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    ISSUE 21.05.1 • 2024-01-30 By Susan Bradley The partition-sizing problem that emerged earlier this month is not yet fixed. Fortunately, our deep exami
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    Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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    • #2632656

      iPhone’s Stolen Device Protection has a fatal flaw, but you can fix it

      ..However, if a user has Significant Locations enabled and is currently located in a familiar location, they won’t get these extra layers of security.

      “When your iPhone is in a familiar location, these additional steps are not required, and you can use your device passcode like usual,”..

      “By default, the protections are nullified when at a familiar location. The problem is you have NO CONTROL over what is familiar,” ..

      The problem occurs if your iPhone marks your favorite bar, restaurant, or public hangout spot as “familiar,” Stolen Device Protection can be toggled off without the need for biometric authentication…

      you can turn off Significant Locations by going to Settings > Privacy & Security > Location Services > System Services > Significant Locations. Once disabled, Face ID or Touch ID will be implicitly required to turn off Stolen Device Protection…

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      • #2632677

        Being unable to view and edit your familiar locations is a little bizarre for Apple, known for its user privacy and transparency.

        Apple did allow this previously.  You used to be able to view and edit the list.  They disabled it with iOS 15 or one of the early point releases.  Word at the time was the change was made for privacy reasons and reduce stalking for someone in a domestic violence situation.

        I used the feature all the time for work tracking but had to go to a third party app after the change.

    • #2632669

      When copying the DSIM command from the Alert, be sure to replace the disk and partition number with those on your system.

    • #2632676

      Thanks Susan – the Block a Patch trick worked great on KB5034441 on my Win10 PC.

      Custom Build - Intel i5 9400 5 Core CPU & ASUS TUF Z390 Plus Motherboard
      Edition Windows 10 Home
      Version 22H2

      Dell Laptop - Inspiron 15 11th Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1135G7 Processor
      Edition Windows 11 Home
      Version 23H2

    • #2632651

      So, when I unpause to update:

      I just let the updates run and install. (The buggy one will likely fail.)

      I use the wushowhide tool and hide the buggy update.

      Then I reboot.

      Is this the correct order?

    • #2632655

      That Dism command command causes an error 87 (for me, anyway)….apparently it doesn’t recognise past the “?”. BTW, WindowsRE is on partition 3 of my drive.

      Perhaps I’m typing it it wrong…either with or without a space between that ? and the \GLOBALROOT… I still receive the error.

    • #2632657

      Since updating my iPhone to iOS 17.3 I’m noticing significantly increased battery drain. Anyone else?

    • #2632784

      Wanted to install KB5033909 .NET 3.5 and 4.8 on my Win 10 Pro 22H2, but https://catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=5033909 can’t find it (anymore).

      ??

      EDIT: Never mind. PKCano explained it in #2627403

      LMDE is my daily driver now. Old friend Win10 keeps spinning in the background
    • #2632777

      I am curious why the DEF-CON level is 5 (low) to 1 (high), instead of 1 to 5. I only just realised this. It makes more sense (to me) that 5 would be the highest level.

    • #2632794

      The Askwoody DEFCON  levels “mirror” the US/NORAD DEFCON (Defense Readiness Condition) where level 1 = Maximum Alert and level 5 = No Alert.

      DefconLevels

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      • #2632886

        I don’t know why I sometimes have to stop and think about whether 1 = maximum. I read/watched enough DEFCON-filled books/movies as a kid to know better. It’s actually not that unusual – top 10 lists, priority #1, first place finish, etc.

    • #2632798

      In Mater Patch List  -Win10 KB5033918  and KB5033909   under .NET

      KB5033918  – .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8.1 for Windows 10 Version 21H2 and Windows 10 Version 22H2

      KB5033909 – .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8 for Windows 10 Version 21H2 and Windows 10 Version 22H2

      The descriptions above don’t match the ones in the Master Patch List

       

      Below is the one I was given:

      KB5034275 – .NET Framework 3.5, 4.8 and 4.8.1 for Windows 10 Version 22H2

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      • #2632800

        KB5034275 – .NET Framework 3.5, 4.8 and 4.8.1 for Windows 10 Version 22H2 is a Rollup (or Parent) that contains (children) KB5033918 for 3.5/4.8.1 and KB5033909 for 3.5/4.8.

        Depending on what is installed on your computer, you will get one or the other of the children.

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        • #2632808

          Thanks, I see. KB5033909 was the one that was actually installed on my machine.   It was just confusing prior to installation not to see KB5034275 on the Master Patch List

        • #2633184

          Thanks PKCano for that clarification.

          So any issues installing that one?

           

    • #2632801

      Since updating my iPhone to iOS 17.3 I’m noticing significantly increased battery drain. Anyone else?

      Not me running only beta versions.

    • #2632779

      What do i need to do if i don’t have Bitlocker and Windows RE status: Disabled ?

      thx for answer

      • #2632854

        What do i need to do if i don’t have Bitlocker and Windows RE status: Disabled ?

        From an Admin command prompt, run:

        reagentc /info

        If the WinRE location is not blank, try running:

        reagentc /enable

        If that fails, or if the location was blank, the easiest way to restore it is to run an in-place/repair upgrade to your current version of Windows. This will create a new Recovery partition after your C: drive partition by shrinking the C: drive to make space. You may end up with 2 small Recovery partitions, but only 1 will be active.

        If you don’t have space for a recovery partition, the installer will try to set it up in the C:\Windows\System32\Recovery directory.

