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AskWoody LoungerDecember 10, 2019 at 1:28 pm #2017504It’s large because the monthly Windows 8.1 cumulative update (as released on the Download Center) includes every patch released since Windows 8.1 Update was released in 2014.ย Hence the term “cumulative”.
If you install directly through Windows Update, the download is smaller because it knows what patch you level you already have, so it only sends you what you need.
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AskWoody MVPDecember 10, 2019 at 2:38 pm #2017552Itโs large because the monthly Windows 8.1 cumulative update (as released on the Download Center) includes every patch released since Windows 8.1 Update was released in 2014. .
I’m sure it was October 2016 when CU’s were introduced for Win7 and Win8.1 and patches previous to this were singular.
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ManagerDecember 10, 2019 at 12:35 pm #2017437Group B Security-only Updates and the IE11 Cumulative Update have been updated for December on AKB2000003.
Notice: the Security-only patch contains a Win7 EOL nag screen
IMPORTANT Starting on January 15, 2020, a full-screen notification will appear that describes the risk of continuing to use Windows 7 Service Pack 1 after it reaches end of support on January 14, 2020. The notification will remain on the screen until you interact with it. This notification will only appear on the following editions of Windows 7 Service Pack 1:
- Starter.
- Home Basic.
- Home Premium.
- Professional. If you have purchased the Extended Security Update (ESU), the notification will not appear. For more information, see How to get Extended Security Updates for eligible Windows devices and Lifecycle FAQ-Extended Security Updates.
- Ultimate.
Note The notification will not appear on domain-joined machines or machines in kiosk mode.
UPDATE: @abbodi86 has updated theย win10Tel script in AKB2000012 to surpress the Win7 EOS notification installed with Rollup KB4530734 and SO KB4530692 . See #2017648.
NOTE: There is a new SSU for Win7 KB4531786.
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AskWoody PlusDecember 10, 2019 at 2:28 pm #2017546Notice: the Security-only patch contains a Win7 EOL nag screen
D#%&!ย That really makes me mad.ย I really hope there’s a way to undo that Nag.ย Maybe a registry entry or something.
Thanks very much for letting us know about that PK.
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MemberDecember 10, 2019 at 4:17 pm #2017611In Windows 7, at least, the magic word is “hide”. Open Windows Update and right-click the name of the unwanted update listed there as waiting to be installed, to get the choice to hide it. Or any other update you don’t want. I always hide the S&Q Rollup and all the Preliminary releases, plus whatever else I don’t want ever to be installed.
If later there is a good reason to change your mind, you can look or the update in the “Hidden Updates” list, also somewhere in Windows Update, to “unhide” and install it.
Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).
MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
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GuestDecember 10, 2019 at 2:42 pm #2017551Well that just means that I do not have to worry about Installing that “Security Only” Dec 2019 patch on any of my 4 Windows 7 laptops. I’ll just have to live with skipping 2 of the other months of “Security Only” updates and Dec as well.
Some folks have been skipping updates starting from Oct 2016 and onwardย so a few skipped months are not the end of the world.
That 8.1 rollup is large but does that include Telemetry as well and will there still be a Group B option via the update catalog for any 8.1 “Security Updates” that may need to be skipped.
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AskWoody PlusDecember 10, 2019 at 3:45 pm #2017589I know this going to sound kinda dumb, but Patch Lady said she was going to be looking into how 7 Pro users could ge an extra year for $50; Woody expressed interest too. Now, I went thru all those links about how to get an ESU, and I’m more confused than ever.ย Questions:
- Has anyone here successfully gotten a $50 ESU yet?
- Can you use PayPal?
I guess I need a simpleton’s road map for this.
Thanks to all!
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AskWoody_MVPDecember 10, 2019 at 12:55 pm #2017461Weโll keep you posted on any identified bugs, of course.
How will you know if “all Windows users need to take a few minutes to make sure our machines don’t have a “Kick Me” sign pasted on them.”?
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GuestDecember 10, 2019 at 12:56 pm #2017464There is a reincarnation of KB4493132 (Windows 7 EOS nagware). This time, it is included in KB4530692 (December Security-only update). Particularly, it is
Eosnotify.exe (version 6.1.7601.24541, dated 6-Dec-19,1:40).
