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ISSUE 20.13.1 • 2023-03-28 By Susan Bradley March updates are ready. Windows 11 22H2, not so much. It’s time to install the updates for the March rele
[See the full post at: MS-DEFCON 4: Win11 22H2 not ready for prime time]
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
With Windows XP, Vista, 7 and 10, I used to ignore the toddler pool, but instead I dove straight into the deep end.
No more. For my Windows 11 machine I’ll trustingly wait for Susan to give the all clear.
I think I’ll stick a Susan Shortcut on my desktop. 
March updates for W10 22H2: To work around the “no-restart” issue with KB5023696 (You’re up to date) .. after a brief wait period I clicked on “Pause updates for 7 days”.
Then nothing much happened, but after awhile I was offered a “Resume updates” button, which I clicked on and everything proceeded as normal and the restart button popped up .. as normal. All done!
Here’s a slightly bizarre bug. As described in this Tweet by Will Dormann, following a very basic set of steps to edit, crop, and save an image results in — nothing. The saved file is the same as the original. That bug is certainly of concern, and it appears that Microsoft will be fixing it soon.
Same size, but not the same image.
Update for Microsoft Defender Antivirus antimalware platform – KB4052623 (Version 4.18.2302.7) This update is now available and appeared yesterday. I don’t know what it does and have not yet installed it. It does, however, appear in the Microsoft Update Catalog.
Hi geekdom:
I have a Win 10 Pro v22H2 OS and Windows Update automatically delivered this month’s KB4052623 (the monthly platform update for Microsoft Defender) today at the same time as my daily virus definition update. KB4052623 updated my Microsoft Defender platform from v4.18.2301.6 (rel. 14-Feb-2023) to the latest 4.18.2302.7 (rel. 27-Mar-2023), while my scan engine remains at v1.1.20100.6. Release notes for the monthly Microsoft Defender platform and scan engine updates are available in the MS support article Microsoft Defender Antivirus Security Intelligence and Product Updates.
I re-booted after KB4052623 was installed and this update doesn’t appear to be causing any problems on my Win 10 Pro v22H2 laptop. If I click the Windows Security icon in my system tray (or go to Settings | Update & Security | Windows Security | Open Windows Security) and choose Settings | About I now see:
As far as I know the Local Security Authority (LSA) and persistent restart alerts that Susan mentioned in today’s MS-DEFCON 4: Win11 22H2 Not Ready for Prime Time only affect Win 11 v21H2 and v22H2 users who install KB5007651. According to the 21-Mar-2023 BleepingComputer article Microsoft: Defender Update Behind Windows LSA Protection Warnings:
“This issue affects only ‘Update for Microsoft Defender Antivirus antimalware platform – KB5007651 (Version 1.0.2302.21002).’ All other Windows updates released on March 14, 2023 for affected platforms (KB5023706 and KB5023698), do not cause this issue.”
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Dell Inspiron 5584 * 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.2728 * Firefox v111.0.1 * Microsoft Defender v4.18.2302.7-1.1.20100.6 * Malwarebytes Premium v4.5.25.256-1.0.1957 * Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7279
KB4052623 installed while I wasn’t looking. It behaved nicely.
However, I’d rather see Microsoft fix another issue — where Snip and Sketch doesn’t recognize the desktop version of Outlook as a platform that one can send the image to for emailing. I kid you not — we upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 just because we loved the feature enhancements to the snipping tool in Windows 10. I am disappointed with the Snip and Sketch release in Windows 11 and do not feel that it is comparable. I’m hoping that one of these days Microsoft will fix that issue as well.
What feature do you feel is missing from Windows 11 Snipping Tool?
I don’t think anything is missing:
Windows 11 Snipping Tool can share to Outlook desktop contacts (tested).
Snip an image, mail using desktop Outlook (full blown 365 outlook desktop app)
It works for me.
Most posts in that thread are about Windows 10.
Share to mail supports the Windows 11 mail, not Outlook mail.
NOT TRUE:
(Third time I’ve said this now in this thread. Do I need to swear an oath?)
There is a workaround using several registry keys. It gets rid of the error, but it’s not recommended by Microsoft on its release health dashboard. I’d prefer to have Microsoft fix the issue rather than deal with a workaround.
Workarounds is what I do, for the past 25+ years. Some I figure out myself, some I find online. In this case there were only two registry DWORDS, and one was already in place, so I only needed to add the second and assign its value. And I get this:
I understand that you prefer not to do this, but for me it’s a regular thing. And for me, Windows 11 22H2 is a very good OS. I have yet to experience any of the quirks upon which you have elaborated.
No warnings above Local Security Authority Protection after you click on Device security then Core isolation?
Not seeing issues other than….
LSA warning in the security section
Unable to use snip and sketch effectively
Right mouse click takes two to three more clicks
Task manager access is better than it was, but still wonky
Now layer in today’s fixing of “usb printers”.
