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The agreements between MS and others doesn’t constitute antitrust violations. That would come into play if MS had a 51% of ownership in each of the companies. Eventually, past the updates shutdown, there will be piece meal shutdowns until you will have no choices.

@ anonymous , MS can extend the life and support of anything they wish to. Nothing is TIED down to the now existing agreements with us as users.

To anonymous: Does not Micresoft have the right to extend any thing that they want to just by keystroke? i don’t have Kaby Lake or Ryzen but I have had use of Intell and AMD. I have noticed in reading different forums that the top CPU makers and their subsidiaries have joined in an agreement to NOT allow any windows 7, 8.1 to operate on any CPU’s after February 2017. The list of agreement takers just gets bigger. Just little bits at a time, picking away at our operating systems until we will have no choice but to go strictly with Windows 10. When that time comes, MS can pull out all stops and control us!!!

What is the percentage of home computer users compared to mass business users? What I am asking is the number of home units to the number of business units? Then you have each home has at least two units. Business’ might have one per employee and maybe not but the not does that have at least one at home.

stuartr77: Sorry for my untimely answer BUT I am using Win 7 SP 1 x64 and every program I am using is 2010. No access to your year of program. What used was excel 2010.

I had IE 10 and I checked the box and when IE 11 came along it was installed automatically. That is my take.

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@ BobbyB: When the Tech started on my desktop he, took a programed non commercial disk wiper. I completely wiped all from my 1 TB HHD. Then he took a second disc and placed my Win 7 SP 1 x64 on the hard drive. When finished he unplugged it from the wall socket and I brought it home. After I plugged everything back in, I started it up and windows came up ready to use. There was no blank screens or anything. When I opened update history it had five updates only. The windows update screen stated that I could not change settings (unless I was the Administrator), well the only sign-in for this computer is Admin (that is me).
I had trouble when BSOD appeared two days later. I fo9und that if I changed the Bios running from RAID to ACHI, windows came back up in reboot. Been using ACHI ever since. I just shut down Update and the first diagnostic only in service screen after I check for updates , screen them, install my choices, reboot, teh shut diag down and windows update shut down.

Sorry, PKCano, CH100 are right for Group A . I was assuming that you wanted Group B. I, evidently, have an odd setup of Win 7 SP 1 x 64 desktop. I am on Win 7 Group B forever. Listen to them as they are educated techs.

Our problem, now, is that win 7, 8.1 that use Intell chips and drivers will soon not be able to retrieve drivers or purchase chips (for a build). In my reading, I understand that Intell has struck an agreement with MS, that would mfg only drivers and chips for newest OS’S and newest software products. Any idea’s?

I installed net 4.6.2 a month ago. It’s listed in the installed programs. I’m not sure what it’s purpose is, but it is there and hopefully is working correctly. I turn on windows update once a day to gather any updates that MS sends to my computer. For the last month + I only have received ‘optional’ updates and I filter them. I, so far, don’t have any problems. Thanks to you both for your support.

Click on Windows button bottom left of start screen; find Accessories and click on it: After it opens go down the drop down list to Administrative Tools and down the drop down list to Services and click on it. When Services window opens go down the list until you find Diagnostics and double click on each to see if they are running. If not running click the drop down bar and choose Automatic then apply, then click the start bar and close. DO THIS ON EACH DIAG. THEN go down the list until you find Windows Update and click on
it and do the same thing that you did with the diagnostics. After completing that go to upper left of the Services window and click the minus (minimizing) the window to the bottom bar. Then you go windows update and click on it and when it opens you can adjust it to do what you want. When it says checking for updates you can (minimize) it to the bottom bar. If a problem comes up you click on the update on bottom bar and see what the problem is; then click on the services button on bottom bar and adjust as needed. Hope this is what you wanted. Group A leave the setting as they are now. Hope this is what you wanted

everyone gets the hiccups, most don’t last long. Never a problem!

I think that it would be prudent to go to MS catalog a see if there is a specific SP 1 to install onto Win 7 Ultimate `build 7600.  Not sure if it matters but it worth a try. And try to find it using Google Chrome.  I have better results.

Many thanks to MrJimPhelps & BobbyB.  Reading your take on the situation I have an idea to try to read the supplement disc, which is labeled Software.  The Win 7 I am opersting from is the same as is on the discs 1 thru 4.  The professional tech who cleaned the hhd and reinstalled win 7 sp 1 x 64, did an excellent job (cost $79.00) and took about one hour.  Came home with win 7 bare and had to add updates.  In matter of one hour, the download was 214 updates. I started from the newst to the oldest and weeded out the ones with telemetry.  It took about one hour to do that (had a list).  I started install on an over night agenda.  Next day 7 am it was completely done (Feb.8).  I have been adding and subtracting updates since. Am now up to date and check every day (turning on/shutting off updates every time. I finally (about Feb 12) got update tab to stay permanently on “check for update but let me choose whether to download them and install”.  I am keeping all the advice you both have given me (on hard copy) for use.  Thanks again

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Thanks for the advice but I have 2 portable hard drives that are large enough. am using one of them. I have my personal files on it and a copy of my existing windows 7 sp 1 x 64 Home Premium.  I think that my W 7 is the same as what is on the disks. The build number and the OEM number is the same as the one that came with this unit. I am going to try windows explorer and see what is on each disc.  They are numbered but an inquiry of HP yielded nothing as to the content that was that old.