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AskWoody PlusHi Paul,
On my mother’s 8.1 machine I’ve removed all the AV programs I tried. She tends to get upset with pop-ups she doesn’t understand.
So, I set her up with defender, but it has to me manually updated all the time.
Can you please point me (us… Moonbear) to the update script, plus a simple install demo?
Thank you,
Gary“So shines a good deed in a weary world.” - Willy Wonka
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AskWoody PlusHi Paul.
It looks like you won.
I’d go the cheap modem, you only need a connection and it’s DOCSIS 3.1.
That pushed me over the edge. Plain and simple reply.
An AC1700 will give you plenty of wifi for your phone / guests so a refurb or new ASUS seems to fit the bill.
Hats off to you. The AC1700 looked pretty good to me too.
Thanks again for your help. That’s rescue number 2. I’ll owe you soon lol
Best regards,
Gary“So shines a good deed in a weary world.” - Willy Wonka
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GLingner
AskWoody PlusThanks for the confidence boost.
As I might be getting the modem and router tonight this really helps.“So shines a good deed in a weary world.” - Willy Wonka
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GLingner
AskWoody PlusThanks John. I couldn’t agree more on both points.
Thanks for the feedback.
Gary“So shines a good deed in a weary world.” - Willy Wonka
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AskWoody PlusThanks Billyjoy,
I saw plenty of those multi piece setups. Is there really a point?
Thanks for your thoughts. It looks like I might go with the cheaper end of the spectrum just to get up and running. Then I have another year to get one of those nifty $450 jobs. 😉
Thanks,
Gary“So shines a good deed in a weary world.” - Willy Wonka
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AskWoody PlusThanks for the heads up on the software sites.
Since time is running out I’ll get a better router later and play. 🙂Thanks for the reply,
Gary“So shines a good deed in a weary world.” - Willy Wonka
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AskWoody PlusTo Anonymous,
I might hang out at https://www.snbforums.com/ just because. Lots of info.And getting a combo just made me itchy.
Thanks for all the input,
Gary“So shines a good deed in a weary world.” - Willy Wonka
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AskWoody PlusYeah. My bad on spacing out the VoIP end. That’s embarrassing. :/
But your reply helped a lot. Also, the useful trivia department thanks you for doing the math to come up with the $4,400 amount. Shocking. That’s new toys!
Just imaging how much we would have saved had we only signed up for internet?
No, you can’t make me do that math. 🙂“So shines a good deed in a weary world.” - Willy Wonka
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AskWoody PlusThanks dg1261,
I owe you an apology as I spaced out mentioning that I VoIP from a 3rd party provider.
My research skills need honing because I didn’t check out Ooma.All of your reply was very helpful and I got quite an education. Thank you.
Gary“So shines a good deed in a weary world.” - Willy Wonka
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AskWoody PlusHey JohnW,
I called Comcast last night to get prices of modems as their website is suspiciously missing this vital link in the chain to ownership.
When I pressed the issue I was told that I was the best customer they have (brap – really now! Free service then.) and informed that, “Sorry, we do not sell modems or hardware. Please go to Walmart or BestBuy and purchase what you like.”
I’m still laughing. This was rich.
All your input is great. Esp. the guest network setup. Thanks for taking the time.
Regards,
Gary“So shines a good deed in a weary world.” - Willy Wonka
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AskWoody PlusThanks bbearren.
This is very intriguing. I might go this way if shipping times are an issue.
Regards,
Gary“So shines a good deed in a weary world.” - Willy Wonka
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AskWoody PlusLots of good suggestions here!
And thanks for catching my VoIP blunder, also the great info.Something tells me a refurbished / “renewed” router would be bad thing?
$6.00/mo for ooma. I might be changing VoIP carriers 🙂
I checked the Comcast approved list and unless told otherwise I think I have my choices. Though my head is still spinnin’ 🙂
Flashing… I’ve done that on my old Xyxel routers. Painless.
Modems: (In the order I might go)
ARRIS SB8200 | Model number: SB8200 $122.99
Netgear CM600 $99.99
Motorola MB8600 | Model number: MB8600 $58.99Routers: (confusion so no real order) Refurb = bad or OK? (Not trying to be cheap, I promise.)
ASUS Wireless-AC1700 $89.99
Netgear Nighthawk AC2100 $109.00
ASUS RT-AX58U (RT-AX3000) $179.00 (OR Refurb $140.00)
ASUS RT-AC66U $59.99 — refurb —
Netgear Nighthawk (R6700) AC1750 $86.12
Netgear AC1600 $75.58 (OR refurb $49.99)
ASUS dualband ac1750 $64.99 — Refurb —
Cisco Small Business RV130W $165.90Again, thank you all for your input and helping pick the winners. Everyone’s been so helpful.
“So shines a good deed in a weary world.” - Willy Wonka
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GLingner
AskWoody PlusWow. 🙂
It seems I forgot to tick the box to inform me of replies.
I’ve been waiting days on a reply and now I have a lot to read. Thanks to everyone!A little update, I did forgot to mention that I do have VoIP through a company called “phone.com” Please take that as a suggestion, they’re very cool. For $14 a month they sent me a tiny Cisco router(?) that handles my land line. It takes up a DSL port and works great.
My reason for wanting VoIP on the modem was as a fallback. So, that can come off of the list.
See, told you I was stressed LOL How could I forget that? (embarrassed face)FYI: I’ll probably never go over 25 Mbps. I’m trying to keep my monthly bill around $30 for internet. Not to be cheap, but I got a royal thrashing when AT&T started punishing me because I didn’t want to pay $115/mo for the 6 channels I watched and “cut the cord”. First the VoIP cost was doubled, when I canceled VoIP my internet cost was doubled. So, Comcast came on board. AT&T is mean! Being nice here.
I’ll shoot back a reply after I look at all the great suggestions to get a thumbs up or down from the group.
Thanks to everyone for your input and help.
Gary“So shines a good deed in a weary world.” - Willy Wonka
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AskWoody PlusHi Charlie,
Out of curiosity have you clicked the link on 8/9/2020 View update history to see if anything got broken or didn’t update properly? (This might need a deeper dive)
Also, what anti-virus / firewall are you using?
Your AV might have gotten updated around the 9th and doesn’t know to let windows update. That happened to me with Avast.Good luck with that. Maybe someone who knows more than me will have an answer.
Gary
“So shines a good deed in a weary world.” - Willy Wonka
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AskWoody PlusPaul made me think of something…
Is that the same PC where you ran the test in Ubuntu?
Is there any chance that you are using two network interfaces? As in, one for windows and the other for Ubuntu?
Also looking forward to your answer to Paul.
Cheers (stolen from Paul)
Gary“So shines a good deed in a weary world.” - Willy Wonka
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