It is mentioned in https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4530692/windows-7-update-kb4530692:IMPORTANT Starting on January 15, 2020, a full-screen notification will appear that describes the risk of continuing to use Windows 7 Service Pack 1 after it reaches end of support on January 14, 2020. The notification will remain on the screen until you interact with it. This notification will only appear on the following editions of Windows 7 Service Pack 1:
- Starter.
- Home Basic.
- Home Premium.
- Professional. If you have purchased the Extended Security Update (ESU), the notification will not appear. For more information, see How to get Extended Security Updates for eligible Windows devices and Lifecycle FAQ-Extended Security Updates.
- Ultimate.
Note The notification will not appear on domain-joined machines or machines in kiosk mode.
Checked file information for KB4530692 (available at https://download.microsoft.com/download/d/8/4/d84af77d-cd59-46d6-a5ad-c83effa42882/4530692.csv), and found no telemetry stuff this month.
And, there is also new Servicing Stack for Windows 7 – KB4531786. Of course, we have also Cumulative security update for IE11 – KB4530677.
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AskWoody_MVPDecember 11, 2019 at 9:49 pm #2018287And trust MS to not nag you again to convert to Win X?
Yes:
How do I turn off or disable notifications?
To turn off or disable future notifications, select Do not notify me again in the lower left corner of the notification, and then close the window.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4057281
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AskWoody PlusDecember 10, 2019 at 4:33 pm #2017613The easiest way is to anticipate EOL by a couple of months and not install any further updates from and including the December ones.
That’s a course I may end up taking anyway given that the November updates are the likely cause of an ongoing problem with my first machine as a result of which I haven’t installed them on my other machine. I’ll review the situation when I get to the bottom of the problem, but I won’t lose any sleep over missing the last couple of months worth of updates from here on, while I finalise what to do in terms of upgrading my existing machines or replacing at least one of them as I was previously planning on doing during the 1st or 2nd quarter of 2020. It’s either carry on with Windows 7 or move to Windows 10 for me, there aren’t any other viable options, but I’m not going to panic over sorting it by mid-January, that’s for sure.
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AskWoody LoungerDecember 11, 2019 at 8:04 am #2017919Seff: You should look at the 0patch.com website to get critical updates for Windows 7. Woody wrote about it recently, as did Martin on ghacks.
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GuestDecember 10, 2019 at 4:13 pm #2017603KB4531786, and why so many Servicing Stack updates in the final months of Windows 7’s life. And I’m beginning to suspect that something else is going on there.
I’ve already removed MSE from the 3 out of 4 Laptops that had MSE installed because one of those laptops had update issues related to MSE’s signature errors and my event logs full of MSE errors on that one laptop after Installing Nov’s SSU and trying to install the Nov 2019 Win 7 security only update that failed because the laptop black screened while rebooting to apply the Nov SO update.
I’m really wanting to hear more about just what’s having to be fixed, on almost a monthly basis, with these Windows 7 Servicing Stack updates.
MSE is going by by as well but MSE really has had issues starting properly after an update reboot over the past 8 months for me on my 3 laptops that had MSE installed. And on more than on occasion after restarting to apply updates MSE would itself fail to start at all and I’d have to reboot again to be safe.
I guess after 7 goes EOL it will take a good while before other software products begin to drop support as well but how long did that take for XP once XP’s time was “officially” up before the third party software ecosystem transitioned fully to Windows 7.
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AskWoody PlusDecember 10, 2019 at 5:07 pm #2017624I was offered the auto-pilot update on 1909 x64 Pro. Installed. Was not offered again after reboot. So, I can’t speak to whether or not the update *should* have been offered, but it did install and checking for updates after reboot shows that I’m up to date …
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AskWoody PlusDecember 10, 2019 at 1:40 pm #2017514Moved to Win10 ver 1903 several weeks ago.
Checked the Forums here at Woody regarding 1909 – nothing much negative reported.
Can someone advise if we have the go-ahead to upgrade to 1909 and if not, what is/are the issues we are waiting a fix for?
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ManagerDecember 10, 2019 at 1:57 pm #2017533This is what Woody wrote in a ComputerWorld article:
Version 1909 โย The minimally invasive โservice packโ versionย โ has a few bugs of its own, mostly Explorer Search related, but itโs only been available for a few weeks. If you trust Microsoftโs patching ability, thereโs no reason to delay moving to 1909. On the other hand, if you want to wait and see what happens, youโd be well advised to wait a couple of months or more.