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    • #2632812

      Windows 11 Pro 23H2 updates took at least 35 minutes from start to finish. But all is well, didn’t get any errors.

      2024-01 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8.1 for Windows 11, version 23H2 for x64 (KB5033920)
      2024-01 Cumulative Update for Windows 11 Version 23H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5034123) Sat at 0 percent for at least 5 minutes or more before it went to 30 percent and restarted.
      Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool x64 – v5.120 (KB890830)

      Before I could pause again it was downloading Preview KB5034204. When I clicked on Learn More now it says to install KB5027397. I did not install that one. Should I?

      Windows 11 Pro
      Version 23H2
      OS build 22631.5189

      • #2632814

        KB5027397 is the Enablement Package to update to Win11 23H2 (the Feature Update). Aren’t you already on 23H2?

        • #2632816

          Yes I am. I will leave that one alone. Thank you.

          Windows 11 Pro
          Version 23H2
          OS build 22631.5189

    • #2632817

      Re: 2024-01 Security Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5034441).

      It failed to install three times and I received the following message, “There were some problems installing updates, but we’ll try again later. If you keep seeing this and want to search the web or contact support for information, this may help: (0x80070643)”.

      The computer in question is a HP ENVY Desktop – 795-0050 having:

      • Operating system – Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Version: 19045.3930
      • Microprocessor – Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz
      • System memory – 16 GB
      • Drive – Western Digital 2 TB WDS200T2BOA SSD C of which 0.5 TB are used
      • BitLocker – not in use

      Consistent with Susan Bradley’s recommendation that, “I do not believe that consumer users should be installing KB5034441 in the first place.”  We will skip the update this month and revisit the issue next month unless advised otherwise.

      • #2632835

        Re: 2024-01 Security Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5034441).

        Failed to install on a second computer an:

        • HP Elite Book 840 G3 Notebook
        • Operating system – Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Version: 19045.3930
        • Microprocessor – Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U @ 2.40GHz
        • System memory – 8 GB
        • Drive – 255 GB which 51GB are used
        • BitLocker – not in use
        • #2632863

          Re: 2024-01 Security Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5034441).

          Failed to install on a third computer a:

          • HP Elite Book 840 G3 Notebook
          • Operating system – Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Version: 19045.3930
          • Microprocessor – Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U @ 2.40GHz
          • System memory – 8 GB
          • Drive – 476 GB of which 52GB are used
          • BitLocker – not in use
          • #2632972

            Re: 2024-01 Security Update for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5034441).

            Failed to install on a fourth computer a:

            • HP EliteDesk 800 G2 Tower PC
            • Operating system – Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Version: 19045.3930
            • Microprocessor – Intel Core i7 6700 (3.4 GHz)
            • System memory – 16 GB
            • Drive – WD Blue 3D NAND 2TB PC SSD of which 75TB are used
            • BitLocker – not in use
            • #2632977

              Just discovered that Microsoft 365 (Office) was downloaded and installed as part of the January updates on one of our laptops.

            • #2633181

              In addition to Microsoft 365 (Office) showing up on one of our ThinkPads, the following Windows Apps installed while updating two of our EliteBook 840 G3s on January 31:

              • Calculator,
              • Clock,
              • Mail and Calendar,
              • Media Player,
              • Microsoft Office 365,
              • Movies & TV,
              • Phone Link,
              • Photos,
              • Skype,
              • Spotify,
              • Store Experience Host,
              • Tips,
              • VP9 Video Extension,
              • Web Media Extensions, and
              • Windows Camera.
    • #2632842

      I have the same question as above:

      So, when I un-pause to update:

      I just let the updates run and install. (The buggy one will likely fail.)

      I use the wushowhide tool and hide the buggy update.

      Then I reboot.

      Is this the correct order?

       

      What other block a patch tricks are there, can someone summarize?

      Win 10 Home 22H2

    • #2632857

      Regarding KB5034441,  Susan Bradley wrote:

      “But if you haven’t taken precautions, don’t worry. Even if the update fails to install, it will just give you an annoying error of 0x80070643. Then you can use the tools at BlockAPatch.com to hide the update.”

      My question is this:  If I feel like I’d rather put up with the annoying error message,  can I skip hiding the update using the tools at BlockAPatch.com?  If the only consequence is an annoying error message,  then maybe I’d rather put up with it than go through the work of hiding the update.

      • #2633804

        My question is this: If I feel like I’d rather put up with the annoying error message, can I skip hiding the update

        Yes

        Win 11 home - 24H2
        Attitude is a choice...Choose wisely

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      • #2634120

        My thinking exactly. This particular error message is not bad news; why hide what won’t install anyway?

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        • #2634734

          I chose not to hide the update, and it’s been 5 days since then and I haven’t seen any annoying error messages, but maybe that’s because I put it back into “Pause Updates”.  The KB5034441 failed to install on my desktop computer,  and when I want to try again later,  I’ll remove the pause,  but maybe that won’t be until I install the February updates at the end of the month.

          • #2635150

            I’ve just updated my desktop PC (W10, 22H2) and kb5034441 failed with download error Ox80070643, which I was quite pleased about. I have now paused updates until just before patch Tuesday in March so hope to hear no more about it. We all trust MS will have fixed the problem by then!

            • #2635208

              On the other hand, kb5034441 installed quite happily to my laptop, Win10 Home 22H2 (the desktop is Pro, I forgot to say!). In the light of all I’ve read about it I had mixed feelings about that, but all other updates ran smoothly as per usual, so presumably it is for the best. I guess I just had sufficient space in the relevant partition on my laptop, but as I’ve never used Bitlocker on either device my feeling is that this patch is completely surplus to my requirements.