Sometimes it’s the little things. And keep in mind I’m considering everyone and not just me who bought good hardware with lots of resources and my machines are not using anything other than Fences software. Add to that most of the security advantages of Windows 11 won’t come into play until/unless you have the proper licensing. I’m not just writing for the uber geeks of Askwoody like yourself but for the average Windows user. I like boring software, what can I say.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
I have been using Win 11 Pro since the first test versions were released to the Insider Dev Channel. Those were in a VM since Microsoft changed the Dev channel to include features that won’t be in future releases. It has been my daily production OS since the day it was officially released. It has been stable and reliable. Are there some irritations with the UI? Aboslutely, yes and I’ve either adjusted my habits or found a work around. But overall it has been just fine for me.
--Joe
Just installed KB5023696 on one of my PCs – win10 pro, 22H2. No issues, no BSOD, prompted me for a restart. Bottom line nothing abnormal
Thanks for all your hard work, Susan!! Considering the issues with the March 2023 updates (SSD speeds, computers stuck on “updating” after restarting, and some Wi-Fi adapters not functioning correctly), it seems a little early to lower to DEFCON-4. These issues, while well documented elsewhere (BleepingComputer, etc.), have not been addressed on the main AskWoody website.
Slow ssd has been reported on Windows 11 22h2 but again, in the reddit forums. On my deployed Windows 11 here at the office and the new laptop at home I’m not seeing it.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
Always look on the master patch list for issues. If there were I would specifically call them out. 10 has been quiet and well behaved.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
it looks like both RTM/21H2 & 22H2 versions of Windows 11 recently got their “preview” updates this Tuesday morning March 28 after 10am pacific local time:
KB5023778 (build 22621.1485)
https://support.microsoft.com/help/5023778
KB5023774 (build 22000.1761)
https://support.microsoft.com/help/5023774
note – these new preview updates seem to resolve some new issues with usb printers
This update addresses an issue that affects USB printers. The system classifies them as multimedia devices even though they are not.
Most likely you will get 22H2 for either win10 or win11. I was in the same situation as you when I bought a PC in December. I choose win10. I figured it will be supported until the fall of 2025. By then win11 should have “matured”.
It is unusual for me to have a problem updating my Win 10 22H2 Home, but yesterday after Susan said to update I started the download. Almost immediately within say 5 minutes it showed You are up to date. That sounded too quick so I reopened Win Update and it showed Downloading 0% complete.
My Ethernet Status was showing downloading at an extremely slow rate, like a few MB per hour. Again after a few minutes Win Upd again showed You are up to date. Reopened Win Upd and still downloading 0% complete. This went on for several hours. I did notice Delivery Optimization had been turned on by the update as I NEVER have that on as I do not want who knows what worldly PC passing stuff to my PC. I turned that off and still no change to horrible download speed (all other stuff on PC downloading quickly).
So I figured it was just MS overwhelmed and would try next day.
Today same thing. Out of desperation I finally decided to risk a Restart in the middle of a download. And, BOOM, everything started working. Downloaded 750 MB quickly and started install. Very weird.
Win Upd also installed a printer driver update. So maybe that had something to do with it.
See #post-2547326 above.
Mine was a slightly different manifestation of the same problem as mine started normally but then went into that false up to date.
Another different manifestation on my other Win 10 22H2 Home was that it started normally but instead of going into an up to date loop it just immediately gave me an errror with a retry button. Again I fixed it with a restart.
So whatever the cause is I feel sorry for people not using AskWoody as those people probably have no idea why their PC won’t update but pretends to be updated.
Ok I now updated 2 PCs both win10 22h2 via KB5023696. Absolutely no issues. No BSODs, presented request to reset after installation and PCs work fine.
Search in general tends to just break after time, not necessarily a direct impact from any specific update.
Susan Bradley Patch Lady/Prudent patcher
I am Win10/Pro, 22H2 on two laptops.
KB5023696 CU for Windows installed, producing a RESTART button on both laptops.
KB5024670 CU for .NET 6.0.15 installed, producing a RESTART button on one laptop and NOT producing a RESTART button on the other one, but it IS installed according to Apps & Features, Control Panel>Programs and Features, and Update History.
producing a RESTART button on one laptop and NOT producing a RESTART button on the other one
Probably one PC was running an app that used .NET files so required a restart to free and updates files while and the other PC didn’t not.
We only had 1 issue with the March updates and that was a win10 system which was waaay out of date. Lost her HP USB printer but reinstall of printer software fixed that.
Updated 5 windows 11 systems with no issues running eset, the LSA warning on one that uses windows defender but just left the warning for now. Haven’t had any reports of issues with the others that do their own updating. Note none have start all or any of those type programs.
So not all smooth sailing on Win 10.
For most including me (I am using WUmgr) it was smooth sailing.
Update problems are unique to each Windows OS configuration, using 3rd party hacking tools, software running in the background (you should disable A/V app prior to installing updates, unless you don’t trust Microsoft that may add malware to updates)..
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