Thunderbird catches Font STD: it changes font after pasting external text.

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Yes, it does that. It has been doing that for more than a month, and I have not updated the software or done anything to change how it works.

For example, after having succeeded, as reported here earlier, with much fiddling, to get the font size right, now when I paste some text copied from somewhere else and then continue typing, the new text comes out in the size of the font of the pasted bit.

More than that: if the pasted bit letters are in a different color (say red, instead of black) what I type afterwards comes out in red. And if the pasted bit has also a color background, let’s say yellow, then everything I type after that comes on a yellow background.

It does not matter if I continue typing right after the pasted bit, or I leave a double space, or insert a blank line. It is relentless.

This happened last week, when I emailed someone asking questions about a new contract I had to sign and he answered placing his replies next to my questions, in red on a yellow background.

T-Bird: the interesting email client that makes life interesting.

(Did I tell you how much I hate T-Bird?)

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OscarCP wrote:

(Did I tell you how much I hate T-Bird?)

Change to some other Mail app.
Exp. Edison Mail

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Alex wrote: “Change to some other Mail app.”

Thanks for the advice, but they are all going to have something weird, that’s why I am staying put with T-Bird.

Even if it is a hate-hate relationship: “Better the devil you know than, etc.”

Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
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Have you tried Right Click to paste the text using the “Paste without formatting” option?

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I also have a Mac and I tried several times to install Thunderbird with many glitches and finally gave up.  I have Protonmail and another email and go directly to them via the web.  There are differing opinions on whether web based or email client based versions are more secure.  When I had Gmail (no longer) I was accustomed to going there via the web so this is nothing new for me.

Maybe you might want to rethink your decision to use an email client?  Your emails would remain on the web either way.

I am not a big email user so maybe my solution would not be practical for you.  I feel your frustration and just wanted to suggest maybe it would be freeing for you to ditch Thunderbird and go direct.

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Yes, it does that, and it is annoying.

1 – After (behind) the colored text, click on the color-selector and change it to black (at the bottom-right corner).
2 – Before (assumes that you know that the paste-in is colored) the paste, do a new line; then paste the insert before the new line.

“(Did I tell you how much I hate T-Bird?)”
– A couple or 60 times, yes.

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PaulK, Thanks for you willingness to help.

I should have, but now I realize I did not mention it before: yesterday I did both things you are recommending when answering that email and encountering this problem.

No. (2) did not help; having to do No. (1) was annoying, to say the list. So I still had the yellow background in the text I wrote myself.

Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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Hmmm.
Can you change the background color by using that ‘other’ little color square – the one that shows as white (‘under’ the red one) in the previous graphic?

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I tried that, it did not work.

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MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
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TB is accepting the formatting of the pasted text. This is expected.

In Windows you can “paste as plain text”. Don’t know if you can do that in fruit.

cheers, Paul

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As far as I know, yes you can. But not with T-Bird, because this is an specialty of T-Bird. The Apple default email client, called “Mail” does not have this problem at all.

But it has others, and that is why I prefer not to use it.

Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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Mac OS X

Thunderbird:

Edit menu and context menu:
“Paste Without Formatting“.

Hotkey: ⇧⌘V (Shift+Command+V).

Pasting from Clipboard (without tears)

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b: I don’t have the options you mention in the menus of my version of T-Bird for the Mac, but I just tried your recommended shortcut and it worked!

The only problem with this is that, as intended, this will paste text unformatted and, sometimes, I need to copy text with the format it came in, as it can be relevant to the message I intend to send. The work around is to take a screen shot, trim it and then attach the relevant part, which is not the handiest thing to do, precisely.

But in many cases this shortcut should work for me.

Thank you!

Ex-Windows user (Win. 98, XP, 7); since mid-2017 using also macOS. Presently on Monterey 12.15 & sometimes running also Linux (Mint).

MacBook Pro circa mid-2015, 15" display, with 16GB 1600 GHz DDR3 RAM, 1 TB SSD, a Haswell architecture Intel CPU with 4 Cores and 8 Threads model i7-4870HQ @ 2.50GHz.
Intel Iris Pro GPU with Built-in Bus, VRAM 1.5 GB, Display 2880 x 1800 Retina, 24-Bit color.
macOS Monterey; browsers: Waterfox "Current", Vivaldi and (now and then) Chrome; security apps. Intego AV

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