    • #2632862

      iPhone Updates:

      I am currently still using iOS 16.7.2 on an iPhone 12 because I have read that the iOS 17 Updates can slow down older phones.

      Is this still an issue?

      • #2632874

        I am using iOS 17.3 on an iPhone SE2 I have had for a number of years, and have had no problems. I don’t know how that compares age-wise to an iPhon 12.

    • #2632889

      As with others posting here, I resumed updates and KB 5034441 failed on my first computer and I haven’t gotten to my other 2 computers yet. So I let it finish and then ran WU ShowHide to block it. I assume that is the correct procedure.

      WU-error

      I have never used WUShowHide so I started it and chose Hide files and then it ran a troubleshooter and it said “Fixed” so I don’t know if it is hidden or actually fixed LOL. Any thoughts?

       

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

      • #2632894

        Observation: You didn’t have an install failure, you had a download failure. I saw this on my Win10. See #2628205 and #2629983. After the CU and .NET installed, I retried KB5034441 and it downloaded/installed without error.

        Unhide it and try again. You can always re-hide it if it fails.

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        • #2632905

          Ok I had repaused updates so I went to WUShowHide and started it to unhide KB 5034441 and evidently it hadn’t hidden the update because it said that there were no hidden updates.

          I went to WU and resumed checking for updates and it doesn’t find any updates. I looked in Update history and it’s not listed there and I went to control panel>view installed updates and it’s not listed there either. So at this point, I don’t know what happened since it isn’t listed anywhere.

          Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
          All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

        • #2632928

          After the CU and .NET installed, I retried KB5034441 and it downloaded/installed without error. Unhide it and try again. You can always re-hide it if it fails.

          EXACTLY what I tried, but no joy, it failed twice. So, it now sits hidden, right alongside KB4023057 which was getting kind of lonely!

          Only difference, I d/l’d and installed each one by itself, rebooting after each one, keeping KB5034441 hidden the entire time until the other updates had fully installed and the computer had rebooted after the final one’s installation (I had 3: MSRT, KB5034122, and the .NET update). That’s when I tried out of curiosity, but got the same error both times.

          My system’s a BIOS/MBR system with no readily apparent recovery partition that’s present in either Disk Management nor with the help of Mini Tool Partition Wizard. SO, it’s just like MS says in their note about this update, if you don’t have a recovery partition, you don’t need the update!

    • #2632946

      … EXACTLY what I tried, but no joy, it failed twice. So, it now sits hidden, right alongside KB4023057 which was getting kind of lonely!

      I allow Windows Update to manage updates on my Win 10 Pro v22H2 machine and let it install any update it recommends, including the occasional update for KB4023057 (Update Health Tools — Windows Update Service Components) and KB5005463 (PC Health Check). See my 17-Sep-2024 post # 2587904 in Kobac’s KB4023057 for further details.

      Win-10-Pro-v22H2-Control-Panel-MS-Update-Health-Tools-v3_74_0_0-30-Jan-2024

      The January 2024 WinRE update KB5034441 installed on my Win 10 machine without any issues even though I only had 123 GB of free disk space on my WinRE patition – see the images in my 16-Jan-2024 post # 2628138 in Susan Bradley’s Ready for the new patching year?.  According to the EaseUS 11-Jan-2024 article What Is Microsoft Update Health Tools? Everything You Need to Know this program performs a variety of functions for Windows Update (i.e., in addition to determining if my system ready for a Feature Update or upgrade to Win 11), so is it possible that KB4023057 somehow “facilitated” the installation of KB5034441 on my system this month even though I did not have the recommended 250 MB of free disk space on my WinRE partition?
      ————-
      Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3930 * Firefox v122.0.0 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.8.311-1.0.2249 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783

      • #2632952

        …so is it possible that KB4023057 somehow “facilitated” the installation of KB5034441 on my system this month even though I did not have the recommended 250 MB of free disk space on my WinRE partition?

        Given the lack of adequate documentation from MS about the inner workings of KB5034441, I believe that it’s entirely possible that KB4023057 may have had a hand in your successful installation.

        I’ve never allowed 4023057 onto either one of my machines from the word “go”. MS lost my trust with the GWX debacle, and I haven’t looked back. Too much potential for it to change my settings from where I have them to control updates. The word “potential” is in italics because, although no one yet has stated that 4023057 has without a doubt changed their update settings to allow updates to flow freely onto their machine no matter what, there’s enough wiggle room in the wording that describes the update’s purpose for it to do just that…change one’s settings without their consent to allow updates to flow unhindered onto one’s machine. OK, I’m stopping there because the potential downside to KB4023057 is, I believe, off topic for this thread.

        Back on topic, what I do know about KB5034441 is that the reason it didn’t install on my machine today is that the machine doesn’t have a formal recovery partition, despite what the output of the reagentc /info command says when I run it. The article for the KB plainly states that if you don’t have a recovery partition, you don’t need the update.

        • #2632980

          I’ve never allowed 4023057 onto either one of my machines from the word “go”. MS lost my trust with the GWX debacle, and I haven’t looked back. Too much potential for it to change my settings from where I have them to control updates.

          Hi Bob99:

          That type of unexpected / forced GWX (Get Windows 10) Feature Update or OS upgrade that has happened in the past can be easily prevented these days. I have a Win 10 Pro OS and used my Local Group Policy Editor (Computer Configuration | Administrative Templates | Windows Components | Windows Update | Windows Update for Business | Select the Target Feature Update Version ) to ensure my system cannot upgrade beyond Windows 10 Version 22H2 until I choose to do (see attached image).

