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AskWoody LoungerExcellent points, I agree.
I think that’s one of the issues with people reporting an issue with Win10.
You have a billion installs at this point, and mathematically in order to have something truly be “widespread”, you’re talking about millions (or tens of millions) of users. Problem is, the evidence just isn’t there.I know the jargon is easy to use, but it’s just not correct in this sense.
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AskWoody LoungerAgreed, but it should theoretically/hypothetically prevent other users with a similar hardware/software combination from getting nailed with a bad update. (Or so I hope.)
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AskWoody Lounger@Carl
That should work, yes. I’ve been using a 1903 USB thumb drive myself and it’s worked great and left me with an activated Win10.
@Seff
That would be my guess as well (GWX Control Panel). The machines I’ve upgraded were not running GWX CP so I would imagine that’s kicking in at some point and blocking the upgrade.1 user thanked author for this post.
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AskWoody LoungerHow are you planning on upgrading?
When I’ve upgraded from 7 to 10, I’ve ran setup.exe from the ISO for Win10 from within Win7.
Doing this, I have not had any issues regardless of the WU settings in Win7.One thing to mention is that depending on your ISO version and what version you want to end up with, you may want to be disconnected from the internet during the upgrade. I’ve used the 1903 ISO, and being offline obviously it installs 1903. I’ve seen other people mention that if you have network connectivity during the 1903 upgrade, it will try to upgrade you to 1909 instead. Keep this in mind, again depending on what version you’re upgrading to and whether or not you want to go to something else.
Hope this answers your questions (again, depending on how you plan on upgrading). Running setup.exe off the ISO from within Win7 will give you a digital entitlement key and an activated copy of Win10.
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AskWoody LoungerNot excusing the behavior, but…
This is exactly why they rely on the telemetry data that users are so paranoid to opt out of.
Testing a patch vs a million hardware and software configurations is not something any company can do.Again, not excusing the behavior, just trying to put some reason and sense behind the practice.
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AskWoody LoungerMy 1903 machines just updated with no issues…I would imagine the 1909 updates are safe as well.
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AskWoody LoungerOpen a Command Prompt window (you can either search for CMD, or go to Run [Windows key+R] and type CMD) and enter the following:
sc query wuauserv
That will tell you if the service is running or stopped. It sounds like it’s stopped; if it is, type:
net start wuauserv
to start the Windows Update service again.Once it’s started again, you should be able to check for updates.
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AskWoody LoungerAnother Q for someone to ponder and test – does abbodi’s ESU tweak/script bypass the check and allow a non-ESU Win7 machine to install the updates.
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AskWoody LoungerFebruary 11, 2020 at 1:21 pm in reply to: MS-DEFCON 2: Make sure Windows is locked down in preparation for the Feb 2020 patches #2138668You’re making an assumption that x amount of Windows Updates cause problems, when in reality, this is not the case. Even here, when Woody posts about a patch issue, the exposure level and amount of confirmed cases is usually anecdotal at best (ie a few users on reddit).
It’s been this way in my experience going back to the 1703 days which is nearly 3 years ago now. The fact is, <1% of Windows 10 users have issues with updates when you account for 1 billion+ devices running the platform at this point in time.
I’m not necessarily buying those numbers of users. Why? My very 1st 10 machine put into service in September 2019 has *always* had annoying bugs which interrupt my work. And like many others this past week, Windows had broken its own search and indexing functions several times. I now place Microsoft in the same league of programmed mediocrity and obsolesence as Apple’s stupid churning of iOS releases, which is now approaching 5 years in length.
It looks every bit to me like Microsoft is trying to deepen its own role as a company practicing surveillance capitalism at the expense of a reliable software user experience.
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It’s elementary math.
The last report they gave was in mid-September of last year and they were over 900 million devices. Surely in the last several months including the push and EOL of 7, they’ve added another 100 million devices, which means 1 billion is a formality.Now, let’s address the amount of users who complain about Win10 issues in the largest public soundboard available, which is reddit. Yes, people complain of issues (and usually it’s driver-related, but I digress).
1% of 1,000,000,000 is 10,000,000.
Do you see 10 million new posts day to day on reddit for Win10 issues? I’ll admit I don’t monitor it that much, but I know that I don’t see that many posts. Hence my claim of <1% holds water.Again, this is elementary math here.
You claim you have (or had) issues. I had issues and didn’t particularly like Win10 RTM, but that was 5 years ago. Since 1703, I’ve had no issues, and in fact, have grown fond of the OS to the point that anything but 10 feels archaic to me at this point in time. (And I say that as someone who held on to Win2K with bloody stumps for fingers long after XP was released.)
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AskWoody LoungerFebruary 11, 2020 at 8:24 am in reply to: MS-DEFCON 2: Make sure Windows is locked down in preparation for the Feb 2020 patches #2138413 -
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AskWoody LoungerFebruary 10, 2020 at 4:36 pm in reply to: MS-DEFCON 2: Make sure Windows is locked down in preparation for the Feb 2020 patches #2138119You’re making an assumption that x amount of Windows Updates cause problems, when in reality, this is not the case. Even here, when Woody posts about a patch issue, the exposure level and amount of confirmed cases is usually anecdotal at best (ie a few users on reddit).
It’s been this way in my experience going back to the 1703 days which is nearly 3 years ago now. The fact is, <1% of Windows 10 users have issues with updates when you account for 1 billion+ devices running the platform at this point in time.
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AskWoody LoungerEvery Gordon Kelly article has the same title; nothing new to see here really.
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AskWoody LoungerJanuary 24, 2020 at 3:49 pm in reply to: Want to fix that black Stretched wallpaper in Windows 7? Buy Extended Security Updates #2100378Correct – was just posting that for those that don’t know.
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AskWoody LoungerJanuary 24, 2020 at 3:48 pm in reply to: MS-DEFCON 3: No rush, but you should get the January Patch Tuesday patches installed #2100374Thanks for the DEFCON change. 14 day deferral is putting a mini-pause on mine (until next Tuesday the 28th), so I’ll be waiting – though I don’t anticipate any issues. As you’ve stated, Woody, this month has been fairly benign, at least for Win10 users.
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AskWoody LoungerJanuary 24, 2020 at 2:51 pm in reply to: Want to fix that black Stretched wallpaper in Windows 7? Buy Extended Security Updates #2100327Having built testing VM’s and deciding not to waste product keys on them….
If you have an unlicensed copy, it also eventually defaults to a blank black wallpaper (and nags you about being unlicensed).
Coincidence? I’ll let you be the judge.1 user thanked author for this post.
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