.

Thanks in advance for any further advice.

Microfix wrote:

RetiredGeek wrote:

Updated daily driver today. It took an hour and a half!

Microfix wrote:

Observation: The CU took a lot longer than usual to install

Took a good hour then, where it usually takes 15-20 mins.

guesstimate: I think that the slow update is attributed to removing edge.
I can live with slow updates if that’s the case YMMV

This is strange. I’ve updated two Windows 10 22H2 systems so far and they took the usual 15 to 20 minutes.

Agreed, YMMV. I’ll keep updating the remainder of my systems and see if this changes. Thanks.

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Microfix

Alex5723 wrote:

https://security.googleblog.com/2023/08/an-update-on-chrome-security-updates.html

To get security fixes to you faster, starting now in Chrome 116, Chrome is shipping weekly Stable channel updates.

Chrome ships a new milestone release every four weeks. In between those major releases, we ship updates to address security and other high impact bugs. We currently schedule one of these Stable channel updates (or “Stable Refresh”) between each milestone. Starting in Chrome 116, Stable updates will be released every week between milestones.

This should not change how you use or update Chrome, nor is the frequency of milestone releases changing, but it does mean security fixes will get to you faster…

* What will Edge and other Chromium browsers do ?

Its likely the fixes will be incorporated into the Edge builds. Edge already releases updates 3 to 4 times per month so this shouldn’t be hard to add to the routine updates.

Hi everyone,

I’ve patched 3x Windows 11 22H2 systems and 2x Windows 10 22H2 64 bit systems and have not experienced any issues.

All systems have SSD primary hard drives and no SSD slowdown was observed. I benchmarked the systems before and after the updates using CrystalDiskmark. I only did so since there were reports of SSD slowdown and other issues within the following article:

https://www.windowslatest.com/2023/04/13/windows-11-kb5025239-issues-file-explorer-ssd-bsod/

Thanks.

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geekdom

Error, please ignore. Sorry.

I need not have been concerned. I went to install the February 2023 on my system with Office 2010 64 bit installed (all patches for Office 2010 have been installed) and the kb5021751 was not offered during the automatic Windows 10 22H2 updates.

I do have the option of installing other updates checked but I’m just relieved this “update” wasn’t offered. I hope this is useful.

Sorry I realize this is an old thread but does this ASR GUI tool work on Windows 11?

Thanks.

Hi everyone,

Thanks for highlighting this update. Is there a means to block this update, please?

I tried the steps (included below) from BleepingComputer but the update is not listed within the updates to hide (only old optional driver updates are listed).

One of my older systems uses Windows 10 22H2 with Office 2010 64 bit installed. Thanks in advance for any advice:

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Download and run the “Show or hide updates” troubleshooter
Click on ‘Next’
Select the KB5021751 update
Click on ‘Next’
Restart your device if prompted
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Thanks everyone for your replies. In summary, I will perform an in-place upgrade to Windows 10 21H2 on this Intel 980X system and let you know how it goes.

I have 1 week of leave from work in September and will use some of that time to carry out this upgrade. I would do this on a standard weekend but if something goes (unlikely) I’ll need time to resolve it.

Paul T wrote:

Make an image backup before you do the in place upgrade, just in case.

cheers, Paul

Don’t worry, I will do this. That way I can put everything back the way it was should something go wrong. A safety net like this is a must before undertaking something like this in my opinion.