          Win 10/11 Home users who don’t have Local Group Policy Editor (or Win 10/11 Pro users who don’t like using the LGPE) can use Gibson Research Group’s InControl tool to prevent installation of unwanted Feature Updates (e.g., from v22H2 to v23H2) and OS upgrades (e.g., from Win 10 to Win 11).
          ————-
          Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3930 * Firefox v122.0.0 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.8.311-1.0.2249 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783

          • #2633003

            I’m well versed in the use of GP to control update deliveries and delivery settings because both of my machines are Windows 10 Pro, and I’ve used it on Windows 7 Pro as well since 2010.  🙂

            BUT, what’s to say that at some point KB4023057 in its next iteration doesn’t get an instruction set to change all those settings back to Microsoft’s wishes (by changing settings within the registry instead of GP) to deliver updates freely without the user’s intervention and without the consent of the user??

      • #2633105

        Just FYI: I have never let any of the MS Health Tools (or the like) install on any of my machines from Win7 on. So I can’t attribute my success with KB5034441 to any changes they made/make.

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    • #2632982

      We should not be subjected to “bumpy starts”.

    • #2633011

      Just discovered

      You have setup Windows update to update other Microsoft software beside Windows OS.

      On my PC these are blocked (no Microsoft Store…)

      • #2633124

        The version of Office on the PC in question is 2007.

        Support for Office 2007 ended on January 13, 2009.

        Therefore, Office 2007 should not have been updated to 365.

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        • #2633152

          Therefore, Office 2007 should not have been updated to 365.

          Sounds unlikely. Where does it say 365?

          Upgrade from Office 2007 to Microsoft 365

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          • #2633163

            I found it when I ran Revo Uninstaller.

            It carried an Install Date of 1/30/2024

            I uninstalled it and spent a significant amount of time cleaning up its detritus.

          • #2633231

            How did you remove the detritus without impacting Office 2007.  Do you have Revo remove it – on what setting?

            Thanks.

            • #2633282

              We uninstalled Microsoft 365 (Office) using the free version of Revo Uninstaller.

              In addition to removing the program itself, we used Revo Uninstaller to get rid of any orphaned Microsoft 365 related disk files, folders, and registry entries.

              And Revo Uninstaller uninstalled only Microsoft 365 related material and left Office 2007 intact.

              We have also used it to remove Edge and other unwanted Microsoft software from all of our computers

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    • #2633021

      For months I had a huge RAM usage up to ~90% that forced me to restart every 2 weeks.
      Now 20 days after installing Jan. 2024 updates RAM usage is at 32%.
      Microsoft has fixed something in Windows 10 Pro 22H2.

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    • #2633036

      Thank you, Susan.  Your instructions worked perfectly.  I wonder what kind of a patch this would have been without ASK WOODY

    • #2633176

      Question: Is KB 5034441 listed anywhere after it installs??

      Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
      All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

      • #2633806

        I have it listed in control panels, installed updates.

        Win 11 home - 24H2
        Attitude is a choice...Choose wisely

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    • #2633207

      Just an FYI (and it could be unrelated), but I used WUSHOWHIDE to hide KB5034441 before updating (I am on Windows 10 Pro 22H2 and Bitlocker is ON). After updating I received an “Error Encountered” message. “Some update files are missing or have problems. We’ll try to download the update again later. Error code (0x80070003).

      Not seeing any ill-effects (yet). Could it just be that KB5034441 is a security update and WU knows it’s “supposed” to be there since Bitlocker is on? It’s an older Surface Pro and the likelihood of anyone gaining possession is slim. I have no interest in mucking with the recovery partition to get it to try to install and am not opposed to just shutting Bitlocker off (assuming I can find the key if needed, LOL!)

      Thoughts? Thanks!

    • #2633215

      Question: Is KB 5034441 listed anywhere after it installs??

      I installed KB5034441 on an old laptop today and verified the update. The WinRE version information lists the service build number as 3920. This information is consistent with other Windows 10 computers that I updated. The KB5034441 update shows on the ‘View update history’ page. It’s also listed on the ‘Uninstall updates’ window where presumably you can uninstall it as well.

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      • #2633230

        Thanks. Then evidently it never installed on the 2 computers I have updated so far since it’s not listed in either place you mentioned. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I got a “Download failed” and I went to WUSHide to just hide it on the first computer and WUSHide just ran a troubleshooter and said “Fixed” but there is no mention of the KB # anywhere and WUSHide doesn’t find it anymore and the retry during getting updates gave me the same “Download Failed”. WU doesn’t find it anymore either. Another MS Mystery LOL.

        Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
        All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

        • #2633507

          Just an update:

          I just updated my 3rd computer, an older HP ProBook ( I don’t use BitLocker on any of my computers).

          While both of my Desktops didn’t install KB 5034441 with a “Download Failed” my HP ProBook installed it without problems and listed it in installed updates. Not sure what the ramifications are of the Desktops failures ( if any ).

          Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
          All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

    • #2633395
    • #2633508

      Before you go updating any UWP apps using Microsoft Store (I haven’t yet, it may affect my PCs) you should have a look at this:

      Windows 10 users report app gremlins after Microsoft update
      When Redmond says unsupported, it really means it. Windows 11 fans beware

      Old Windows 10 hardware is struggling to open some recently updated Microsoft applications, giving anyone running Windows 11 on unsupported hardware a glimpse of their potential future.