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AskWoody PlusDecember 10, 2019 at 3:12 pm #2017575A W10-1709 new HP desktop purch’d Feb ’19 …ย I’m at 1909 and continue issue-free use and Updates of Win 10. 2016 Hm-Stdnt Office C2R also updated rapidly. Only show Kb4530684 Dec Cum Update and Kb 4533002 Net Frmwk (I’m 4.8) in both Settings & Con Panel WU History. Macrium images always ready at WU …. W10-64 1909 — 18363.535 ……………
W10 Pro 22H2 / Hm-Stdnt Ofce '16 C2R / Macrium Pd vX / GP=2 + FtrU=Semi-Annual + Feature Defer = 1 + QU = 0
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GuestDecember 10, 2019 at 3:50 pm #2017590Seems like EOS nagware can be disabled in a simple way using taskschd.msc (Task Scheduler).
It creates new grop (under: \Microsoft\Windows) , named โSetupโ, which contains two tasks: โEOSNotifyโ and โEOSNotify2โ. By default, the latter is set to run everyday at 12 AM, starting from January, 15. They simply run โ%windir%\System32\EOSNotify.exeโ
It can be disabled and/or deleted via command prompt:
Disable:
schtasks /Change /DISABLE /TN โMicrosoft\Windows\Setup\EOSNotifyโ
schtasks /Change /DISABLE /TN โMicrosoft\Windows\Setup\EOSNotify2โ
Removal:
schtasks /Delete /F /TN โMicrosoft\Windows\Setup\EOSnotifyโ
schtasks /Delete /F /TN โMicrosoft\Windows\Setup\EOSnotify2โ
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ManagerDecember 11, 2019 at 7:02 am #2017890The KB article has been modified to say:
This update was available through Windows Update. However, we have removed it because it was being offered incorrectly. When an organization registers or configures a device for Windows Autopilot deployment, the device setup automatically updates Windows Autopilot to the latest version.
Note There is no effect on Windows Autopilot being offered to Windows 10 devices. If you were offered this update and do not use Autopilot, installing this update will not affect you. Windows Autopilot update should not be offered to Windows 10 Home.
Translation: We screwed up again, just like we did in October.
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GuestDecember 10, 2019 at 7:35 pm #2017670I installed this patch just now on 1909 and encountered an issue.
After installing and rebooting, I noticed the panel with pinned icons was missing from the start menu. Additionally, programs that are not pinned (appears to be EVERY non UWP app stored in %APPDATA% and C:\ProgramData) also disappeared, despite the shortcuts being on my disk just fine.
After a minute, the pinned panel itself came back up. All the shortcuts are still there, but the text and icons are missing, and they just say things like W~C:\Program\path or W~UUID or W~{UUID} or W~Microsoft.AutoGenerated.{UUID}
My search indexing service is off (but it’s always been off and the startmenu has worked without hitches). Probably not a dealbreaker like that 100% CPU usage bug, but annoying. It may resolve after a restart or a log in/log out like some minor start menu issues I’ve ran into.
Not sure how this happened with a security patch, even when I ran into the CPU usage bug all the shortcuts were still there… Never seen anything like it.
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GuestDecember 10, 2019 at 7:38 pm #2017677And… it’s gone after a reboot (unsurprisingly). Not sure if any of the updates I installed today (below) even impact the start menu (I guess I could look at the manifests). Maybe the update process just exposed some race condition or loose logic. But I’ve never had this happen before.
- Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – December 2019 (KB890830)
- 2019-12 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64 (KB4533002)
- 2019-12 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems (KB4530684)
- Update for Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Tools for Office Runtime (KB3001652)
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AskWoody LoungerDecember 11, 2019 at 8:33 am #2017942I have seen conflicting information as to whether the registry key belongs under HKEY_CURRENT_USER or HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. Can someone please clarify.
Also, the registry path cited above is appearing as truncated. I would assume that the intended registry path ends with …CurrentVersion\EOSNotify but I am not sure.
