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AskWoody PlusAlso issue on my end from about a half hour ago.ย Black search screen.
SearchUI.exe showing “suspended” and “disabled”
Suspended is probably nothing to worry about … it just means it’s not active. Even on my system where search is blank, when I open the blank box, the status changes from ‘suspended’ to ‘running’
The ‘disabled’ is under UAC virtualization … and there are tons of disabled services. I’m pretty sure that’s normal.
Even on my system where the search box IS working, the default state of searchui is ‘suspended’ and ‘disabled.’ So, I don’t think that’s the issue ๐
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AskWoody PlusHere is one thing I just realized:
On my system where search is still working ‘as expected,’ the build number was updated to 2020.02.04.6238073 shortly after booting up at around 5:30 a.m. (Eastern) this morning.
The system where the search box is blank, also booted up at the same time, was still at version 2020.02.04.6238049 when the search box stopped responding.
Note though, that BOTH systems seemed fine from about 5:30 a.m. until 5:55 a.m. or so.
(Cross posting this at https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/is-microsoft-messing-with-your-win10-search-box/)
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AskWoody PlusHere is one thing I just realized:
On my system where search is still working ‘as expected,’ the build number was updated to 2020.02.04.6238073 shortly after booting up at around 5:30 a.m. (Eastern) this morning.
The system where the search box is blank, also booted up at the same time, was still at version 2020.02.04.6238049 when the search box stopped responding.
Note though, that BOTH systems seemed fine from about 5:30 a.m. until 5:55 a.m. or so.
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AskWoody PlusYou have good reason to be cautious. Disabling Bing in the Search bar triggered an obscure bug in one of the cumulative updates awhile back.
Exactly. Trying to exercise patience. But boy, this is a biggie. A) We now know MS can push silent updates *at least* to the search ‘app,’ leading toย B) Search is apperantly and app, and C) Even local search (at least from the search bar) seems to need a way to phone home.
Honestly a bit more than just a tad concerning …
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AskWoody PlusThe blank Windows Search box seems pretty widespread:
https://twitter.com/search?q=Windows%20Search&src=typed_query&f=live
https://twitter.com/search?q=Search%20Broken&src=typed_query&f=live
One can only hope that a fix will be pushed as magically as it was broken …
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Here is the main Reddit thread. It’s worldwide.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/ez8gan/windows_10_search_bar_not_working_after/
A number of users are reporting that disabling Bing in the search bar resolves the issue:
https://www.howtogeek.com/224159/how-to-disable-bing-in-the-windows-10-start-menu/
I am personally a bit cautious about going this route until we know what the issue is, and how/why MS is updating search – concerned about the ‘cure’ being worse than the ‘disease’ in the long run since we have no idea what is actually at play yet.
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AskWoody PlusDo the Microsoft toggle switches on each of your computers differ for any settings and if so what settings?
I went through both of my Win10 systems … Cortana and Search settings are all configured identifically.
On one system, search is still ‘working.’ On my other system, it’s blank.
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AskWoody PlusThe blank Windows Search box seems pretty widespread:
https://twitter.com/search?q=Windows%20Search&src=typed_query&f=live
https://twitter.com/search?q=Search%20Broken&src=typed_query&f=live
One can only hope that a fix will be pushed as magically as it was broken …
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AskWoody PlusHere is the O&O ShutUp10 software:
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10This software combines Microsoft Windows 10 options into a handy package for easy toggle.
Ah, ok. Not a part of Windows. Feeling better that I had not missed something. Thank you for the clarification. (Obviously, I have not used O&O before …)
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AskWoody PlusJust as a FYI … both of the systems that I originally posted about now have a search box build number of 2020.02.03.6237949.
That’s four new builds that I know of that have been pushed out since I noticed this on Friday. What could possibly go wrong? ๐
Note … my build number is slightly different from the previous poster who had 2020.02.03.6237948. A minor difference, but also then yet another build!
EDIT … I spoke too soon! One of my computers is at … .6237949 the other is at … .6237948!
What the? ๐๐
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^^^^ I think we just found out what ‘could possibly go wrong…’ ๐ ๐
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AskWoody PlusOptions like this (and currently attempting to identify which were modified). Here is a sample:
How do you access those settings? I’ve never seen them before!
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AskWoody PlusFebruary 5, 2020 at 6:38 am in reply to: Search Bar Text Now Says ‘Start a web search’ not ‘Type here to search’ #2135075A friend just clean installed Windows 10 Pro 1909 (replacing Windows 7) and he doesn’t have a search bar at all !
My 1903 Pro has been updated to 2020.02.04.6238049 with ‘Type here to search’
See this thread: https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/is-microsoft-messing-with-your-win10-search-box/#post-2135059 …
Search bar windows are turning blank … you are not alone …
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AskWoody PlusBased on the Microsoft user options (Control Panel) selected, the Search Box will show different versions. After I used O&O ShutUp10 in a second profile, Search Box reflected a different version than initially.
What options are you referring to?
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AskWoody PlusI just rebooted and got a completely black Search status screen as well.
Momma don’ allow no Windows Searchin’ round here…
Rebooted and it’s still black. I guess you really can break Win10 if you Search too much…
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Wow, this is so disturbing. Only cold comfort is that it is clearly not ‘just me.’ I restarted searchui.exe and file explorer just to test … but now will just wait to see if something ‘magically’ fixes it.
This has gone from interesting/annoying to full blown disabling.
EDIT: Searching from within File Explorer still works … so this seems to be a display issue vs. an actual search issue. But wow …
So far, my otherย system (with ‘Start a web search’ as the display text) is still functioning normally.
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AskWoody PlusJust for those who are keeping score …
So far the text in the search box could be at least one of the following:
- Type here to search (vast majority, at least so it seems)
- Search the web and PC (at least one from the original post)
- Start your search (at least 1 confirmed with screenshot)
- Start a Web Search (at least 2 confirmed)
In and of itself, this really is odd. Of course I got stuck with the one that makes the least sense. Do people really start web searches from the Windows search bar? Maybe I’m wrong, but I just cannot imagine many people do …
Add on more variation to the possible ‘default text’ in the search box:
- Type here to searchย (vast majority, at least so it seems)
- Search the web and PCย (at least one from the original post)
- Start your search (at least 1 confirmed with screenshot)
- Start a Web Search (at least 3 confirmed)
- Search (at least one confirmed with screenshot, posted at https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/search-bar-text-now-says-start-a-web-search-not-type-here-to-search/#post-2135036)
Also, one of my computers has a new build this morning: 2020.02.04.6238073
And as I checked to see if the other computer had also been updated, THIS is what I was greeted with (going to reboot now, with hopes that will ‘solve’ it):
UPDATE: SEARCH IS GONE. Reboot did NOT fix this. Now what?!
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