      The answer appears to be the use of old hardware. Intel Core 2 Duo and Quad processors have featured in some of the reports, as well as some AMD Athlon chips. The Core 2 line first turned up in 2006 and, while not on the list of officially supported processors for Windows 10, the processor had more than enough oomph for many productivity tasks, until now.
      A Register reader got in touch to highlight the situation: “A common theory is that the faulting component uses some instruction extension that Core 2 doesn’t support, such as SSE 4.2.”

      The article references Microsoft Photos: File system error (-2147219196) where on page 2 Salvatore Besso writes:

      But I have to add more information. This morning I have tried all the Store apps that I have installed on this computer and there are many more with the same defect: It opens and then suddenly crashes. Following is the complete list of all apps that are crashing exactly like Photos:

      1. Calculator
      2. Movies and TV
      3. Photos
      4. Feedback Hub
      5. Paint 3D
      6. 3D Viewer

      The error code -2147219196 is 80040904 in hex, which apparently means “Operation not supported”.

      HP Compaq 6000 Pro SFF PC / Windows 10 Pro / 22H2
      Intel®Core™2 “Wolfdale” E8400 3.0 GHz / 8.00 GB

      HP ProDesk 400 G5 SFF PC / Windows 11 Pro / 23H2
      Intel®Core™ “Coffee Lake” i3-8100 3.6 GHz / 16.00 GB
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      • #2633614

        I’ve followed this a bit further (I’m stopping for now):

        Complaints on reddit:
        Windows Photos app and Calculator stopped working. File System Error (-2147219196).

        On Feedback Hub:
        Windows 10 suddenly won’t open after updating: Photos, Calculator, Feedback Hub, etc. (Jan 23rd 2024)-(Most likely the cause could be the Intel 2 Core CPU and/or 64-Bit)

        Here Matthew Jones writes:
        If you input “Get-AppxPackage Microsoft.VCLibs.140.0* | Remove-AppxPackage” in PowerShell then you’ll see that VCLibs are dependencies for most of the apps that people say no longer work.

        He shows a newer version Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00_14.0.33321.0_* than what powershell on my system:

        Get-AppxPackage Microsoft.VCLibs.140.0*|select InstallLocation
        
        InstallLocation
        —————
        C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00_14.0.27323.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
        C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00_14.0.30704.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
        C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00.UWPDesktop_14.0.30704.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
        C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00_14.0.32530.0_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
        C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00.UWPDesktop_14.0.32530.0_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
        C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00_14.0.32530.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
        C:\Program Files\WindowsApps\Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00.UWPDesktop_14.0.32530.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe

        google[sse4.2 instruction set] says:
        SSE4. 2 is an updated version of the Streaming SIMD Extensions 4 (SSE) CPU instruction set. Nowadays, all modern CPUs fully support this instruction set since it was already introduced in 2008 (Intel) / 2011 (AMD).

        I came across these using google[sse4.2 instruction set download]:

        [Arnold] [MtoA] How to check if your processor supports SSE4.2
        Use sysinternals coreinfo -f

        SSE4.2 fix (help for old CPU without this instruction)

        Which uses Intel® Software Development Emulator:

        Intel® SDE Current Version 9.33 Released on January 07, 2024 DOWNLOAD

        The documentation from the download sde-external-9.33.0-2024-01-07-win.tar.xz\sde-external-9.33.0-2024-01-07-win\doc\getting_started.html says:

        Intel® SDE is application level binary instrumentation based emulator.
        Running Intel® SDE on applications is of the following pattern:
        % <path-to-kit>/sde [sde args] — user-application [app args]

        HP Compaq 6000 Pro SFF PC / Windows 10 Pro / 22H2
        Intel®Core™2 “Wolfdale” E8400 3.0 GHz / 8.00 GB

        HP ProDesk 400 G5 SFF PC / Windows 11 Pro / 23H2
        Intel®Core™ “Coffee Lake” i3-8100 3.6 GHz / 16.00 GB
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      • #2633744

        I beg to disagree with this statement “The Core 2 line first turned up in 2006 and, while not on the list of officially supported processors for Windows 10, the processor had more than enough oomph for many productivity tasks, until now.”

        I have LONG ago retired a 2006 computer.  Come on people, lets get real.

        Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher

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      • #2634322

        Easy solution! Just install these two packages from the online Microsoft Store:
        Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 UWP Desktop Runtime Package
        Microsoft Visual C++ 2015 UWP Runtime Package

        These all have DLLs with File version: 14.39.33519.0

        HP Compaq 6000 Pro SFF PC / Windows 10 Pro / 22H2
        Intel®Core™2 “Wolfdale” E8400 3.0 GHz / 8.00 GB

        HP ProDesk 400 G5 SFF PC / Windows 11 Pro / 23H2
        Intel®Core™ “Coffee Lake” i3-8100 3.6 GHz / 16.00 GB
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        • #2634329

          @EyesOnWindows

          I had version 14.0.33321.0 of the library and the desktop runtime installed by the Microsoft Store installer back on January 25th as part of its’ updating of three UWP apps on my machines. Never had a problem with using the Store to keep the UWP apps updated either. Updates are normally released only during the week (Monday-Friday), as I’ve never been offered updates on weekends unless an update was released late Friday and I scanned for updates with the Store on Friday before the app update was released. That’s why I do a scan on Saturday mornings, as a “just in case” measure. I also don’t remember ever getting an update on most major US holidays, either.

          Based upon the version number you say exists at your provided links, looks like I might get those two installed this coming week if any of my installed UWP apps need them. Thanks for the heads up!

          • #2634337

            If any of your UWP apps fail to start these packages will fix that.