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AskWoody_MVPDecember 11, 2019 at 8:53 am #2017959It works for both, the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE one should suppress it for all users
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\EOSNotify]
“DiscontinueEOS”=dword:00000001[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\EOSNotify]
“DiscontinueEOS”=dword:00000001
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AskWoody MVPDecember 11, 2019 at 8:37 am #2017943see:
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-7-to-show-full-screen-windows-10-upgrade-alerts/
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AskWoody LoungerDecember 10, 2019 at 8:17 pm #2017694An unavoidable nag screen for Windows 7 users? I wonder if the nag screen can be dismissed permanently or if it will appear on every boot like that “Unsupported Hardware” screen which appears every time I boot Windows 8.1 on my system using a Ryzen 7 1700X CPU (curiously it does not appear when I boot Windows 7 on that system).
The note does not mention Windows 7 Enterprise so if I am running that version I assume the nag screen will not appear.
If there is no way to dismiss it permanently I may consider not installing the patches for the last 2 months (except Windows 7 Enterprise). Let the Windows 7 systems stay on November 2019 patch level.
Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.
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MemberDecember 11, 2019 at 12:14 am #2017756I think that I’ll also stay away from those two last Security Only patches and try using 0patch (the free version) instead, until I decide whether to switch to their paid ‘Pro’ version or to stop using 0patch altogether.
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AskWoody_MVPDecember 10, 2019 at 8:36 pm #2017701Hey Y’all,
I accidentally installed the Dec patches on my TEST machine. How did I do that you may ask. Well I turned it on and went do do something else and when I returned there is the “Reboot Now” message. Well since I have a image taken Friday and It’s a test machine I said what the heck. I’ll let you know if I run into any problems. ๐
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AskWoody LoungerDecember 10, 2019 at 11:02 pm #2017735Yes, MS seem to be great at coding things like “W7 end of support” and “W7 and 8.1 unsupported hardware” nag screens and the entire former (has it really ended?) GWX campaign.
Perhaps they should concentrate a bit more on coding security and bug fixes instead.
A little less ‘Ninja Cats’ and ‘Taco Hats’ and instead, getting on with the job of providing a secure and stable operating system for all of their paying customers.
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AskWoody PlusDecember 10, 2019 at 11:53 pm #2017749Right on, Susan!
I followed all those links in PCano’s post #2017437, and I wound up more confused than ever. Maybe that’s the idea: to have the process so labyrinthine so ordinary folks with 7 Pro can’t figure it out!
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AskWoody LoungerDecember 10, 2019 at 10:47 pm #2017732I just patched my Win-10-Home-64bit-1909.
Microsoft fed me
KB4533002 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8
KB4530684 Cumulative Update (OS Build 18363.535)It installed flawlessly.
1 Desktop Win 11
1 Laptop Win 10
Both tweaked to look, behave and feel like Windows 95
(except for the marine blue desktop, rgb(0, 3, 98)IndyPilot80
AskWoody LoungerDecember 11, 2019 at 8:05 am #2017921Not sure if I’m missing something here. I see KB4533002 (.NET Update) in WSUS. The title says for 1903 but in the description it says for 1903 and 1909. My test workstations aren’t getting it from WSUS and it says it isn’t applicable. But, when I use “Check Online for Updates from Microsoft”, it downloads it but it update title says it’s for 1909.
Have they not released it for 1909 in WSUS yet?
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AskWoody_MVPDecember 11, 2019 at 8:19 am #2017933No
http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4533002they probably forgot, with all this 1903/1909 confusion they created
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AskWoody LoungerDecember 11, 2019 at 8:46 am #2017952No
http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=KB4533002they probably forgot, with all this 1903/1909 confusion they created
That’s kind of what I figured. Thanks for confirming.
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GuestDecember 11, 2019 at 10:18 am #2017987All our Server 2012 (non R2) servers got caught in restart loops. Had to boot into Safe Mode to break out of it. Server 2016 installed it, restarted multiple times, then came up. KB4530689 shows installed in history and is also pending/available for install. So looks like it reverted. Haven’t checked the R2 boxes yet since they all seemed to reboot and come up in our early ring that auto updates.
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AskWoody MVPDecember 11, 2019 at 10:33 am #2017994Woody, On a slight side note to the running commentry..MSFT has pulled December 10th Office 365 Client Updates From Catalog:
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GuestDecember 11, 2019 at 11:42 am #2018015I will report a big problem with KB4530734.ย Using Windows 7 Professional.
On reboot, the system got stuck on “preparing to configure windows.”ย I waited maybe 15 or 20 minutes.ย I had to do a hard reboot, then boot into safe mode.ย Safe mode then gave me a message saying IIRC update failed, reverting to previous version.ย After a bit of activity, the safe mode booted itself into regular mode, where I got the same message, update failed, reverting to previous version.ย The system then came up normally.
