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MrToad28
AskWoody LoungerSince Woody linked the strategy, I went ahead and implemented it…setting notepad as default for all scripts. If I have problems, I’ll report them here. Having read the comments, I’m having second thoughts. Any suggestions on reversing the process if there are problems?
Installing Linux to read email is a total non-starter for me. Way too much hassle.
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MrToad28
AskWoody LoungerJune 21, 2017 at 3:28 pm in reply to: Microsoft admits IE printing problems after installing the June security patches KB 4021558, KB 4022719, KB 4021558 #121546FWIW, I applied the June patches to 4 PC’s 2 Win7-64 Pro desktops and 2 Win7-64HomePrem laptops with no adverse impacts seen.
I never use IE, but I tested printing pages from firefox on 2 pc’s and had no problem. I don’t use Outlook…so no impact there.
This article http://windowsreport.com/kb4022719-bugs/ mentioned Install problems – error codes..I never saw that.
I used lot’s restore points and the 2 desktops are primarily used to test for problems.
YMMV.
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MrToad28
AskWoody LoungerJune 21, 2017 at 3:21 pm in reply to: Microsoft admits IE printing problems after installing the June security patches KB 4021558, KB 4022719, KB 4021558 #121539I haven’t seen it to be intrusive..because I just use the default settings. It’s concerning that they found it ineffective. Brinkman @ghacks was kinder https://www.ghacks.net/2017/01/09/cryptoprevent-8-windows-malware-prevention-software/ but stressed it should be supplemental.
The combination of Cryptopervent Ransomfree data backup and safe patching seems a better way to go than relying on any single measure.
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MrToad28
AskWoody LoungerJune 21, 2017 at 12:30 pm in reply to: Microsoft admits IE printing problems after installing the June security patches KB 4021558, KB 4022719, KB 4021558 #121523Because I share your concern about ransomware and doubt Microsoft is capable of providing reliable protection, I’ve installed CryptoPrevent to lock the doors and either Ransomfree or Malwarebytes anti-ransomeware each of which provides honeypot behavioral protection. Cryptoprevent for over a year and Ransonfree & MB-AR for a month..since W-cry. Only problem is that sometimes 5-10% Ransomfree won’t start with the PC and I either restart or run without it.
I’m running these on 8 windows 7 64 PC’s, so if you’re running Win10 YMMV.
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MrToad28
AskWoody LoungerJune 21, 2017 at 5:49 am in reply to: Microsoft admits IE printing problems after installing the June security patches KB 4021558, KB 4022719, KB 4021558 #121501Since I use Firefox or Chrome and never IE, would I then be at very low risk for this issue?
IOW, How common is the use IE construction in web pages?
I’m getting ready to travel and am weighing the risk of an update vs the security risk of delaying patching. I won’t be doing much printing while traveling.
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MrToad28
AskWoody LoungerHas Woody permanently shifted from Infoworld to Computerworld? I see nothing on the June patch on Infoworld patch management.
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MrToad28
AskWoody LoungerMicrosoft would probably like move to Software as a service SAAS model, [annual fees] and away from versioning as a way to solve the need for revenue and keep OS up to date. Users who have bought versions will resist this. Microsoft can’t just say, ‘s**ew em’ because of the ecosystem vulnerability.
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MrToad28
AskWoody Loungerf Firefox wants to make a comeback, they need to fix the memory leak problems, the bloat problems, the insane versioning scheme, make the UI look like it was meant for a computer and not a Comp Sci. UX University project, the constant breaking of extensions and themes,
I switched to Firefox ESR…which offers a stable UI..and is updated for security rather than cosmetic purposes…rarely breaks extensions, but might not be compatible with the latest versions of some extensions. Bottom line..it works the same over time and I don’t have to mess with it much.
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MrToad28
AskWoody LoungerWhy leave Chrome for the new Opera?
I primarily use Firefox…customizable and intuitive, but on battery it uses significant resources.
I had Opera on laptops for battery saving features and was looking forward to their free built-in VPN…until the Chinese bought Opera. Uninstalled on all devices. The company that bought Opera may be the most user friendly and have the best intentions, but if the government tells them to do something contrary to the users interest…they will do it, or else, methinks.1 user thanked author for this post.
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MrToad28
AskWoody LoungerFWIW I installed Rollup for .NET KB4019112 on 8 Win7 64 boxes and saw CPU use rise substantially. It was almost certainly attributable to that patch, since I install roll-ups one at a time with a restart and manual restore point in between and the .NET patches are last ones installed. Prior to the May 2017 patches, my approach to win updates as “let me know and I’ll decide” which was not causing excess CPU usage. When the .Net patch ran up CPU use, I switched to the more conservative, “Don’t check” strategy Woody recommended and the CPU overrun stopped.
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MrToad28
AskWoody LoungerPrior to the May patches…or more specifically the May .net patch, I wasn’t experiencing system drag, but after that .Net patch CPU cycles went way high…40-50% on several Win7-64 pc’s.
The primary culprit seems to be trusteninstaller.exe I stopped it and then switched to “Never check..” and that seems to have halted the CPU overrun.
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MrToad28
AskWoody LoungerMay I assume the same ‘Don’t install optional rollup PREVIEW patches,’ applies to May and future preview patches?
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MrToad28
AskWoody LoungerMay I assume the April recommendation not to install optional roll-up preview patches still stands?
I’m not keen on being an unpaid patch beta tester…
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MrToad28
AskWoody LoungerI would add the following cautious options:
If you have multiple similar PC’s with similar configurations, patch the least important one first it see if anything specific to your boxes doesn’t play well with the current patch.
Create one or more restore points before patching.
Apply major patches…the security roll-up and the .net roll-up separately and create a restore point in between.
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MrToad28
AskWoody LoungerPlease explain advantage of this “turn off automatic updates” method over “check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them” option.
I’ve never had an update install without my having initiated it using the “check for updates…let me choose” option. Am I missing something?
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