            HP Compaq 6000 Pro SFF PC / Windows 10 Pro / 22H2
            Intel®Core™2 “Wolfdale” E8400 3.0 GHz / 8.00 GB

            HP ProDesk 400 G5 SFF PC / Windows 11 Pro / 23H2
            Intel®Core™ “Coffee Lake” i3-8100 3.6 GHz / 16.00 GB
            • #2634338

              I would sure hope so!  👍

              BUT, I’m also running fairly “new” hardware, an i3-9100 in one machine and an i5-9500 in another machine.

    • #2634121

      Is it my imagination or has there been a major change to the Windows update process beginning in December? And by change I don’t mean in a good way!!

      I am responsible for updating five Win 10 boxes…all older Win 7 upgraded to Win 10. Each of these boxes current as of Nov updates with no update issues at that point. Beginning with December updates I’ve been plagued with numerous update “anomalies” on all five boxes.

      Issues include:

      — “Check for updates” reporting “up to date” even though clearly not so per WinVer W10 Build check.

      — “Check for updates” searching for hours. Sometimes timing out without returning any results/information at all.

      — Updates downloading but refusing to install — hanging at 5%. Manual install from catalog successful.

      — Updates installing to “Pending Restart” stage, but restart hangs requiring forced shutdown and restart. Install ultimately successful per WinVer check but no record in Update History.

      So far this month only one box has updated in the expected, “normal” manner. The other 4 impacted by the above issues. This can’t be a coincidence! Perhaps it’s time for M$ to start transitioning us toward W10 EOL!

      • #2634168

        Is it my imagination or has there been a major change to the Windows update process beginning in December?…So far this month only one box has updated in the expected, “normal” manner…

        Hi KWGuy:

        I have a Win 10 OS and often see an early “Restart Now” prompt pop up in my system tray when Windows Update delivers a .NET Framework update with my other my Patch Tuesday updates (see the attached image from 16-Jan-2024) but that’s been happening for several months now – see TechTango’s 02-Oct-2023 post # 2591028 about early “Restart Now” prompts in bsfinkel’s Where is Windows Update?. Before I click “Restart Now” I’ve just gotten in the habit of checking Windows Update (Settings | Update & Security | Windows Update) and confirming that all my updates that require a restart have a status of “Pending Restart” before I actually restart my system.

        Some of my updates, especially the monthly cumulative Quality Updates that include a bundled Servicing Stack Update (SSU), appear to hang for a few minutes while downloading or installing (see my 16-Jan-2024 post # 2628138 in Susan Bradley’s Ready For the New Patching Year? for one example), but again, that’s nothing new and the problem always seems to resolve itself if I just leave Windows Update alone for a few minutes and allow it to finish whatever it’s doing.
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        • #2634172

          Thanks, Imacri!  Good info.  The premature “restart now” issue has not been a problem for me since I’ve learned to just wait until all updates have been installed.  My “hang on restart” problem may have been caused by the SSU issue that you describe, though after watching the processing circle spin round and round for 45 minutes I assumed a problem and did a forced restart.

          My biggest concern is getting erroneous “up to date” reports or, worse, NO reports when checking for updates.  Even successful reports are taking ages to load…if at all.  Since each of my 5 Win10 computers have experienced some combination of these issues beginning with the Dec updates, I’m suspicious that forces beyond my control are at play.

          Thanks again for your input.  It was helpful and appreciated!

           

          • #2634179

            Even successful reports are taking ages to load

            I’ve noticed that WU from MS takes forever to download and a long time to install. It’s not my internet or computers because everything else downloads fine but for some reason MS servers are extremely slow over the past few months.

            Don’t have the answer to your other problems but just verifying the speeds.

            Don't take yourself so seriously, no one else does 🙂
            All W10 Pro at 22H2,(2 Desktops, 1 Laptop).

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            • #2634732

              I have a desktop W10 Pro and a laptop W10 Office,  and both computers have SSD drives.  The desktop didn’t seem run any slower than in past months’ updates,  but failed to install KB5034441.  The laptop ran a lot slower during the installation phase of KB5034441,  and it seemed it got stuck at 45% installation,  so I stopped the installation.  Then when I restarted the computer,  it said “getting Windows ready,  don’t restart the computer”,  and it stayed that way for about 2 hours.   Then it finally restarted,  and to my surprise it turns out that it successfully installed  KB5034441 despite the fact I had stopped the installation at 45%.   Does anyone know why this would have occurred?

          • #2634182

            My biggest concern is getting erroneous “up to date” reports or, worse, NO reports when checking for updates. Even successful reports are taking ages to load…if at all.

            Hi KWGuy:

            Do you have any third-party Windows Update management tools (e.g., like the WUMgr utility mentioned on the blockapatch.com site) installed on any of these computers?  If any of these computers have a Win 10 Pro OS have you used the Local Group Policy Editor (gpedit.msc) to configure an advanced Windows Update setting(s)?

            Just a thought, but you might also want to check each computer to see if Metered Connection for any Ethernet or WiFi connection (e.g., Settings | Network & Internet | WiFi | Managed Known Networks | <select the active WiFi connection> | Properties | Metered Connection) and/or Allow Downloads from Other PCs (Settings | Update & Security | Delivery Optimization | Allow Downloads from Other PCs) is turned ON. I only have one Windows computer to update in my household and both those settings are OFF.