I gave it another try, since windows update reported this was still a pending update.ย I had to go through exactly the same process.ย So I have hidden KB4530734 and will not be dealing with it again.
The November patch failed and I could only install it manually.ย Up until November, I installed all important updates easily and quickly.ย I don’t know what is going on, but I am inclined to ignore the next and final Windows 7 patch.
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ManagerDecember 11, 2019 at 11:58 am #2018036We are still under DEFCON-2 for December patches. That means WAIT and let someone else be the Guinea pig Beta tester.
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GuestDecember 11, 2019 at 8:09 pm #2018258Thanks PKCano for comment.ย However, it’s not clear how MS is controlling this update and its application to different Win editions.ย It actually installs successfully on Win10 Pro 1803 64 bit by download and standalone Win installer, moving up from build 17134.1130 (Nov) to 17134.1184 (Dec).ย ย No messages, errors, or immediate stability issues.ย So it would seem that some 1803 users can continue to update 1803 manually from the Update Catalog a bit longer,ย while checking on version 1909.
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AskWoody LoungerDecember 12, 2019 at 4:33 am #2018366I am seeing this offered automatically for some otherwise normal-looking W10 Pro 1803 boxes.
Something is definitely funny in here.
Hm, right, should check the deferral settings on these… since I’m not seeing a feature update queued for them.
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AskWoody LoungerDecember 12, 2019 at 4:38 am #2018368Oh hey, my guinea pig 1909 box just failed the cumulative.
Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x800F0845: 2019-12 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems (KB4530684).
So. That’s a 4th-gen Intel Core i5 (HD 4600 GPU)… Sophos AV/etc suite.
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ManagerDecember 22, 2019 at 2:14 pm #2022222Time to report my experience with December updates.
+ Win10 v1903 – Feature deferrals set to 365 days (no 1909, thank you). Updated KB4530684 Build 18362.535 without a problem.
+ Win10 1809 – Feature deferrals set to 365 days. Updated to KB4530715 Build 17763.914 without any problems.
+ Win10 v1803- Feature deferrals set to 365 days. Big surprise. It’s supposed to be EOL, but I was offered and installed KB4530717 Build 17134.1184. No sign of the offer for any later version or the “Download and install now” section b/c of the 365 deferral.
+ (4) Win8.1 Pro, one 32-bit, three 64-bit, using Windows Update, including updates for .NET, Office 2010 and MSRT. No problems.+ (8) Win7 combination ofย four h/w installs and four VMs. Two 32-bit Home, one 32-bit Pro, one 64-bit Home and three 64-bit Ultimate. All were done using Windows Update, including Rollups, .NET, Office 2010, and MSRT. In all cases the SSU was installed when it showed up AFTER the install/reboot.
I did experience two reboots during the main install and the screen being black for longer than usual (but not excessively long). I just waited and the install completed with no problems.
On the two 32-bit Home machines, when I ran CCleaner Portable as cleanup afterward, it crashed. Both machines are running Bitdefender Free. The fix was to make an exception for the ccleaner.exe in Bitdefender. I turned the exception off and on to prove the solution. This happened ONLY with 32-bit Home, and not with any other 32 or 64 bit combination.4 users thanked author for this post.
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AskWoody LoungerDecember 23, 2019 at 10:20 pm #2022814PKCano wrote:
+Win10 v1803- Feature deferrals set to 365 days. Big surprise. Itโs supposed to be EOL, but I was offered and installed KB4530717 Build 17134.1184.Much to my surprise, running Windows 10 Pro Version 1803 with a 13 day update deferral and feature deferrals set to 365 days, I just had the same experience today.
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AskWoody PlusDecember 22, 2019 at 2:36 pm #2022233Win10 v1903 โ Feature deferrals set to 365 days (no 1909, thank you). Updated KB4530684 Build 18362.535 without a problem.
Upgraded Win 10 1809 Pro (by setting Feature deferrals to 120 days and Quality Updates to 0) to 1903 :
KB4530684 (18362.535), KB4522741 (CU.NET), KB4519573 (CU .NET), KB4524569 (Servicing Stack), Flash Update.1 problem : creating new folder, files, copying files.. to an external USB 3.0 HD doesn’t show in Windows Explorer unless I click on the refresh icon.
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