            EDIT:

            Don’t forget that there’s a Windows Update troubleshooter built in to Win 10 at Settings | Update & Security | Troubleshoot |  Additional Troubleshooters | Windows Update that might be able to diagnose and fix the problem.
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            Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3930 * Firefox v122.0.0 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.8.311-1.0.2249 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783

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            • #2634191

              Thanks!  I’ve tried WU Trouble shooter on the worst computer (i.e., the one that WU status shows “up to date” when it definitely is not) but no joy.  I’ll run it on the others.

              I do use WUshowhide utility, but only to hide those updates that I don’t want per Susan’s advice.

              As of today, I’ve finally succeeded in getting 4 of 5 boxes updated (tho with much pain, aggravation, and a few words I won’t repeat!).  No. 5 (the one that doesn’t know it is NOT up to date) is destined for a re-install of the OS just in case the WU process is corrupted.

              Maybe next month will be better.  Thanks again for all your advice.

               

               

               

               

               

            • #2634349

              @KWGuy

              Good to hear you’ve made progress with the update installations!

              I noticed that when I went to install the latest updates last week, I was getting a connection speed from the MS download server(s) of between 7 and 9 Mbps, and that’s with a 250 Mbps connection from my ISP. My normal download speed for these updates in the not too distant past (December and November) has been around 28-33 Mbps, so there have been some issues with their servers, methinks. It also took the services a while to get a connection going with the servers as well to start the actual download.

              Anyway, with respect to your other problems, of not being able to get the updates downloaded and subsequently installed (without a LOT of patience), have you tried the System File Checker and DISM yet? System File Checker checks all of your system files and DISM checks your files that deal with installation and maintenance of Windows, which includes Windows Update.

              From the sounds of things on your 5th machine, running them might help you get things back up to snuff update-wise, and they won’t take nearly as long as a full-on reinstall of Windows.

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            • #2634638

              System File Checker and DISM is a good idea I hadn’t thought of!  I’ll give that a try before I do an OS reinstall.   You’ve also confirmed my MS server suspicions.

              Thanks.

        • #2634173

          I saw much the same – early icons showing to reboot (so I check if all is ready first), and downloading or installing showing no progress, but finishing in a few minutes.  Note that computers with a primary SSD will typically finish most updates in a few minutes, but if you have a spinning hard drive an update taking almost an hour is possible.  When getting a yearly feature update (there won’t be any for windows 10 anymore) looking for the enablement package reduces the time of that from hours to minutes.

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    • #2634252

      I’ve installed the January updates on both my desktop PCs this weekend. Both machines run W10 version 22H2 but they’re of varying age and specs. Neither installed KB5034441 despite a retry, and with the other updates installed successfully I simply paused updates on both machines until March, by which time hopefully MS will have sorted things out.

    • #2634417

      I have finally updated for this month.

      All updates except for our one and only KB5034441 installed.

      Here is how I did it step by step for novices like myself.

      1. Unpaused and ran windows update. I let all updates finish even if the infamous restart now button shows up after the .net updates. KB5034441 failed with a download error.
      2. Ran wushowhide and hid KB5034441.
      3. Rebooted with the usual restart at 30% etc.
      4. Windows update said not all updates could be installed after reboot. Since I hid KB5034441 I pressed look for updates again and I got the usual “you are up to date” green message again.
      5. Paused updates again.
    • #2634469

      Is it my imagination or has there been a major change to the Windows update process beginning in December? And by change I don’t mean in a good way!!…

      As of today, I’ve finally succeeded in getting 4 of 5 boxes updated (tho with much pain, aggravation, and a few words I won’t repeat!). No. 5 (the one that doesn’t know it is NOT up to date) is destined for a re-install of the OS just in case the WU process is corrupted.

      Hi KWGuy:

      One other thought.  Are any of your machines affected by the DeviceSetupManager Event ID 131 errors being discussed in Tex265’s 18-Dec-2024 Event Viewer Metadata Entries – 131 & 201 due to Microsoft Registry Error?  These errors started on many Win 10 and Win 11 machines in late Nov / early Dec 2023 after the November 2023 Patch Tuesday updates were applied.

      These errors haven’t caused any noticeable issues on my own Win 10 machine so I haven’t taken any action, but some users posting in DriverJer’s 08-Dec-2024 topic Device Setup Manager Metadata staging failed Event ID 131 in the Microsoft Answers Windows 10 forum suspect these constant errors are wasting system resources and could be causing their system to become unstable. According to John Trembly_019’s 17-Dec-2024 post <here> in that MS Answers thread this error is being logged because a Windows registry entry (HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Device Metadata\DeviceMetaDataServiceURL) is currently pointing to an invalid URL for a Microsoft server (https: // devicemetadataservice.trafficmanager.net/dms/metadata.svc).

      If you have these DeviceSetupManager Event ID 131 errors on your machine(s) and suspect they’re causing a problem try the following workaround.

      1. Open your Advanced System Settings by going to Settings | System | About and select the Advanced System Settings link (under Related Settings). You can also open a Run dialog box and enter sysdm.cpl or simply search for “Advanced System Settings” from the search box on your taskbar.
      2. Choose the Hardware tab and click the Device Installation Settings button.
      3. For the question “Do you want to automatically download manufacturers’ apps and custom icons available for your devices?” select “No (your device might not work as expected)” and then click Save Changes.

      Win-10-Pro-v22H2-Advanced-System-Settings-Hardware-Device-Installation-23-Dec-2023

      Just note that setting your advanced Device Installation settings to “No” will prevent automatic driver installations and updates, but that should not be a problem unless you attach a new device to your system that wants to auto-update the driver.  Note that I have a Win 10 Pro OS and use my Local Group Policy Editor to prevent Windows Update from installing device drivers, and I only install BIOS firmware and hardware drivers recommended on the support page for my Dell computer model).
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      Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.3930 * Firefox v122.0.0 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.23110.3-1.1.23110.2 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.8.311-1.0.2249 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783

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      • #2634649

        Imacri..

        Haven’t seen any ID 131 errors…thankfully.  In fact, no error messages at all.  Just delay and aggravation.  I’m now becoming suspicious of MS server issues coupled with a possible OS/WU problem with my one computer.

        The worst problem to troubleshoot is one caused by a combination of multiple issues.

        Thanks for all your info.

    • #2635266

      Does my SSD have 3 or 4 partitions?

      Microsoft’s disk management tool indicates that the drive has three partitions but Macrium Reflect 7 indicates that it has four partitions. Three of the four partitions indicated by Macrium correspond, in terms of size, to the three partitions indicated by Microsoft’s disk management tool. The fourth partition indicated by Macrium has the following description: “2 – (None) Unformatted 16.0 MB 16.0 MB”.

      I do not plan to change the partitions in response to KB5034441, but I would like to know what that 16.0 MB partition is and why Microsoft’s disk management tool does not show it.

      Any thoughts?

      Thanks.

      • #2636312

        Microsoft’s disk management tool indicates that the drive has three partitions but Macrium Reflect 7 indicates that it has four partitions … The fourth partition indicated by Macrium has the following description: “2 – (None) Unformatted 16.0 MB 16.0 MB”.

        Hi 280park:

        I see the same grey 16 MB partition in Macrium Reflect Free …

        Macrium-Reflect-Free-v8_0_7783-16-MB-Reserved-MSR-Partition-EDITED-10-Feb-2024

        … that is not listed when I run the command Get-Volume in an elevated PowerShell console with Administrator rights.

        Win-10-Pro-v22H2-PowerShell-Get-Volume-Drive-C-07-Feb-2024

        In my Windows Disk Management that 16 MB partition is not listed as an “allocated” partition but if I maximize that window I can see 16 MB of “unallocated” disk space in the lower graph.

        Windows-Disk-Management-16-MB-Reserved-MSR-Partition-10-Feb-2024

        I believe that “extra” 16 MB partition on your hard drive is the Microsoft reserved partition (MSR) shown in the “Partition Layout” section of the MS Learn article UEFI/GPT-Based Hard Drive Partitions. From the “Microsoft Reserved Partition (MSR)” section of that article:

        “The size of the MSR is 16 MB.

        Add an MSR to each GPT drive to help with partition management. The MSR is a reserved partition that does not receive a partition ID. It cannot store user data.”

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    • #2636291

      Here is the travesty of this KB503441 Update.

      It downloaded along with the rest of the updates. Since it was a security update, it must have been in priority order to install first.

      It was stuck for an hour on 0% I gave it the reality that maybe something changed, and it would install but no go. Not only did it NOT install and was just stuck on 0% I could barely run WUSHOWHIDE. After the third try WUSHOWHIDE finally did its job and found the updates, and I selected to hide the update. It gave me a message that there were problems found and it hid the update. Meanwhile I prayed my computer would not crash. I returned to windows update and the KB503441 was no longer there, and the rest of the updates proceeded to install.

      This was VERY STRESSFUL. A consumer should not have to do this. Makes you want to toss a computer and find another way. Suggestions welcomed; however, we need a laptop or something, or whatever.

      Win 10 Home 22H2

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    • #2636295

      Macrium Reflect 7 indicates that it has four partitions

      You have 4 partitions. Disk management doesn’t ‘see” / list the 16MB partition.

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    • #2636333

      After hiding the update KB5034441 and it stated it was hidden in WUSHOWHIDE, after reboot it states it was installed on the computer. HOW CAN THAT BE?

      Win 10 Home 22H2

      • #2636342

        Maybe you were a bit late hiding it? kb5034441 installed on my Win.10 Home 22H2 laptop without any problem, but I remember it stayed on 0% install until the very end, and then it slipped in. Guess the counter didn’t work. But my understanding is that if it installed happily you’re good to go.

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        • #2636358

          Thanks that is what happened. It stalled at 0% and maybe the counter was wrong. It was very stressful to say the least. It took forever to get everything downloaded this time as well. I just wonder why this occurred. The only thing I can think of is that I have a huge hard drive with 1 TB of storage and 16 RAM.

          Win 10 Home 22H2

          • #2636360

            To let you know what happened with the updates:

            Windows update scans the computer for updates periodically (once a day or so). The updates it finds are kept in a cache and listed in the Windows Update queue. That list is static until Windows Update scans again.

            wushowhide scans on a real-time basis, it’s dynamic, so you see the current available updates. That could be different from the static cache that was available earlier. That also includes the updates you have hidden – they still show in the static WU queue.

            But what you see in the WU cache is what is downloaded/installed. So to get the current available updates, you have to clear the WU cache so it matches the current list wushowhide sees.

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            • #2636363

              PKCano, thanks for your reply, the update did install, and it is listed in the installed updates and in the uninstall update area as well. Somehow it got through. I checked windows updates by checking again after taking it off pause, and nothing there. Also, I checked WUSHOWHIDE and even though it told me it hid the item; it is not there. It is definitely installed. It took forever, a total of over an hour on 0% and I did not hide it right away, maybe that is the reason, as I gave it a chance to install. It downloaded right away and then said installing and stuck at 0%.

               

              Also my hard drive is 1 TB so my partition size must have been large enough to handle the update.

              Win 10 Home 22H2

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